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[Lost Requiem]

Seriously, what the hell? Why do you have to give me the third degree? Completely uncalled for.

First off, Volatar is right. I was blaming the trojans for the BSODs and Vista for letting the cycle continue after the nth time. Not to mention that the only other time I mentioned Vista was explaining the normal performance I have. Mind you, I never overclock my system, and the most it will ever begin to heat up is when I'm playing Fallout 3. And again, nothing from what I know has changed in resource usage in the past two weeks. In fact, if I open up the task manager, it tells me that it's using the exact same amount of resources as it always has been.

I use a desktop, by the way.

[xoen]

sry man, but you should get elementary knowledge about computer you are using, imho.

just make fresh install of windows, if you feel that something is not right.
do not blame game.

btw, DF can make more heat than fallout 3 imho.

And again, nothing from what I know has changed in resource usage in the past two weeks. In fact, if I open up the task manager, it tells me that it's using the exact same amount of resources as it always has been.

that proves nothing. f'ed up registry may not be visible in ..task manager.
not to say that you are not able to see real problems in task manager at all(as viruses, services, you won't see NOTHING serious if you are infected).

btw, never EVER use registry cleaners - it is begging for problems.

I got trojans

hint - antiviruses are NOT good idea to GET RID of VIRUSES.
strange?
antiviruses are good for DETERMINING what causes problem.
after that you may need to FIND SPECIFIC ways of getting rid of SPECIFIC virus, especially, if it is something serious.
hint 2 - main problem with windowses is their "system restore" option.
every threat stored there may be...restored.
good idea - turn off system restore service BEFORE attempting to HEAL system with external software.
it may sound strange, skip that if you do not know what to do..

This sounds like overheating to me.

..or his machine got bios reset and lost stable bus/cpu settings, or sth.
maybe loosen RAM, gfx card, whatever.
even stupid clogged fans, dying power supply, etc. etc..

it will run smooth as giant cave spider silk, but after a few minutes, it will begin to chug. BIG TIME.

turn off speedstep in bios then, check cpu temp there BEFORE doing that.

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another idea - use hijackthis and post your log(..file ).

and finally - Vista is worst shit available, even win7 is better, not to mention good ol' xp(well, no dx10, tho).

sorry for ridiculous english, i am not native speaker(uh, writer).

[smjjames]

btw, never EVER use registry cleaners - it is begging for problems.

What do you mean? I use CCcleaner and I haven't had any issues relating to that.

[xoen]

What do you mean? I use CCcleaner and I haven't had any issues relating to that.

cccleaner is not affecting deeper parts of registry, i assume, some software can.
let's skip that point, all i wanted to say is that fiddling with registry without control may lead to problems.

lets wait for author's answer.

[Lost Requiem]

I don't go prancing through the registry without a damn good reason, and I'm always guided by a friend of mine who is a computer programmer and knows about this kind of crap. He has helped me before with computer problems in the past.
If I knew how to make a fresh install of windows, I would do it, but it's one of those fuck the world sort of deals. All my personal files are on a separate drive, so I have no real cause for alarm if anything catastrophic happens. Still, I don't like the thought of reinstalling the OS. My mind thinks of it as the equivalent to opening the Star Fissure in Riven.

[Footkerchief]

My mind thinks of it as the equivalent to opening the Star Fissure in Riven.

Well, don't think of it that way.  It's more like flushing the toilet so that it'll be relatively clean again for a while.

I cut the quote down to that specific instance for the direct contradiction aspect.
That's not the only place he blamed Vista.

And clearly, no, it's not perfect, but it doesn't have any major problems in terms of system speed or stability anymore.

Why do you have such a giant chip on your shoulder about Vista?  Even Microsoft thinks it sucks.

[Volatar]

Hmmmm... I think that getting some info on your system may help us. You could be having some OpenGL problems for example.

Go to start -> run and type "dxdiag". Press "save all information" at the bottom, save the file to your desktop, open it, copy-paste its contents into spoiler tags, and post. This will give us useful information on your system, and information on your drivers.

Also, xoen, capitalization is your friend. Don't be afraid of it. (also, read over your own post before posting - your grammar could use a little help  )

...also, I had to restrain myself from starting a flamewar over the Vista thing. This thread is about helping Lost Requiem with his problem, not about how much Vista sucks. Do not try and start a flamewar in his thread. Doing so would be bad for your health, and bad for the purpose of the thread.

[Rafal99]

Didn't read the whole thread.

How much RAM do you have? Are you sure you are not running out of free memory?
Because if it happens and your system starts using swap file, things slow down like hell.

[xoen]

[sorry]

[Sizik]

Do not try and start a flamewar in his thread. Doing so would be bad for your health, and bad for the purpose of the thread.

I have right to say my opinion. It is not flame, just statement.

