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[Cheddarius]

You can post your stats, but I won't trawl the thread to find everyone's posts, so remembering it will be your job.
Scope does not work with pistols.
I might accept suggestions, but I really don't need any right now. Still, anything good will probably get money.
You can only do things to your character between rounds.

[411570N3]

Yeah, that was my main intention. I'll be the one trawling the thread for it anyway.
Since I'm bored at the moment, I guess I'll give making some items a shot.

Spoiler: Pistols (click to show/hide)

Pepperbox Pistol
Shoots a lot of bullets at once, but it's a pain to reload and the bullets are lower caliber. Initial shot costs 5AP, but subsequent shots are 1.5AP each, rounded up. 0.75 damage shots at a hit chance of 4-16, and a crit of 10.
$110
Subsequent shots are only 1AP: $100
Initial shot is only 4AP: $100
You instead fire 10 shots at once, at a cost of 5AP: $200

Revolver
A single action revolver. It fires 1.25 damage rounds at 5AP each. Each shot has a hit chance of 3-17 and a crit of 9-12. It's in a standard bore, so it can easily accept many kinds of ammunition, but changing them is a bit fiddly (3AP to change ammo type).
$175
Heavy Rounds (1.75 damage): $125
Shot Rounds (5 0.5 damage pellets, hit chance 5-15 and crit 10-10): $150
Finned Rounds (3-18 hit chance and crit 8-12): $150
Autorevolver (Shots take 1AP less): $175
Speed Loaders (Shots take 1AP less, changing ammo is a free action): $200

.45 Pistol
The 9mm's big brother. Much bigger brother. It fires 2 damage rounds at 5AP each, if you want to keep your wrist attached. You could fire it at 4AP, but it'd almost break your wrist every shot (self damage per shot). Each shot has a hit chance of 3-17, a crit of 9-12, and reduced penalties to armour.
$250
Less self damage: $50
Rapid shots are only 3AP: $100
Sabot discarding rounds (bullets penetrate small enemies and do extra damage to large ones). You are insane. :$200

.600 Nitro Express Revolver
Because you want to shoot tanks with your side-arm. Each shot is a monstrous 3 damage round that takes 6AP to fire. If you were out of your freaking mind, you could theoretically fire it at 4AP per shot. Y'know - if you enjoy the sound your shoulder makes when it's dislocated and relocated (large self damage). Each shot has a hit chance of 3-17, a crit of 9-12, and reduced penalties to armour.
$350
No self damage, but -1AP penalty per turn: $100
Rapid shots are only 3AP: $150
Depleted uranium penetrators. Because you want to shoot at battleships with your sidearm (bullets penetrate small enemies, do extra damage to large ones, set fire to any damaged enemies and eventually give them Gulf War Syndrome). : $250

Gyrojet Pistol
It fires a tiny, spinning rocket: just to make sure you don't miss. 1.25 damage shots at 4AP each, but each of them has a hit chance of 2-18 and a crit of 8-13.
$200
Extra Damage: $75
3AP Shots: $150
Hit chance of 2-19 and crit of 7-14: $300

Metalstorm Pistol
It fires by detonating small, shaped, specially sealed charges via electricity. In other words it fires bloody fast. 1 Damage shots at 2AP each. Each shot has a horrendous hit chance of 7-13 and a crit chance of 10-10. Each shot after the third gains a 0.25 damage bonus though.
$300
Damage bonus is 1, but occurs after the fourth shot: $150
Shots are 1AP: $200
You gain the ability to instead fire fifteen 2.5 damage shots in a single go at a cost of 5AP, but the weapon may not be used for a turn: $250

Very Pistol
A compact, cockpit optimised emergency signalling device. Or a little gun thing that fires a flaming thingo. Your choice. Fires a 0.5 damage shot for 6AP at an accuracy of 3-17 and a crit of 3-18. When it crits it sets the hit target on fire.
$200
5AP shots: $75
Extra accuracy: $100
Crit of 2-19: $200

