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[Pandarsenic]

Cheeetar's plan seems decent to me.

Webadict, do you agree?

[webadict]

My revealing of the investigator should Webadict not be scum will cover all possibilities, and a scum will be lynched in all.

I'm scum: You lynch me when Webadict turns up town, scum dies.
Cop is scum, hoping to kill townies: You lynch me and then scum/cop when Webadict turns up town, scum dies.
Cop is scum, bussing: We lynch his teammate Webadict, scum dies.
Cop is town: We lynch scum Webadict.

Lol, you've got a plan up your sleeve, don't you?

Cheeetar's plan seems decent to me.

Webadict, do you agree?

Incorrect. I suggest that you lynch Cheeetar, because this "investigator" is lying, and lying rather terribly, I might add. Mostly because I want to hear the exact wording of the investigation, just to see how much of a liar you are.

If Cheeetar turns up town, you may lynch me tomorrow. But that won't happen, because Cheeetar is, in fact, lying scum. There isn't an investigator, because if there was, he'd come out. What does he have to lose, and why would he use you as a proxy? Most investigators would follow you, but they would not talk through you with just an inspection. Considering your previous scummy behavior, I highly doubt anyone would simply trust an inspection on you.

The investigator has nothing to lose by coming out. In fact, it's almost impossible for Cheeetar to be a proxy for this imaginary investigator, because there's only been two Nights.

Which means that this investigator would've had to investigate you, Cheeetar (Above how many better and more likely targets), and then me. And then in the time frame between last Night and this Day have told you the investigation result.

So, Cheeetar, which one of your scum mates do you plan to use as your fake investigator?

So, just a few questions. They're really fun questions that you'll struggle on:

What is the EXACT wording of what my alignment is? No need for flavor. Just what was the word.
What is the name of the role for this inspector?
Why do you trust this investigator, either for his role or for his findings?

Because, honestly, you're going to have a heck of a time making up these answers. Oh no, Cheeetar, you picked a very bad target.

[Neruz]

ZOMG WANDBAGON

Org [1] (ToonyMan)
ToonyMan [1] (Org)
webadict [2] (Cheeetar, Pandarsenic)
Cheeetar [1] (webadict)

[Cheeetar]

Your alignment is scum. I have not asked what the role name of the inspector is. I trust the inspector as this does not seem something a scum would do.
The inspector has not said this himself probably because as an inspector the inspector is a target for mafia night kills.

[webadict]

Your alignment is scum. I have not asked what the role name of the inspector is. I trust the inspector as this does not seem something a scum would do.
The inspector has not said this himself probably because as an inspector the inspector is a target for mafia night kills.

Really? What part of the entire thing does not appear to be what scum would do? Explain in detail, especially the part where the inspector DIDN'T roleclaim to you, but you believed him anyway.

[Cheeetar]

Scum would not put their head on the platter by outright saying that a townie is scum. The inspector didn't roleclaim to me probably because it's not important. The inspector's role is to inspect, and the inspector said that Webadict was scum.
Explain to me how lynching you to prove the inspector and mines alignment would be bad for the town. (It's not. All scenarios provide us with a scum dieing.)

[webadict]

Scum would not put their head on the platter by outright saying that a townie is scum. The inspector didn't roleclaim to me probably because it's not important. The inspector's role is to inspect, and the inspector said that Webadict was scum.
Explain to me how lynching you to prove the inspector and mines alignment would be bad for the town. (It's not. All scenarios provide us with a scum dieing.)

No, it is important. Nobody goes up to someone and says, "I'm a cop" in a game with role names. Nobody. And you certainly don't do that when you have a reason to make someone do this. Are you saying that someone came up to you saying that I was scum and that you would RATHER THE TOWN LYNCHED YOU IF THE INSPECTOR WAS LYING:

If it turns out that Webadict is not scum, I shall reveal the investigator. You are also free to lynch me before lynching the investigator if you believe that I have lied about him PMing me. This investigator could be insane, but the investigator believes the investigator is sane due to flavour texts.

But, the funny thing about that story is that this inspector also never bothered to tell you he inspected you. Which, if this inspector were any good at his job, he'd certainly do. He also is real key on flavor text, but doesn't tell you anything important.

