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Author Topic: Cybrid Mafia : I//S//E - Game has ended, Cybrid Victory! ToonyMan, Dakarian win!  (Read 49354 times)

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Re: Cybrid Mafia : INFILTRATE//SEEK//ELIMINATE - Day 1! GO!
« Reply #75 on: February 17, 2010, 12:14:40 am »

Let's see if I get this straight.

The Overseer does something important?  I don't remember whatever I'll check back later.

I vote Webadict for shooting me.
Yeah, but it turns out that was like forever ago and no longer works as a cool means to vote me.

Vector (Chosen by our good friend the 10-sided die), which do you think is most important: Cybrid hunting, Imperial hunting, or Rebel hunting, and why?

Doing a RV randomly is scummy, we aren't able to see your motive.  At least choose your targets with a reason.
He doesn't have a reason to do so, for the fact that he is SCUM!

Aren't you Rysith?
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« Reply #76 on: February 17, 2010, 12:16:32 am »

Archangel, why are you a cybrid?
Why are you a Cybrid?
« Last Edit: February 17, 2010, 12:18:12 am by Archangel »
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« Reply #77 on: February 17, 2010, 12:18:51 am »

Vector (Chosen by our good friend the 10-sided die), which do you think is most important: Cybrid hunting, Imperial hunting, or Rebel hunting, and why?

... Good evening, Rysith.

I think that this all depends on which faction you're part of.  If you're an Imperial, your numbers are superior--so a D1 Cybrid kill would be best for you, since it would result in an auto-win.  If you're a Cybrid, what matters most is surviving through the first day and night.  If you're a Rebel, you need to hunt Imperials and Rebels--i.e., play a town game.  Make sure the Cybrid doesn't die D1, but kill Imperials while figuring out who your brethren are.

Taking a weighted average over the three factions (with the assumption that Imperials outnumber Rebels by 2 or more), we can assume that it is most important to kill the Cybrid.


Now...

Archangel, why are you a cybrid?

Mr. Person, why are you declaring your Imperial sympathies so soon?
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« Reply #78 on: February 17, 2010, 12:19:30 am »

Sorry about the edit, took too long to remove this:
I'm not, because I'm a Phoenix.
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« Reply #79 on: February 17, 2010, 12:22:44 am »

I haven't had a chance to vote you for it yet Webadickt.
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« Reply #80 on: February 17, 2010, 12:23:11 am »


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« Reply #81 on: February 17, 2010, 12:44:53 am »

Archangel, why are you a cybrid?

Mr. Person, why are you declaring your Imperial sympathies so soon?

Either I'm an Imperial, or I want to appear to be on the currently dominant Imperials.
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« Reply #82 on: February 17, 2010, 12:48:20 am »

Either I'm an Imperial, or I want to appear to be on the currently dominant Imperials.

Ah, you're a Rebel, then.  Sucks to be you.
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« Reply #83 on: February 17, 2010, 01:08:25 am »

Taking a weighted average over the three factions (with the assumption that Imperials outnumber Rebels by 2 or more), we can assume that it is most important to kill the Cybrid.

Now...

Archangel, why are you a cybrid?

Mr. Person, why are you declaring your Imperial sympathies so soon?

So then, although two of the three factions would very much prefer the cybrids to live to see tomorrow, you feel it is most important to hunt them to fit in? Interesting, interesting. Also interesting that you're pointing out Imperial sympathies, when according to your above analysis Imperial = Town. Would you accuse someone of having town sympathies in a normal game? And anti-cybrid is pro-Imperial, when the Rebels no doubt wish to at least contain the cybrids as well. A curious set of attitudes, that.

Toonyman: What motives should I have this early, other than to provoke a reaction?
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« Reply #84 on: February 17, 2010, 01:22:34 am »

For those who have asked, a few clarifications:

The Mafia do NOT have a standard Night Kill action. This means that at the very least, no one can die (from the cybrids) night one.

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« Reply #85 on: February 17, 2010, 01:49:12 am »

So then, although two of the three factions would very much prefer the cybrids to live to see tomorrow, you feel it is most important to hunt them to fit in? Interesting, interesting. Also interesting that you're pointing out Imperial sympathies, when according to your above analysis Imperial = Town. Would you accuse someone of having town sympathies in a normal game? And anti-cybrid is pro-Imperial, when the Rebels no doubt wish to at least contain the cybrids as well. A curious set of attitudes, that.

