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[webadict]

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WHAT?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

[Mr.Person]

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WHAT?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Webadict is, apparently, Lil' John.

[webadict]

I have, successfully, given up on understanding this game.

mi brane r brokd.

[ToonyMan]

I have, successfully, given up on understanding this game.

mi brane r brokd.

Let's make this simple.

I won!  Yah!!

[GlyphGryph]

Hey, Rysiths jiggering was spelled out in detail!

[Cheeetar]

Webadict: I NK'd you.  Then I NK'd you again.

THEN WHO NK'D ARCHANGEL?!?

When Metagen are reprogrammed by a reprogrammer, their traitor tendencies are discovered and the Metagen is eliminated. Archangel admitted to being a Metagen, so Rysith repogrammed him to kill him.

[Rysith]

THEN WHO NK'D ARCHANGEL?!?

When Metagen are reprogrammed by a reprogrammer, their traitor tendencies are discovered and the Metagen is eliminated. Archangel admitted to being a Metagen, so Rysith repogrammed him to kill him.

Which conveniently bypassed doctor protection, so even if Webadict had been on Archangel like you said he would, he would have still died.

Glyph: I'd say if you want to keep the metagen, don't give them access to scumchat. Otherwise, there is really too much chance for them to pull what Archangel pulled. Metagens as rival machinators (maybe with only one other brain?) would also work, even with access to the scum chat. Basically, anyone with access to scum chat cannot be able to further their goals by publishing the contents of scumchat.

Public day roles are also very powerful: The two that we had were able to publicly confirm four people non-cybrid (Archangel, Toonyman, the person that Toonyman inspected, and the person that Toonyman inspected the previous day that Archangel guarded during the night). If you ran it again, I'd consider making the confirm/guard anonymous (Inspections public, investigator hidden) as a way to limit that.

I'll also n+1 the thought that the cybrids shouldn't automatically gain a kill once they run out of brains. Maybe allow the reprogrammer to name a role that he's trying for (which would increase the chance to get that one) to allow the Cybrids to somewhat shape their role selection?

[GlyphGryph]

I do agree the guard/test combo was kind of over-powered. The only reason it didn't blow away town was sheer dumb luck.

What do you think of Metagen as Serial killer, Rysith?

[Mr.Person]

The Technician should be a night role, imo. I know, personally, I would take issue with a guy cutting me open just to see if I'm a robot. But if the little bastard snuck in during the night, well, I'm not exactly able to say no, now am I?

Oh, and obviously he shouldn't be public. If the Overseer can somehow sneak away long enough to make announcements, other things can be done during the day secretly as well.

Of course, then the problem becomes how to rely the information the technician gets over to the Overseer. Public claim works, yeah, but then you're at risk. Sure, there might be a guard... but there might not be a guard. How long do you wait? There's no wrong answer, so I think it would be great.

Perhaps there should be some sort of repairman who can keep a metagen from dying or being disassembled. If he targets any other cybrid, they kill him. If he targets a human, he kills that player.

[Vector]

Yeah, the public inspections are way too strong.

[Archangel]

Yes, you're an idiot Archangel.

I agree, but not for the reason you mean. I'm still mentally kicking myself a bit for not trying to get the reprogrammer lynched. If I'd done that, I've had a good shot at winning.

[GlyphGryph]

I dunno - the thing about the public inspections isn't how good they are, its the fact that once the inspector is converted, everyone knows he's not the technician anymore.

Perhaps it would be nice to leave the inspect, but make a converted technician able to "fakeclaim" his test results by PMing me the desired result?

[Rysith]

I dunno - the thing about the public inspections isn't how good they are, its the fact that once the inspector is converted, everyone knows he's not the technician anymore.

Perhaps it would be nice to leave the inspect, but make a converted technician able to "fakeclaim" his test results by PMing me the desired result?

That might work. Letting converted Imperials fake overseer results would be nice too (since that's another blatant "detect cybrids by their lack of action" place). As it is, compare the difference between a cop in normal mafia and a cop who can't be falseclaimed and who you know is telling the truth. Compare, for example, the Disciple of Truth from the older Paranormals.

[Mr.Person]

Yes, you're an idiot Archangel.

I agree, but not for the reason you mean. I'm still mentally kicking myself a bit for not trying to get the reprogrammer lynched. If I'd done that, I've had a good shot at winning.

We still would of killed you in the end, but it WOULD of guaranteed our loss (minus Dakarian). We could of gone for a reprogram on Vector in the hopes he gets some more conversions. Unlikely? Yes. Possible? Yes. Note that if I was smart, I would of used the Overseer to tell Dakarian to use his ability. I probably would of failed to mention that there were no rebel conversions since Meph#1 tried to convert me... then blew himself up. But I would point out the high number of Imperial deaths, including the fact that ALL of the Imperial power roles are now cybrids or dead.

But we went for petty revenge. Oh, how I love petty revenge.

[GlyphGryph]

Okay, I'll think I'll give all cybrid characters the "falsify report" ability - any action that involves results being sent to other players can be faked, so Imperial reports and Test. I was strongly considering it for this game, but rejected it as a bit unbalanced - however, it seems appropriate after this little playtest.

If that is true, I think the public Tests become a lot more balanced.

Anyways, cybrid mafia revert is officially out, then.