All scenarios provide the town with a scum death... Really? Only scum can say that with any positivity, because only scum knows who's scum and who's town. I know I'm not scum. But, you are, and that's how you know that we'd lynch scum with those scenarios. You didn't come up with the scenario that your inspector is wrong, though, and it's clearly obvious that you'd think that one through as well.

And, if you don't think scum would do that, why don't you offer yourself up as a lynch to prove what you say is right. It doesn't kill the inspector, like you don't want, and it makes everything you say true. It'd gives meaning to your words. Or, as is the most likely case, will shatter them completely.

Because, funny thing, I'm not the one that's making false claims here. What do you say, pal? You picked the wrong person to mess with. You sealed your fate when you decided to lie, and lied with such ludicrous slander (And terrible backing) that I literally laughed out loud.

Go suck a lemon, scumface.

Oh, and post the pms, with the sender removed. Let's see how much time it takes for you to fake post them.

[Cheeetar]

So, we should lynch me to prove the claims of the person who's sending me the claims that you're scum? Stop grasping at straws. All scenarios are provided for within reasonable bounds. In this scenario, one of us has to be either scum or insane. The inspector does not think insane, no reason for him to be insane, so one of us has to be scum. If we lynch you and you turn out town, I reveal the investigator. Then, one of the investigator or me is scum, or both. We are both lynched. Scum death. Two townie deaths at most. No townie deaths at least. One scum dead at least. Two scum dead at most.

[webadict]

So, we should lynch me to prove the claims of the person who's sending me the claims that you're scum? Stop grasping at straws. All scenarios are provided for within reasonable bounds. In this scenario, one of us has to be either scum or insane. The inspector does not think insane, no reason for him to be insane, so one of us has to be scum. If we lynch you and you turn out town, I reveal the investigator. Then, one of the investigator or me is scum, or both. We are both lynched. Scum death. Two townie deaths at most. No townie deaths at least. One scum dead at least. Two scum dead at most.

I can't be grasping at straws if I'm pulling out mounds and mounds of obvious.

You're the one that's become more erratic with each post. You're the one gasping at straws. You're the one talking for a character that doesn't exist. You're the one that seems to have all these answers for this imaginary inspector who didn't tell you anything other than I was scum (Notice, he didn't even tell you you were town, he simply knew it and you knew that he knew.) You're not aggressive: Your attacks are weak and based on SOMEONE ELSE'S role. Not your own. Likely, if I keep pushing you, you'll be forced in to claiming this imaginary detective. My guess is that you'll have to pick yourself (It's the only one that would even come close to fitting with your description) but you'll still be lying, because you'd have claimed the role if that were the case (Which the cop never told you, but you still believe him anyway.) You're ASSUMING that you or the detective'll need to be lynched because you're stressing the point clearly when it is known to be a town killer, and the way you set yourself up like that would be exactly what scum would want or do, which is the opposite of what you're claiming.

Also, you seem to be mistaken: If we mislynch you or the investigator tomorrow, we lose, don't we? But, you're not worried about this, like a normal town would be. You're busy making up several excuses as to why you shouldn't be lynched and I should. I, on the other hand, have several examples of why you're scum, why you're lying, how you're lying, the extent to which you are lying, and how many lies you're spreading.

I am the calm, rational one. You are the inconsistent, lying scumbag. I am town. You are scum.

[Cheeetar]

He did say that he knew I was town. I assumed that was a given when I posted about the inspector contacting me.
I'm simply accounting for all possibilites. All possibilites end with a scum dieing. With you lynching me, and I am revealed town, nothing is gained. You can simply say it was a mistake, the inspector was probably a scum contacting him, let's go lynch this other guy. We lynch you and you turn out town, we have a choice between two people who could be scum.

Also: Shall we count your points against me?
1. I don't know the rolename of the inspector.
2. I have accounted for the possibility that I am being lied to.
3. 'If I push you, you will claim detective'. (?)
4. If I turn out town and we then lynch you are you are town, we lose.


My answers:
1. This is ridiculous. What is your point?
2. It is a good move to account for every possibility.
3. ?
4. You already believe me scum. Why not die now and then have me lynched? Sacrifice yourself for the good of the town? But wait, you're scum. You can't possibly sacrifice yourself.

