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[Rysith]

Victory in death! At least I can claim that my speech about the plight of the Imperials influenced Dakarian's choice to flee rather than stick around and kill off Vector.

Plus I got to kill Archangel. That was satisfying.

Speaking of which, Archangel: What were you thinking, anyway?

[Mr.Person]

I wouldn't sweat it, Webadict. If Archangel followed the damn train plan, you guys would of lost anyways.

[Mephansteras]

I think it was an interesting set-up, and I enjoyed it. It just needs to have the rules spelled out a bit better. Way too many strange things happened this game due to unknown abilities.

[GlyphGryph]

Webadict, I said in the OP there may be unlisted roles, though obviously this was a bit out there. When asked about the role, I said it was mostly for flavour, but it also got an ability. I wouldnt tell you what it was, but I did say that it would be unlikely to effect the game. And what happened WAS extraordinarily unlikely!

This was his basic list of tasks. He had to:
Get ToonyMan to repair his ship instead of checking for cybrid.
Since he was weak, not get killed or converted.
Survive until day 5 when the storm ended.
Get ToonyMan, if still alive, NOT to repair the comm unity. (This would result in death)
Find someone willing to abandon the base. Not as the Overseer, an Officer, or the Cybrid (This would result in death)
Others might just turn him down, but they do know he's the one who made the offer.
He must then leave the base without either playing being messed with or roleblocked or anything.

I honestly expected it to be a fun little thing with about zero likelyhood of occuring. When ToonyMan just fixed his plane for no reason night 2, of course...

[GlyphGryph]

Meph, the only unknown things that happened this game were due to dakarians ability (and ToonyMans requirement for it) that I know of. Where there other things you were thinking about?

Couple notes that may not have seemed terribly obvious from the players perspective, but I thought of when balancing the game.

Vector, the second person you got was a Redactor. Since you were guaranteed a metagen, I would have expected you to use him to immediately check the other two the same night they were converted, since I told you that the redaction happens after the conversion.

Town had a problem with replaces which really killed it, and some bad luck to start. The Rebel Organizer was absent most of the game, The first person converted was an officer who had just investigated and thus discovered the identity of the Overseer. One of the Overseers officers was converted night 1, and the other was absent for the duration of the game. And to top it all off, the town got really unlucky with its cybrid checks.

[Mr.Person]

It also didn't help that the first day was a no lynch. Rarely is a NL a good idea, especially on day 1.

[Archangel]

Speaking of which, Archangel: What were you thinking, anyway?

I was thinking, "I'd much rather have a town win than the scum come out on top." I also intended to say that Rysith was the reprogrammer, but I forgot. If I hadn't, I could have won.

[dakarian]

Ok.. wait.. why did webadict die!?

The only blasted reason why I even left was because the cybrids had no nightkill, so there would be 2 town and 1 cybrid.

Who killed Webadict?

[webadict]

Ok.. wait.. why did webadict die!?

The only blasted reason why I even left was because the cybrids had no nightkill, so there would be 2 town and 1 cybrid.

Who killed Webadict?

This whole game made no sense. Meph hitting Archangel instead of me. dakarian getting a plane. How did I get killed TWICE?

[Rysith]

Ok.. wait.. why did webadict die!?

The only blasted reason why I even left was because the cybrids had no nightkill, so there would be 2 town and 1 cybrid.

Who killed Webadict?

Cybrids got a night kill when they ran out of brains. No, I don't know why either.

Webadict, you got killed both of the past two nights.

[GlyphGryph]

When cybrids run out of converts, they revert to standard mafia. Sorry if that wasn't clear - that at least was intended to be the way it worked and was supposed to be out there, so it was an error of communication on my part.

Anyways, if this gets run again it will definitely, hopefully, run as a lot less of a bastard.

[dakarian]

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No.. that was very much unknown.  I was running off the assumption that it was traditional cult based which doesn't get a nightkill.  Besides, Cybids could get a hunter, which already has a nightkill.

Well, in the least, my suspicion was correct: too many imperials were killed.  I left because I felt if I stayed it would be a rebel win and, thus, my loss.  I was expecting the rebels to win anyway, but meh.  Imperials were doomed in any case.

Well, GG in any case.  The bastard parts do need to be watched over closely.  Having a few 'hidden' features is nice but note that towns are VERY good at doing the worst for themselves for some reason.

To be honest, though, if anything really REALLY messed the game up, it would be the flakings and inactives.  Makes it interesting that this would be the first game of the new season.  I'm glad we got to see it to the end though.

Overall, I did like the setup.  It was odd how the town had so much power BUT still had a very hard time of it.  Cults really are VERY powerful O.o

Sidenote: Mutagen really had no business spilling the beans.  It guarenteed his death, especially since I don't think the doctor actually protects against a cybrid reprogram.

[Mephansteras]

Meph, the only unknown things that happened this game were due to dakarians ability (and ToonyMans requirement for it) that I know of. Where there other things you were thinking about?

I was also thinking about Archangel's guard ability working both day and night and lasting until he changed targets. I wouldn't have targeted Webadict that first day if I'd known that. And my actually taking someone out with that bomb would have changed the game a good bit.

[webadict]

So, like I said, UNKNOWN RULES APPLY TO EVERYTHING!

[Leafsnail]

Was Archangel even aware the cult got a kill after they ran out of converts?  Weird.