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[webadict]

Was Archangel even aware the cult got a kill after they ran out of converts?  Weird.

Again, I'd like to repeat:

WHAT?!?!

[Mr.Person]

Was Archangel even aware the cult got a kill after they ran out of converts?  Weird.

Archangel got access to our chat, I'm assuming.

[webadict]

Was Archangel even aware the cult got a kill after they ran out of converts?  Weird.

Archangel got access to our chat, I'm assuming.

...

WHAT?!?!

[GlyphGryph]

Yeah okay I admit there was a lot of unknowns. If it weren't for the misunderstandings, I think the little hidden Dakarian surprise would have been a lot more acceptable - but combined with everything else, it was definitely too much.

So, does anyone want the game to be run again at some point?

And if so, what changes would you reccomend?

[webadict]

Yeah okay I admit there was a lot of unknowns. If it weren't for the misunderstandings, I think the little hidden Dakarian surprise would have been a lot more acceptable - but combined with everything else, it was definitely too much.

So, does anyone want the game to be run again at some point?

And if so, what changes would you reccomend?

Don't hide things that shouldn't be hidden.

When someone dies and revives, it should be told.

No adding flavor roles with hidden actions.

Don't give cults mafiakills unless there's a VERY good reason.

[Leafsnail]

If the Cybrids had obtained a hunter too, there wouldn't've really been much chance for the town.

[webadict]

If the Cybrids had obtained a hunter too, there wouldn't've really been much chance for the town.

They did.

[GlyphGryph]

At no point did they have a hunter. And yes, a hunter would have meant town had no chance, but getting one meant they were risking getting another Metagen instead.

Hunters may be included, but it would only have been with a different balance, and probably only in a larger game with the same amount of converts.

Also, I don't actually know the format for whats normal to say when someone gets killed and thus loses their one shot kill immunity. I was under the impression I DID tell you, via pm.

Don't give cults mafiakills unless there's a VERY good reason.

The good reason is that after the conversions they AREN'T a cult anymore, and didn't have a kill while they were. They are just a scum-team at that point. Without a mafiakill they wouldn't have a chance - remember that they are guaranteed one possible traitor with full access to chat and no ability and have a lot of town power to fight.

[Mr.Person]

Yeah okay I admit there was a lot of unknowns. If it weren't for the misunderstandings, I think the little hidden Dakarian surprise would have been a lot more acceptable - but combined with everything else, it was definitely too much.

So, does anyone want the game to be run again at some point?

And if so, what changes would you reccomend?

Getting a nightkill was nice, but I don't think the cybrids need it. It just makes them ridiculous. In exchange, make a Metagen not guaranteed.

Despite what you might think, I actually don't mind Archangel being an idiot. Expand on that. Survivors are basically mafia-ally that need to survive. Not really anti-cybrid at all (if you play it right. Yes, you're an idiot Archangel. No, I won't shut up.) If you had the chance of making, say, a rival Machinator, things get more interesting. Then the Redactor reprograms cybrids to be on their side. Then the Metagen can accurately be called a traitor. Of course, that would be a possible 4 factions in the game. You'd either have to make the game larger or cut the Rebels. Actually, things could get crazy if you roll a lot of Machinators. Hmm...

The only thing I really think you HAVE to have is more cybrid forms. Not too many, maybe 3 or 4 more, but there's just so few right now. None of them should be protection roles, btw. No helping Metagens survive. No helping any member survive, in fact. There should be a vanilla cybrid, one that can suicide and make another player a cybrid, and maybe one who can break machines, such as a pilot's ship or the Overseer announcement system. Hell, having a cybrid who can gain access to the Overseer's announcment system would be a great role in and of itself.

[GlyphGryph]

Hell, having a cybrid who can gain access to the Overseer's announcment system would be a great role in and of itself.

There is a cybrid like that, actually. The Cybrid Dissenter. So thats six right now.

one that can suicide and make another player a cybrid

I was considering this in the original planning thread, but it seemed a bit overpowered. I could see some games being interesting with this though, but tough to balance.

The other ideas is pretty good though. Really expand on the "Mechanic" element. The rebel saboteur could get the "break" ability in addition to his roleblock as well.

[GlyphGryph]

So is there a general consensus the Cybrid mafiakill is right out?

[Mephansteras]

Yeah, I don't think they need a mafiakill. Especially since you have the Rebels and Imperials trying to kill one another off, so it's not like they're facing a unified town or anything.

[ToonyMan]

*fist bumps Dakarian*

Sorry Rebel friends, I think I got a lot of you killed.

[GlyphGryph]

So if scum don't have a nightkill, how can they win if it gets down to one scum? Even if circumstances put them so they get everyone else possible lynched and play superbly, theres still a stalemate at the end.

[Mr.Person]

Handwavium. Say they win, I guess.