Blank-loaded Pistol
It's a pistol loaded with blanks. Those can't do damage, can they?
Wait a second, I can fit my fist in this thing's barrel.
May only target adjacent enemies for 5 damage at a cost of 6AP at an accuracy rate of 2-18 and a crit rate of 4-16. Causes a 2AP penalty the turn after firing.
$500
A lack of sanity (You may fire the gun for 2AP a shot, but you take damage every shot and the AP penalty stacks per shot): $100
A further lack of sanity (+2.5 Damage, you take damage after every shot which stacks if you were firing at high speed): $100
Less sanity than Cthulhu's butler (+2.5 Damage, yet more self damage, all orthogonally adjacent units are stunned for a turn after firing, may only be taken after "A further lack of sanity"): $300

Spoiler: Shotguns (click to show/hide)

Combat Shotgun
Quite a bit more efficient than your old hunting shotgun. Also accepts lots of types of rounds, though changing them on the go will be a bit of a problem (3AP action). Each shot only produces 6 .75 damage pellets, but only takes 5AP. It has a 4-16 accuracy and a 9-10 crit.
$225
Slug rounds (changes to a single 3 damage shot with 3-17 accuracy): $100
Flechette rounds (changes to 15 0.5 damage pellets): $150
Dragon's breath rounds (changes to 0.5 damage pellets with 2-19 crit; crits ignite the target; does not crit further than 4 squares.): $200
Handy ammo slots (changing ammo type is a 1AP action, shots take 1AP less): $350

Gas-Driven Shotgun
All you need to know is that you don't have to pump it after each shot anymore. Each shot is 6 .75 damage pellets at a cost of 4AP. It has a 5-15 accuracy and a 9-10 crit.
$225
3 AP Shots: $100
Extra accuracy: $125
Double-barrel time (doubled number of pellets): $400

Sawn-Off Quadruple Barrel Breech-Loading Shotgun
Where... did the store get this thing? Fire up to four shots per turn at 2AP each. Each shot is 8 0.5 damage pellets. It has 7-13 accuracy and a 10-10 crit.
$300
Extra Damage: $125
Never miss enemies one square away: $150
Double-double-double barrels (Fire up to 8 shots a turn at 1AP each). You are insane. Why would you ever, ever need this? : $600

Spoiler: Submachine Guns (click to show/hide)

Thompson
The original submachine gun. Fires a bit slower, only able to pump out 7 shots a turn (1.4AP, rounded up), but each shot is a full 1 damage. It's also a bit more accurate, at 3-17 accuracy and 8-12 crit.
$250
1AP Shots: $150
Accuracy: $175
Damage: $200
Drum Mags (fire 10 shots at a cost of 5AP): $300

Skorpion
Neat little package with a folding stock. Good luck controlling it though, seeing as it barely weighs more than your standard milk carton. Fires 0.75 damage shots at 0.5AP each, rounded up. Has an accuracy of 7-14 and a 9-11 crit. You can unfold the stock for 5-15 accuracy at a cost of a -1AP per penalty each turn.
$300
Extra accuracy: $125
Extra damage: $150
0.25AP(!) Shots: ($300)

Spoiler: Perks & Flaws (click to show/hide)

Medic
Softhearted: +3PP: Cannot take other actions apart from healing if able to heal an ally below 75% health.

Brute
Personal Space: -5PP: Able to attack three surrounding orthogonally adjacent squares simultaneously if using a bladed weapon. Able to knock back enemies if using a bludgeoning weapon.
Charge: -4PP: Able to use a turn moving in a straight line until stopped. Any units encountered are attacked automatically and roll to not be pushed back. The unit that finally stops the player is attacked again at the end of the charge.
Rage: +3PP: Will focus on a single enemy until it is dead.
DIEDIEDIEDIEDIE: +3PP: Cannot have more than one target in a single turn.

