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[Cheddarius]

RAM: I don't know the map yet. The current vote is 4 Rig Defense to 2 Patrol. When I post the map, then you can take your positions. Unless it's Patrol - then you will take position in cars, and I'll put the cars somewhere I like.
About constructions - if you're defending, I'll figure something out. Probably I'll give you refunds, or money that can only be spent on constructions.

RAM, I guess I'll give you $20 per item. But, looking at it now, the guns and such probably deserve that, and definitely the cool monsters - but the people? I mean, dwarfguy2 is just two flood fills and you're done. Still, $20 is fine.
Do you want $20 for each of the three carbines? That seems a bit excessive.

Red: His point being that he wants the game not to die, and to have turns faster instead of me taking a bunch of time every turn calculating because of one player's fondness for blowing stuff up.
You don't need to remake your character. Take out the perks and flaws that were deleted, change the perks and flaws that were changed. What's the balance? Do you have extra? Good for you, get a new perk, or lose a flaw. Do you have less? Oh well, buy some PP, or get a new flaw, or lose a perk. You don't need to remake your character at all.

[RandomNumberGenerator]

RAM, I guess I'll give you $20 per item. But, looking at it now, the guns and such probably deserve that, and definitely the cool monsters - but the people? I mean, dwarfguy2 is just two flood fills and you're done. Still, $20 is fine.
Do you want $20 for each of the three carbines? That seems a bit excessive.

Did you mean RNG?

And yeah, the people are real easy. That's why I usually try to add a little twist, like Othar's ponytail, or the bandit's bandana, or the military uniform accessories, but for characters like Dwarfguy and Acanthus, I don't have much to work with, so yeah, it really is just a couple (three, actually) floods.

The carbine was mostly copy-paste with a few tweaks, so $20-$30 for it would be fine.

[Cheddarius]

Heck, Red, I'll do it right now.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Here is how you were before:
0 PP
Gunner class: -5 PP: -75% damage for melee, +50% damage for guns
Slow: 5 PP: Double movement cost
Never Surrender: 8 PP: Cannot move unless health is at or below 1.5
Sniper class: -6 PP: +50% crit chance for sniper rifles, -40% damage for other weapons
Joy: -5 PP: Sniper rifles never miss
Sensei: -10 PP: Every sniper rifle hit is a headshot
Apricot: -6 PP: Every critical deals 4x damage, not 2x
Ghillie: -4 PP: Normal zombies will treat you as being twice as far away
Entranced: 5 PP: Unable to move for one turn after being hit
Noodle-armed: 4 PP: Cannot use snipers, machineguns, or shotguns.

I removed Noodle-armed, Entranced, and lowered Slow and Never Surrender PPs.
-13 PP
Gunner class: -5 PP: -75% damage for melee, +50% damage for guns
Slow: 3 PP: Double movement cost
Never Surrender: 6 PP: Cannot move unless health is at or below 1.5
Sniper class: -6 PP: +50% crit chance for sniper rifles, -40% damage for other weapons
Joy: -5 PP: Sniper rifles never miss
Sensei: -10 PP: Every sniper rifle hit is a headshot
Apricot: -6 PP: Every critical deals 4x damage, not 2x
Ghillie: -4 PP: Normal zombies will treat you as being twice as far away

Now, you have many options. Give up Sensei and Ghillie. Give up Apricot and Ghillie, then buy 3 PP. Get Slow, Lame, and Valiant, then buy 2 PP. Get Lame and Valiant, then give up Ghillie. It's easy to see how you can remove this PP debt.

Yes, I meant RNG.

[RedWarrior0]

@ched: Really, it's fairly easy to remake my character with similar stuff, so that's what I did.

[Cheddarius]

Yes. The problem, though, is that you omitted the costs for Sniper and Gunner. The cost is wrong.

Also, honestly, you don't need $170. You need $170 if you want to stay at your current level, that is, vastly stronger than most everyone else. Considering how much you've already spent, you might consider losing some perks and buying them later when others have had the chance to make themselves strong too.

[RedWarrior0]

First of all: I never had noodle armed.  You sure that was right?

I had Sensei, Joy, Apricot, Ghillie for -25 and Sniper and gunner made that -36.

I had 14 PP (10 + 4 bought), making it -22.
Camper, Coward, and Lone Wolf add 8, making it -14.
Slow(Gunner) and Never Surrender add 9, making it -5.
Valiant evens it out.

One problem: Slow is a name used by two flaws.

[Cheddarius]

I don't remember, since I think I deleted the log.
In any case, what is your new setup?

[RedWarrior0]

Edited previous post since it was halfway there already. I'll need Bandages in case of emergency, since I am immune to medics.

[Cheddarius]

Excellent.

[RandomNumberGenerator]

First of all: I never had noodle armed.  You sure that was right?

I had Sensei, Joy, Apricot, Ghillie for -25 and Sniper and gunner made that -36.

I had 14 PP (10 + 4 bought), making it -22.
Camper, Coward, and Lone Wolf add 8, making it -14.
Slow(Gunner) and Never Surrender add 9, making it -9.
Valiant evens it out.

Isn't Valiant only +5, not +9?

[RedWarrior0]

Yes, but before that is -5.

[411570N3]

Made it as copy-paste friendly as possible.

Spoiler: Status Post Format (click to show/hide)

411570N3: Mikhail Chen
Money: $30
Status: 3 HP
Powered Mobility Aids*
Scavenged Armour Plates*
Gauss Pistol*
Gauss Pistol*
Perks/Flaws: 0 PP
Gunner Class: -5 PP: -75% damage for melee, +50% damage for guns
Pistoleer Class: -3 PP: Double damage for pistols, -50% damage for others
Guns Akimbo: -6 PP: Half AP for firing pistols when dual-wielded

Spoiler: Useful GM-ing Info Post Format (click to show/hide)

[spoiler=411570N3:Mikhail Chen]Dual Gauss Pistols: 3 DP, 6-14 CR, 2 AP, +2xCr
Defence: 0.5
AP: 16

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[Cheddarius]

You have $1255. That cost is $250 (pistol) + $250 (pistol) + $450 (plates) + $200 (aids) + $160 (4 PP) = $1310.
In addition, I'm sure that, say, Cheeetar, zchris13, and Acanthus would appreciate a small part of that money.

[RAM]

but, but, where's the robot arm?!?

Was he supposed to have one?

Well, nobody asked for one if that is what you mean...

[Acanthus117]

I only want money if that's okay with Allstone.