I am taking a weighted average over people per motive, rather than groups in and of themselves--it would be folly to do otherwise.  Just as scum must hunt scum, rebels and cybrid must hunt cybrid.  I believe that in this case, self-confidence may be a "true imperial"-tell.

I would not accuse someone of having town sympathies in a normal game, no.  I will submit here, however, that Imperials initially act as a town, though they fundamentally are not one.  For the first day, at the very least, everyone wants to be an Imperial (so non-Imperials are going to be holding up big flashing signs saying I WANT TO KILL CYBRIDS, since they're all sort of like SKs D1).  On subsequent days... gah.  I'm already confused.  Basically, everyone wants to find out what everyone else is, and right now people want to be Imperials.  Since they won't be able to change their "allegiances" without looking floppy, I think they're always going to want to be Imperialesque (could lead to some odd situations, later).

Certainly, both Rebels and Imperials should be anti-Cybrid at the bottom of things (since no one wants to lose).  However, the question is as to who should be anti-Cybrid at this time, with this configuration.  The answer is clearly as previously stated.


Toonyman: What motives should I have this early, other than to provoke a reaction?

... Killing... Cybrid?  Is there some reason why you haven't gotten with the program?
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« Reply #86 on: February 17, 2010, 06:51:05 am »

Wow, game just started and already everyone reads like an open book.  Good.

Well, almost everyone.  Hey Meph, *grabs Vector and Mr.Person* what should we do about the rebel scum I found.  At least one of them is it and I have a thought it might be two? 
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« Reply #87 on: February 17, 2010, 10:14:23 am »

Toonyman: What motives should I have this early, other than to provoke a reaction?

... Killing... Cybrid?  Is there some reason why you haven't gotten with the program?

And your first step to finding cybrids (or rebels, or imperials) isn't provoking reactions from them? What magical cybrid-hunting technique are you proposing, then?

Unless you'd rather that there wasn't a cybrid-hunting technique at all, to allow you to convert others?

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« Reply #88 on: February 17, 2010, 11:08:19 am »

Toonyman: What motives should I have this early, other than to provoke a reaction?

... Killing... Cybrid?  Is there some reason why you haven't gotten with the program?

And your first step to finding cybrids (or rebels, or imperials) isn't provoking reactions from them? What magical cybrid-hunting technique are you proposing, then?

Unless you'd rather that there wasn't a cybrid-hunting technique at all, to allow you to convert others?

... I think we may have mis-understood each other.  Shouldn't you want to provoke a reaction for some purpose, and wouldn't that purpose also be considered a motive?

I.e., there should be some sort of chain here that goes something like this:

Rysith is a Cybrid -> Rysith must survive D1 -> Rysith must pretend to be an Imperial! -> Rysith must provoke reactions!

Or was everything after "Rysith is a Cybrid" lopped off in your view of your motives?
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« Reply #89 on: February 17, 2010, 11:48:00 am »

Wow, game just started and already everyone reads like an open book.  Good.

Well, almost everyone.  Hey Meph, *grabs Vector and Mr.Person* what should we do about the rebel scum I found.  At least one of them is it and I have a thought it might be two? 
Why are you so keen on Rebel hunting? Trying to make up for the fact that you're really... A CYBRID?!?!?!?

Toonyman: What motives should I have this early, other than to provoke a reaction?

... Killing... Cybrid?  Is there some reason why you haven't gotten with the program?

And your first step to finding cybrids (or rebels, or imperials) isn't provoking reactions from them? What magical cybrid-hunting technique are you proposing, then?

Unless you'd rather that there wasn't a cybrid-hunting technique at all, to allow you to convert others?

... I think we may have mis-understood each other.  Shouldn't you want to provoke a reaction for some purpose, and wouldn't that purpose also be considered a motive?

I.e., there should be some sort of chain here that goes something like this:

Rysith is a Cybrid -> Rysith must survive D1 -> Rysith must pretend to be an Imperial! -> Rysith must provoke reactions!

Or was everything after "Rysith is a Cybrid" lopped off in your view of your motives?
But, dakarian can't be a Cybrid if... VECTOR'S THE CYBRID!
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