I'm pretty sure that wasn't directed at you (as you didn't say much about vista) but at the thread as a whole.

[Volatar]

Also, xoen, capitalization is your friend. Don't be afraid of it. (also, read over your own post before posting - your grammar could use a little help)

ehhh dude, dude.
If my post was offensive or too messy to understand, just report it to moderator, please.
My post was about knowledge, not grammaR, imho. I am not at school.

If I had found your post offensive, I would have reported it. However, doing so would have been rather idiotic of me, as no one should be offended by bad grammar.  Also, moderators are not there to fix your grammar, only to enforce the rules.
I was just trying to be helpful. I have found that grammar severely impacts the amount of people that will bother to read your posts. If you care to have others listen to what you say than you should use good grammar. If you don't, then go ahead.

Do not try and start a flamewar in his thread. Doing so would be bad for your health, and bad for the purpose of the thread.

I have right to say my opinion. It is not flame, just statement.
Let's skip that. EOT.
Sorry for ridiculous english, AGAIN.
I won't try to help anymore.
Topic unsuscribed.

That was not intended for you at all. Sorry you thought it was 

[Lost Requiem]

Calm down everyone and return to your seats before people have to start dying.

I haven't experienced the strange lag as of late. Don't know why, but I'm glad it's not here for the time being. The bullshit of restarting the computer was getting very old after the first time.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

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System Information
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Time of this report: 2/7/2010, 15:42:52
       Machine name: PHOENIX-PC
   Operating System: Windows Vista™ Home Basic (6.0, Build 6002) Service Pack 2 (6002.vistasp2_gdr.090803-2339)
           Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Dell Inc.
       System Model: Inspiron 531s
               BIOS: oC)Phoenix - AwardBIOSTeDell System v6.00PG
          Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+ (2 CPUs), ~2.0GHz
             Memory: 2046MB RAM
          Page File: 2122MB used, 2205MB available
        Windows Dir: C:\Windows
    DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
     DxDiag Version: 7.00.6002.18107 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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      Display Tab 1: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
          Input Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D:    0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw:  0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay:  0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow:  0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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        Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS
     Manufacturer: NVIDIA
        Chip type: GeForce 8400 GS
         DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
       Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0422&SUBSYS_231B1682&REV_A1
   Display Memory: 1010 MB
 Dedicated Memory: 243 MB
    Shared Memory: 767 MB
     Current Mode: 1440 x 900 (32 bit) (60Hz)
          Monitor: Dell SE198WFP(Digital)
      Driver Name: nvd3dum.dll,nvwgf2um.dll,nvwgf2um.dll
   Driver Version: 8.16.0011.9107 (English)
      DDI Version: 10
   BGRA Supported: Yes
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
 Driver Date/Size: 9/27/2009 16:12:22, 7614056 bytes
      WHQL Logo'd: Yes
  WHQL Date Stamp:
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-4762-11CF-A156-10031EC2C535}
        Vendor ID: 0x10DE
        Device ID: 0x0422
        SubSys ID: 0x231B1682
      Revision ID: 0x00A1
      Revision ID: 0x00A1

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Sound Devices
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            Description: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
 Default Sound Playback: Yes
 Default Voice Playback: Yes
            Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0888&SUBSYS_1028020E&REV_1000
        Manufacturer ID: 1
             Product ID: 100
                   Type: WDM
            Driver Name: RTKVHDA.sys
         Driver Version: 6.00.0001.5555 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
            WHQL Logo'd: Yes
          Date and Size: 1/24/2008 10:06:40, 2054872 bytes
            Other Files:
        Driver Provider: Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
         HW Accel Level: Basic
              Cap Flags: 0xF1F
    Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 200000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 1, 0
 Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
              HW Memory: 0
       Voice Management: No
 EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
   I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No

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Sound Capture Devices
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            Description: Microphone (Realtek High Definition Audio)
  Default Sound Capture: Yes
  Default Voice Capture: Yes
            Driver Name: RTKVHDA.sys
         Driver Version: 6.00.0001.5555 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
          Date and Size: 1/24/2008 10:06:40, 2054872 bytes
              Cap Flags: 0x1
           Format Flags: 0xFFFFF

            Description: Stereo Mix (Realtek High Definition Audio)
  Default Sound Capture: No
  Default Voice Capture: No
            Driver Name: RTKVHDA.sys
         Driver Version: 6.00.0001.5555 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
          Date and Size: 1/24/2008 10:06:40, 2054872 bytes
              Cap Flags: 0x1
           Format Flags: 0xFFFFF

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DirectInput Devices
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      Device Name: Mouse
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
        FF Driver: n/a

      Device Name: Keyboard
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
        FF Driver: n/a