[webadict]

He did say that he knew I was town. I assumed that was a given when I posted about the inspector contacting me.
I'm simply accounting for all possibilites. All possibilites end with a scum dieing. With you lynching me, and I am revealed town, nothing is gained. You can simply say it was a mistake, the inspector was probably a scum contacting him, let's go lynch this other guy. We lynch you and you turn out town, we have a choice between two people who could be scum.

Also: Shall we count your points against me?
1. I don't know the rolename of the inspector.
2. I have accounted for the possibility that I am being lied to.
3. 'If I push you, you will claim detective'. (?)
4. If I turn out town and we then lynch you are you are town, we lose.


My answers:
1. This is ridiculous. What is your point?
2. It is a good move to account for every possibility.
3. ?
4. You already believe me scum. Why not die now and then have me lynched? Sacrifice yourself for the good of the town? But wait, you're scum. You can't possibly sacrifice yourself.

Limiting your answers now, I see. It's easier, so you don't backpedal as much. Well, let's do this!

Number one is extremely important. It basically means you were sent this equivalent:

im a cop. webadict is scum, but i might be insane but my flavor text seems to say im not. im telling u this because i am afraid of a scum killing me

And believed every word of it. You've also not posted the PMs where you were sent this, despite plenty of time to do so (AND you wouldn't have to show the sender!)

Seriously, I'd be questioning the entire thing without a role name, because I think if someone said they were Problem Sleuth, I'd take a lot more consideration to their PM. Unfortunately, you took the entire situation on face value, without any real evidence.

Number two, you have NOT accounted for the possibility that you are being lied to, because you took the entire inspection on FACE VALUE. That means you didn't get any details. You didn't get any other evidence. You didn't even try. You just said it and offered up additional situations to cover your back.

Number three is a precaution. I'm making sure that you are not going to claim to be the investigator, because that makes you lying entirely difficult to prove. Thanks for making my job easier, though.

Number four is because I can't let the town waste a lynch on me. It's against my civic duty to this town and to all towns everywhere. I know that wasting a lynch on me pushes us further away from winning. I know lynching you will be correct, because you're doing everything in as scummy a manner as you can.

You're really cute when you're trying to lynch town as scum, though.

[Cheeetar]

1 and 2. I did not take it at face value. I quite clearly took into consideration the possibility he lied to me. If you are town, which I highly doubt, I reveal the inspector. All possibilities lead to scum death.
3. I don't get it. Even were I to claim inspector, the fact that you predicted it would not weaken my claim.
4. Sacrifice yourself. Give the town a guaranteed scum. This is easy. If you die, town gains at least one scum death, regardless of your alignment. If I die and am town, nothing is gained. 'Wasting a lynch' on you is not wasting a lynch, as it reveals scum or lynches scum. Lynching me if I am town would be wasting a lynch.

[webadict]

1 and 2. I did not take it at face value. I quite clearly took into consideration the possibility he lied to me. If you are town, which I highly doubt, I reveal the inspector. All possibilities lead to scum death.
3. I don't get it. Even were I to claim inspector, the fact that you predicted it would not weaken my claim.
4. Sacrifice yourself. Give the town a guaranteed scum. This is easy. If you die, town gains at least one scum death, regardless of your alignment. If I die and am town, nothing is gained. 'Wasting a lynch' on you is not wasting a lynch, as it reveals scum or lynches scum. Lynching me if I am town would be wasting a lynch.

Why else do you believe I am scum then?

And, your situation is wrong. The only way to guarantee a lynch on scum is to lynch the investigator, since it's a me or him situation. However, there is no investigator, so it's a you or you situation. You should know this.

[Cheeetar]

Alright, if the inspector agrees to reveal themselves, do you agree to be lynched so it IS a you or him situation?

[webadict]

Alright, if the inspector agrees to reveal themselves, do you agree to be lynched so it IS a you or him situation?

Wow, you're really trying hard to lynch me. Why is that, Cheeetar? Is it that fake investigator trying to get you to kill me, the only person that stands in your path to winning as scum?

But, yes, if you tell me who's scum the investigator, and that person agree with that, then I will issue some words, and we'll decide who's scum, okay?

If you refuse to tell us who the investigator is, or the investigator says you're lying, then we'll see what happens.

Because I want to see how this turns out. So, nobody vote yet. This is going to be a great show for you all.