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Re: [GAME ON] MSPA Mafia -=2=- Day 1 - Ends Wednesday 11:00AM GMT+0
« Reply #165 on: February 09, 2010, 06:37:03 am »

What is with the hook on Magma?
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Re: [GAME ON] MSPA Mafia -=2=- Day 1 - Ends Wednesday 11:00AM GMT+0
« Reply #166 on: February 09, 2010, 09:07:35 am »

Errol  your thoughts?

Jumping on the Cheetar bandwagon won't really do anything good now. I'll only do it if someone tries to force a tie. I'm rather convinced that he is scum but he has a lead of two. Meaning there's hardly a reason to vote for him.

Same reason means I won't vote for anyone else because it would be one step closer to a tie. No reason to lay off trying to get answers though, so... let's get to asking Vector... namely, why she has stayed silent since voting ExKirby without a reason. Therefore, I'd like to know your reasoning for voting ExKirby beyond "He's scum". There's got to be something, we're out of RVS phase by now. I'd quite like to know.
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Re: [GAME ON] MSPA Mafia -=2=- Day 1 - Ends Wednesday 11:00AM GMT+0
« Reply #167 on: February 09, 2010, 10:43:46 am »

Errol  your thoughts?

Jumping on the Cheetar bandwagon won't really do anything good now. I'll only do it if someone tries to force a tie. I'm rather convinced that he is scum but he has a lead of two. Meaning there's hardly a reason to vote for him.

Same reason means I won't vote for anyone else because it would be one step closer to a tie. No reason to lay off trying to get answers though, so... let's get to asking Vector... namely, why she has stayed silent since voting ExKirby without a reason. Therefore, I'd like to know your reasoning for voting ExKirby beyond "He's scum". There's got to be something, we're out of RVS phase by now. I'd quite like to know.
Yep, scum.
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Re: [GAME ON] MSPA Mafia -=2=- Day 1 - Ends Wednesday 11:00AM GMT+0
« Reply #168 on: February 09, 2010, 11:03:00 am »

He's widescanning and focusing on sideliners.  That's much trickier to pull than tunneling.

Sidenote, last time I saw a person attacked for "FoSing rather than Voting" they turned out to be the doctor.

And you, Leafsnail, turned out to be scum.
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Re: [GAME ON] MSPA Mafia -=2=- Day 1 - Ends Wednesday 11:00AM GMT+0
« Reply #169 on: February 09, 2010, 11:09:22 am »

And you, dakarian, are almost certainly scum with him.  Are you really going to FoS someone with a mild question before defending them after they give a bad answer?  Really?  Not even a flicker of suspicion for his refusal to vote anyone at all, even his prime suspect?
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Re: [GAME ON] MSPA Mafia -=2=- Day 1 - Ends Wednesday 11:00AM GMT+0
« Reply #170 on: February 09, 2010, 11:30:16 am »

Toony, I wasn't saying to use it at lylo (although that would be a mighty fine idea imho) but maybe when you had better odds. Even I could have worked that out.
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Re: [GAME ON] MSPA Mafia -=2=- Day 1 - Ends Wednesday 11:00AM GMT+0
« Reply #171 on: February 09, 2010, 12:59:39 pm »

Toony, I wasn't saying to use it at lylo (although that would be a mighty fine idea imho)

You call putting the fate of town on a coin-flip a good idea?!
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Re: [GAME ON] MSPA Mafia -=2=- Day 1 - Ends Wednesday 11:00AM GMT+0
« Reply #172 on: February 09, 2010, 01:34:06 pm »

Not everyone pressure votes.  In fact, I haven't seen a single scum avoid pressure voting.  I HAVE seen town perform it.

You, however, seem to be jumping on easy meat by going for him.  Now you're creating scumteams.  Ugly.

In fact, far too ugly.
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Re: [GAME ON] MSPA Mafia -=2=- Day 1 - Ends Wednesday 11:00AM GMT+0
« Reply #173 on: February 09, 2010, 01:41:56 pm »

Yeah, continue bashing away at me passively.  You attack me with a totally ridiculous appeal to history ("Lol we shouldn't lynch scum they'll be doctor also u were scum").  I suppose you'll try and dismiss that as "reaction fishing", but this is past RVS - if you want to attack me, why not use a legitimate argument?

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You, however, seem to be jumping on easy meat by going for him.  Now you're creating scumteams.  Ugly.
This is MUCH too defensive of Errol for my liking.  You don't give a reason you think he's town other than something vague about a doc tell.

As for scumteams... if I see one, I will point one out.  There was no particular reason for you to prod Errol over anyone else, nor was there any reason to suddenly go to defending him.  This is EXACTLY the kindof scumtell I notice on you postgame and wish I'd followed up on ingame.
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« Reply #174 on: February 09, 2010, 01:50:27 pm »

No reason to lay off trying to get answers though, so... let's get to asking Vector... namely, why she has stayed silent since voting ExKirby without a reason. Therefore, I'd like to know your reasoning for voting ExKirby beyond "He's scum". There's got to be something, we're out of RVS phase by now. I'd quite like to know.