Acrobat
Flips: -4PP: Can move two squares in a straight line, jumping over an enemy.
Whoops: -8PP: Has a chance to dodge attacks, which are then directed to another enemy adjacent to the attacker.
Mime: +4PP: Communication with other players and the shopkeeper may not be verbal.
Riddler: +4PP: Communication must be in riddles.

Pistoleer
Juggler: -8PP: -1AP for equipping pistols. Every pistol that was equipped at some point in a turn may be fired that turn, with AP spent counting  simultaneously on every pistol used.
Dodge This: -4PP: Increased hit and crit chance on adjacent units.
Trick Shots: -7PP: Missed shots are more likely to hit other targets and/or ricochet. Ricocheting shots may also hit targets.
What's Gun Safety?: +10PP: Small chance of trying to look down, scratch yourself with or blow into the barrel of your gun and pulling the trigger each turn, causing a critical shot on yourself.
Always Ready: +6PP: All unequipped pistols each have a small chance to fire in a random direction each turn.

Machinegunner
Gangsta Grip: -5PP: For one turn, you evenly spray bullets accross a small horizontal arc, being unable to miss as long as the bullets intersect with them on the horizontal plane.
Suppression: -4PP: You may spend a turn laying down suppressing fire. Enemies that were the line of fire some time during or at the end of their move take damage as if you had fired at them with a +2 accuracy bonus.
Lead River: -4PP: Enemies which you hit have increased AP costs for moving towards you for the next turn, depending on the amount of shots which hit.
Subtlety: +3PP If you are able, you must shoot at zombies every turn.
RAAARGH: +4PP: If you fire in a turn, you must spend all your AP for that turn firing.

Shotgunner
BANG: -4PP: When you hit an enemy, they have a chance of flying backwards depending on how much damage was done. Enemies which are knocked backwards take extra damage and take an AP penalty the next turn in order to get back up.
My Boomstick: -4PP: Enemies in melee range take extra damage. Enemies orthogonally adjacent take an AP penalty if you fire, to recover from being deaf.
Poor Penetration: +5PP: Enemies, on the turn they die, remain as obstacles for pellets for the entirety of the turn they die.
Red Smears: +5PP: There is a small chance for enemies you kill to be unlootable and give half as much money, depending on how much damage you did to them on the turn they died.

Sniper
Cold & Efficient: -8PP: If you kill an enemy with a single headshot, you may take a second shot on any enemy just behind the enemy you just killed.
Lone Wolf: +4PP: Will not fire sniper rifles when orthogonally adjacent to an ally.
Icy Bastard: +6PP: If an ally comes between you and an enemy, you will fire anyway, rolling to intentionally miss your ally.
Needlessly Polished Scope: +5PP: Every shot you make has a chance of making that enemy's target you. If the enemy can communicate, he will also have his allies attack you.
Camper: +8PP: You must spend a turn to set up before firing, and spend a turn packing up before moving after firing.

Spoiler: Other Items (click to show/hide)

Holster
You can choose one weapon which you can switch to at 1 less AP than it would normally cost.
$100

Mount
You can use 6AP to mount a weapon, greatly increasing its accuracy, but fixing it in place. Unmounting a weapon takes the same amount of AP.
$100

Silencer
Enemies are less likely to target or even notice you, depending on what weapon you are using, whilst reducing your damage. Lower damage weapons increase the effect of this item.
$100

I sort of pulled the stats out of nowhere, so they should probably be decided by cheddarius.

[RAM]

There must be some capacity to make a booze gun... Maybe a Molotov launcher?

[Cheddarius]

Hmmm. I must applaud your effort, but I'm not really looking for items or perks right now. The available niches are already filled; nobody's going to have the cash to afford more powerful weapons when people are fighting with pistols (these are cheap, but I'd roughly double or triple their cost in-game). In addition, a lot of the new weapons are creative, but they either just fill a different niche (Metalstorm Pistol = SMG, Blank = Knife) or are too complicated to use (don't want to calculate fire). More perks will just make people even more overpowered.