Poll w/ Interrupt: No

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USB Devices
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+ USB Root Hub
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x10DE, 0x03F1
| Matching Device ID: usb\root_hub
| Service: usbhub
| Driver: usbhub.sys, 4/10/2009 20:43:18, 196096 bytes
| Driver: usbd.sys, 1/18/2008 20:53:18, 5888 bytes
|
+-+ USB Human Interface Device
| | Vendor/Product ID: 0x0461, 0x4D42
| | Location: Port_#0001.Hub_#0001
| | Matching Device ID: generic_hid_device
| | Service: HidUsb
| | Driver: hidusb.sys, 4/10/2009 20:42:50, 12800 bytes
| | Driver: hidclass.sys, 4/10/2009 20:42:50, 39424 bytes
| | Driver: hidparse.sys, 1/18/2008 20:53:18, 25472 bytes
| |
| +-+ HID-compliant mouse
| | | Vendor/Product ID: 0x0461, 0x4D42
| | | Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_mouse
| | | Service: mouhid
| | | Driver: mouhid.sys, 1/18/2008 20:49:18, 15872 bytes
| | | Driver: mouclass.sys, 1/18/2008 22:41:54, 34360 bytes
| |
+-+ USB Human Interface Device
| | Vendor/Product ID: 0x413C, 0x2003
| | Location: Port_#0002.Hub_#0001
| | Matching Device ID: generic_hid_device
| | Service: HidUsb
| | Driver: hidusb.sys, 4/10/2009 20:42:50, 12800 bytes
| | Driver: hidclass.sys, 4/10/2009 20:42:50, 39424 bytes
| | Driver: hidparse.sys, 1/18/2008 20:53:18, 25472 bytes
| |
| +-+ HID Keyboard Device
| | | Vendor/Product ID: 0x413C, 0x2003
| | | Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_keyboard
| | | Service: kbdhid
| | | Driver: kbdhid.sys, 4/10/2009 20:38:42, 17408 bytes
| | | Driver: kbdclass.sys, 1/18/2008 22:41:54, 35384 bytes

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Gameport Devices
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PS/2 Devices
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+ Terminal Server Keyboard Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_kbd
| Upper Filters: kbdclass
| Service: TermDD
| Driver: i8042prt.sys, 1/18/2008 20:49:20, 54784 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 1/18/2008 22:41:54, 35384 bytes
|
+ Terminal Server Mouse Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_mou
| Upper Filters: mouclass
| Service: TermDD
| Driver: termdd.sys, 4/10/2009 22:32:54, 53224 bytes
| Driver: sermouse.sys, 1/18/2008 20:49:18, 19968 bytes
| Driver: mouclass.sys, 1/18/2008 22:41:54, 34360 bytes

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Disk & DVD/CD-ROM Drives
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      Drive: C:
 Free Space: 52.3 GB
Total Space: 142.3 GB
File System: NTFS
      Model: SAMSUNG HD161HJ SCSI Disk Device

      Drive: D:
 Free Space: 6.5 GB
Total Space: 10.2 GB
File System: NTFS
      Model: SAMSUNG HD161HJ SCSI Disk Device

      Drive: E:
 Free Space: 86.7 GB
Total Space: 476.9 GB
File System: NTFS
      Model: WDC WD50 00AACS-00ZUB SCSI Disk Device

      Drive: F:
      Model: TSSTcorp CDRWDVD TS-H493B SCSI CdRom Device
     Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 6.00.6002.18005 (English), 4/10/2009 20:39:18, 67072 bytes

      Drive: G:
      Model: KTUXKX WP2BW9MZG SCSI CdRom Device
     Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 6.00.6002.18005 (English), 4/10/2009 20:39:18, 67072 bytes

Here's my specs, by the way.

[Volatar]

          Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+ (2 CPUs), ~2.0GHz
             Memory: 2046MB RAM

Hmmm, same RAM ammount as me, yet only 2/3rds the processor of me, and yet you can run DF so well? Wow....

          Page File: 2122MB used, 2205MB available

Well hello there. Told you dxdiag can be useful. Your page file is almost completely used up. That generall happens only after your RAM is used up.

I think you may have a memory problem dude press Ctrl+Alt+Delete, open task manager, go to the processes tab, click on the top of the memory column to sort by memory usage, and list all the processes over 100,000 K here for us.

[Lord Shonus]

Do you customarily run firefox in the background? If so, have you stopped doing so? Many versions of Firefox have a serious memory leak.

Another thing you may need to try is RAMtest, which boots itself and does a hardware test on your ram itself. Most mass-market computers use cheap ram sticks that have above-average failure rates, the (erratic) symptoms of which sometimes match yours.

[Lost Requiem]

Yes, I run Firefox. It and Dwarf FOrtress are the only programs running over 100K. I force shutdown Firefox since sometimes the cache doesn't always clear up, and I do this when it reaches around 250K. I once had it go over 750K, and I'm still trying to find out why Firefox has this huge issue.