Yeah.  Initially, I did it because scum tend to come and ask redundant questions that people already know the answers to.  It's a form of trying to copy the town for purposes of blending in.

So I voted without providing reasoning because I wanted to get a reaction test, but ExKirby completely ignored me.  I personally feel that's scummy behavior, especially since he's wasting all his time talking about probabilities, rather than doing anything resembling scumhunting.  It seems like something of a smokescreen.

I was going to come back and press him on it more, but then I had homework duties and so on to take care of.  Those ate a rather crazy amount of time.


Toony, I wasn't saying to use it at lylo (although that would be a mighty fine idea imho) but maybe when you had better odds. Even I could have worked that out.

Is there some reason why you're arguing about probability theory--given that you don't seem to actually consider ToonyMan scum--rather than going off and scumhunting?

Also, 25% is a very large percentage, especially when considering that upon considering a random function defined on the real numbers, you can use the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus on it with probability zero.
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Re: [GAME ON] MSPA Mafia -=2=- Day 1 - Ends Wednesday 11:00AM GMT+0
« Reply #175 on: February 09, 2010, 01:54:36 pm »

Yeah, continue bashing away at me passively.  You attack me with a totally ridiculous appeal to history ("Lol we shouldn't lynch scum they'll be doctor also u were scum").  I suppose you'll try and dismiss that as "reaction fishing", but this is past RVS - if you want to attack me, why not use a legitimate argument?

Passive!?  Meh.

He's actually hunting for information on Vector.  Myself, I'm following up on a scumtell I found on you.  You, meanwhile, write "you're scum" with little else and you wonder who's not scumhunting between the three of us. 

Btw, spotting an action you did last game as scum but didn't do as town and are doing now IS a legitimate argument.  That's the definition of Meta.  Speaing of which..

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This is EXACTLY the kindof scumtell I notice on you postgame and wish I'd followed up on ingame.

You'll need to post evidence of this one...NOW.
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Re: [GAME ON] MSPA Mafia -=2=- Day 1 - Ends Wednesday 11:00AM GMT+0
« Reply #176 on: February 09, 2010, 01:56:37 pm »

I can hardly tell which of Leafy and Dak is more scummy.

Wait, yes I can. It's Dak.
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Re: [GAME ON] MSPA Mafia -=2=- Day 1 - Ends Wednesday 11:00AM GMT+0
« Reply #177 on: February 09, 2010, 01:57:47 pm »

Dakarian, for someone who hates shielding so much, you're doing a hell of a lot of it.

Additionally, if this is you trying to get lynched, then I am going to be extremely cross.  Play to win.
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« Reply #178 on: February 09, 2010, 02:10:28 pm »

Passive!?  Meh.
I feel absolutely no pressure from your attacks.  You've written my name in blue, sure, but you haven't SAID that I'm scum.  Yeah, my actions are "ugly", which strongly implies you want to kick dirt at me, but the attack simply isn't there.  Nor will it materialise until someone begins supporting you.

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He's actually hunting for information on Vector.

You're defending him for asking a question to someone without a vote or FoS?  Really?

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Myself, I'm following up on a scumtell I found on you.  You, meanwhile, write "you're scum" with little else and you wonder who's not scumhunting between the three of us.
You ARE scum, dakarian.  There's no reason to shield someone you can't have anything more than a null read on so much.  No reason at all.  It seems the more I press you on this the more you flounder, so yes, this IS scumhunting.

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Btw, spotting an action you did last game as scum but didn't do as town and are doing now IS a legitimate argument.  That's the definition of Meta.
Uhuh.  So your argument boils down to "Errol is throwing FoS's around randomly.  In a game a while ago, a doctor threw around FoSs randomly.  In that game, Leafsnail was scum.  Therefore Leafsnail is scum".  Think about this.  This means that in ANY game with someone randomly throwing around FoSs, I'm scum.

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Speaing of which..

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This is EXACTLY the kindof scumtell I notice on you postgame and wish I'd followed up on ingame.

You'll need to post evidence of this one...NOW.
Or "I'm going to use this as an excuse to vote you if you can't come up with an example".  The one that springs to mind is Paranormal 12.  You shielded Neruz all day, something I should've noticed at the time.
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Re: [GAME ON] MSPA Mafia -=2=- Day 1 - Ends Wednesday 11:00AM GMT+0
« Reply #179 on: February 09, 2010, 03:13:44 pm »

Toony, I wasn't saying to use it at lylo (although that would be a mighty fine idea imho)

You call putting the fate of town on a coin-flip a good idea?!
If Toony called his kill correctly, then it wouldn't be a coin flip; it would be a structured kill. I guess it comes down to some random post-based statistics. Wait-not random, but... AUGH. Putting my mind into text is HARD.
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