[Rolan7]

I really like a lot of those suggestions.  Riddler and Mime seem a bit silly (though I suppose that fits with the acrobat class).  I'd like to take that "Soft Hearted" perk for my medic, if it only applies when it is possible to reach the wounded target.  In this road battle, for example, I shouldn't lock up because someone in a different car is hurt.

I'm very impressed though.

Fakeedit: What's wrong with us being overpowered (:  I understand though.

[RedWarrior0]

I want Cold and Efficient. Especially if it stacks. But then I would have the [REDACTED].

[411570N3]

Yeah, I didn't put enough time into it to make it balanced. If you really wanted them I could make them more distinct, but there's no real need for them, so I won't.

[Cheddarius]

Softhearted: +3PP: Cannot take other actions apart from healing if able to heal an ally below 75% health.
So, if you're not in the same car, or not adjacent, you would be able to not heal.

You're right, though. Basically, shotgunners, brutes, snipers, machinegunners are crazy overpowered. They must not have anything. They are the enemy! CRUSH THEM! FOR THE EMPEROR!
...um. Sorry, it's a problem I have. I've been seeing a guy, but you know how it is.

The original idea was this: Eventually, everyone would be a sniper, since sniper rifles are better than pistols. Maybe some shotgunners or smg-ers to take out the zombie horde. Now, I think that's kind of dumb. You should be able to buy a crazy expensive pistol and be just as effective as a dude with a just as expensive rifle. It's the free market, baby. Also, magic. In any case, I think that it is good to have variety, and choices.

Anyway, new poll. Would you like all classes to be essentially equally feasible, or would you like some classes to be superior?
(Pssst! Everyone vote 1+1=2 in the new poll, it will make you super manly, unless you are female, in which case.... I'm a dude so I'm not really sure what females want? You will gain equal rights to men. And be rich. Is that sexist? Or the part before that? I don't know any more. Wait, making a blanket statement that all dudes want to be manly is probably sexist too? Okay, if you vote you will be super successful forever, you get to define your definition of success, so there)

Rolan, what do you like the most?

See, Red, that's the problem. Cold and Efficient would make you into basically the only player. Everyone else would be just pawns under your ludicrous face-exploding ability. I'd throw a massive wave at you and everyone would scream "Oh noooo" and their weapons would be futile. Then you'd mow down half the wave.

[RandomNumberGenerator]

(Pssst! Everyone vote 1+1=2 in the new poll, it will make you super manly, unless you are female, in which case.... I'm a dude so I'm not really sure what females want? You will gain equal rights to men. And be rich. Is that sexist? Or the part before that? I don't know any more. Wait, making a blanket statement that all dudes want to be manly is probably sexist too? Okay, if you vote you will be super successful forever, you get to define your definition of success, so there)

1+1 is 10, not 2. But there is no 10. 10 does end in 0 however...

We are talking about binary numbers, right?

[Cheddarius]

No, base 6.

Also, MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

[Tarran]

Also, MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Let me guess, at least two players died?

[RedWarrior0]

2+2=76. There is no other way.

[411570N3]

You could probably limit Cold and Efficient by making it only allow a second shot. Problem is, that sort of strays from the role of the sniper as a single target high damage output class. Instead, you could have cold and efficient allow you to take shots at 2/3 (or half or something) of normal AP cost as long as you spend the entire turn shooting at the one unit.
I might get bored again today, seeing as I'm getting a long weekend. We'll see.

[Cheddarius]

Snipers are already overpowered. Anything that makes them more powerful is broken, even if it doesn't make them that much more powerful.

Vote on the class poll (a few posts above in big bold text). Right now, anyone who votes has the power to decide it.

[Tarran]

Pfffft, hahahaha. Nice quick change of the poll.

I would like some classes to be superior, but make them harder to get.