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Re: Monster Defence (IT LIIIIIIIIIIVES Edition)
« Reply #675 on: April 25, 2010, 06:47:03 pm »

Hrm. I would have thought it would be assumed that you couldn't sell stuff, since it doesn't say you can, but all right.

I'll check on this tomorrow; if nobody claims their share of money, I'll divvy it up then.
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Re: Monster Defence (IT LIIIIIIIIIIVES Edition)
« Reply #676 on: April 25, 2010, 07:19:53 pm »

I think I'm ready to join this, next time it's possible (which I understand may be a while).

About character creation.  I see we start with a pistol and $100, and it looks like we also start with 10 PP to assign?

I'm also seeing that the medic class is rather broken, assuming you don't want to heal.  A "speedy" "medic" with "Alky" and "Internet Degree":
-4 -2 +5 +6 = 5 free PP. 
Although that's not so bad if you can only have one main-class (like medic and gunner).  Is that the case?
Just helping bugtest the system, of course, I don't actually plan to *do* such a thing.
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Re: Monster Defence (IT LIIIIIIIIIIVES Edition)
« Reply #677 on: April 25, 2010, 07:51:38 pm »

I think I'm ready to join this, next time it's possible (which I understand may be a while).

About character creation.  I see we start with a pistol and $100, and it looks like we also start with 10 PP to assign?

I'm also seeing that the medic class is rather broken, assuming you don't want to heal.  A "speedy" "medic" with "Alky" and "Internet Degree":
-4 -2 +5 +6 = 5 free PP. 
Although that's not so bad if you can only have one main-class (like medic and gunner).  Is that the case?
Just helping bugtest the system, of course, I don't actually plan to *do* such a thing.

Yeah, one main class only. 5 free PP is powerful, exempting that you can't take another class(some of which are very good) so I actually wouldn't say that medic was broken, since you limit future development for momentary gain. Then again, that might be worth while with the way people are dying...

Huh. Looking pack at the main page, I see perk points are $40... I thought they were $20. Damn. That means I need $400 to buy the Hero class...
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Re: Monster Defence (IT LIIIIIIIIIIVES Edition)
« Reply #678 on: April 25, 2010, 08:16:33 pm »

I give all money I have above $120 to Redwarrior0.
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Re: Monster Defence (IT LIIIIIIIIIIVES Edition)
« Reply #679 on: April 25, 2010, 08:35:13 pm »

Although that's not so bad if you can only have one main-class (like medic and gunner).  Is that the case?
Yes. Also, you don't have to take a class or even take perks at all if you don't want to.
It doesn't seem overpowered to me. Sure, you have some extra perk points. But people you heal could get slaughtered by monsters if they can't run away, and you have a chance of killing them. Actually, it's not that great even with extra PP. You may have a lot, but you can't really get anything good, unlike, say, a Machinegunner.
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Re: Monster Defence (IT LIIIIIIIIIIVES Edition)
« Reply #680 on: April 25, 2010, 08:41:33 pm »

Not certain exactly how much cash I have access to, but with the Haggler perk I think that I should be able to afford the Tank Perk from Brute.
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Re: Monster Defence (IT LIIIIIIIIIIVES Edition)
« Reply #681 on: April 25, 2010, 11:06:59 pm »

Although that's not so bad if you can only have one main-class (like medic and gunner).  Is that the case?
Yes. Also, you don't have to take a class or even take perks at all if you don't want to.
It doesn't seem overpowered to me. Sure, you have some extra perk points. But people you heal could get slaughtered by monsters if they can't run away, and you have a chance of killing them. Actually, it's not that great even with extra PP. You may have a lot, but you can't really get anything good, unlike, say, a Machinegunner.

Yeah, I was imagining a gunner or something tacking on that medic build just for the 5 PP, never planning to heal anyone.  I agree that it's not overpowered since you can't take a second class to spend those PP on.

I really enjoyed reading the skill and equipment lists, this looks like a fun little system!

I'd actually like to be a medic.  I like the "medipistol" concept, did you get that from Killing Floor?  (:  I was considering being a pistoleer but a team without a medic is just... wrong.  Particularly since only RAM has the "Valiant" penalty.

So how's this (I know I'm not in for a while yet, just checking):
Buy medikit with all $100 of my dollars
Medic -2
Perks: Waste Not Want Not -7, The Cleric -7, Speedy -4, Lively -2
Flaws: Valiant +5, Noodle-armed +4, Pacifist +3

AP per turn: 10 - 2 + 2 + 1 = 11
AP to use medkit: (5-1)/2 = 2
Gets 10 uses out of one medkit
Can't be healed by others, only use light weapons

Rolan7: Apothecary
Money: $0
Status: 3 HP
Equipment:
.22 Pistol
Medkit (5.0)
Perks/Flaws: 0 PP
Medic class: -2 AP per turn, Uses half AP to heal (rounded up)
Waste Not Want Not: Uses half supplies to heal (no rounding)
The Cleric: -1 AP to use a healing item
Speedy: +2 AP per turn
Lively: +1 AP per turn
Valiant: Cannot be healed by others
Noodle-armed: Cannot use snipers, machineguns, or shotguns
Pacifist: +1 AP to attacking


Did I get carried away?  I'd rather use the medipistol, if that's available by the time I join.
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Re: Monster Defence (IT LIIIIIIIIIIVES Edition)
« Reply #682 on: April 25, 2010, 11:08:50 pm »

Hum, can I take any flaws and perks now? Before we begin?
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Re: Monster Defence (IT LIIIIIIIIIIVES Edition)
« Reply #683 on: April 25, 2010, 11:23:38 pm »

I'd actually like to be a medic.  I like the "medipistol" concept, did you get that from Killing Floor?
Never heard of it.
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« Last Edit: April 25, 2010, 11:31:36 pm by Cheddarius »
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Re: Monster Defence (IT LIIIIIIIIIIVES Edition)
« Reply #684 on: April 25, 2010, 11:46:11 pm »

Okay.
Edited because I didn't read Cheddie's post well enuff
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Re: Monster Defence (IT LIIIIIIIIIIVES Edition)
« Reply #685 on: April 26, 2010, 12:03:58 am »

DO NOT TELL ANYONE ABOUT WHAT YOU HAVE READ.

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Re: Monster Defence (IT LIIIIIIIIIIVES Edition)
« Reply #686 on: April 26, 2010, 03:21:10 am »

How much money do I have?
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Re: Monster Defence (IT LIIIIIIIIIIVES Edition)
« Reply #687 on: April 26, 2010, 08:45:25 am »

You should know.
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Re: Monster Defence (IT LIIIIIIIIIIVES Edition)
« Reply #688 on: April 26, 2010, 08:49:09 am »

But what if we don't?
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Re: Monster Defence (IT LIIIIIIIIIIVES Edition)
« Reply #689 on: April 26, 2010, 08:49:51 am »

THEN CHEDDARIUS WILL EAT YOUR SOUL.
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