Print

Please login or register.
1 Hour 1 Day 1 Week 1 Month Forever
Login with username, password and session length

[qwertyuiopas]

Consider this:
If the universe is expanding faster than the speed of light, then as you travel further out, you will expand with it!

So, after an incredibly unreasonably long time of travel, you will be far enough away to be traveling away from the earth faster than the speed of light because the expansion is carrying you with it.
I think.

(But it will still take a very long time to reach the edge, if that is even possible)

[JoshuaFH]

Of course we're not going to go from possessing a single planet to owning every planet in a galaxy, this needs to be taken in steps.

First step, Mars. Sure, it LOOKS inhospitable, but this is just a warmup for things to come. Gonna terraform the HELL out of Mars.

And hey, if we can figure out a way to remove all the sulphuric acid from Venus, and contrive some way of cooling it down, then it might be a prospect for terraforming as well.

[Dwarf]

Of course we're not going to go from possessing a single planet to owning every planet in a galaxy, this needs to be taken in steps.

First step, Mars. Sure, it LOOKS inhospitable, but this is just a warmup for things to come. Gonna terraform the HELL out of Mars.

And hey, if we can figure out a way to remove all the sulphuric acid from Venus, and contrive some way of cooling it down, then it might be a prospect for terraforming as well.

Oh well, our own solar system is fairly reasonable to be colonized, but even then, we're reaching our limits. It's going to be tedious with normal communications and STL travel.

Oh also, due to that, the planets of our solar system would likely not be united under one empire. Rather, I guess, each planet would be it's own nation. Then, there is the question if, by then, Earth is unified, or another colonial race begins. I can imagine the USA and China, India and maaaaybe Russia dashing for it. It's a huge prestige thingy.

[Zironic]

If anything mars would become society of order, with not major religion but a consistent belief in obeying your superiors and doing what is necessary for the whole to survive. People on Mars would develop a distaste for us earthlings who live and act in chaos as they live and survive through order.

[JoshuaFH]

But we'd never have to worry about them fighting us because Mars is smaller and thus has weaker gravity than Earth. This would culminate in the generations of Mars inhabitants having weaker bones than us Earthlings.

If any Martians tried coming over to attack, their legs would snap from the increase in gravity.

[Dwarf]

If anything mars would become society of order, with not major religion but a consistent belief in obeying your superiors and doing what is necessary for the whole to survive. People on Mars would develop a distaste for us earthlings who live and act in chaos as they live and survive through order.

[Il Palazzo]

But we'd never have to worry about them fighting us because Mars is smaller and thus has weaker gravity than Earth. This would culminate in the generations of Mars inhabitants having weaker bones than us Earthlings.

If any Martians tried coming over to attack, their legs would snap from the increase in gravity.

Yeah, they wouldn't land. Just fly past and drop their nukes. You can't allow those dangerous Earthlings to continue menacing indefinitely, after all.

[JoshuaFH]

What would that be called? Interplanetary Nuclear Warfare?

[Sergius]

I just realized that Phobos and Deimos are possitively TINY! I wonder how they managed to fit all those DooM levels in them?!

[Micro102]

About that whole "the universe is accelerating away" thing based on the infrared signals they are sending out(or whatever signals). It is based on something giving all the mass in the universe force, like dark-matter, but don't you think something that can warp such massive amounts of mass that it would also warp these signals they are basing this theory on?

[Il Palazzo]

It's not the mass being warped nor wraped, it's the space. It's also not about signals sent by sciencists, it's about signals from the beggining of the universe reaching us - and it's exactly due to them being warped(read: redshifted) that the theory holds.
In short, assuming the Big Bang theory is right, the universe at the begging must've been very hot, filled among other things with very high energy radiation(i.e.short wavelenghts). These days, what we can detect coming from every part of the sky(and which is assumed to be remnants of that primordial radiation), is quite "cold" light - just infrared. There really aren't that many ways to redshift a lightwave so much, and the only sensible theory that explains it is the expanding space one.
If this doesn't help, perhaps going to the "physics and mathemathics discussion" thread would let you ask this question to somebody more learned than me.

[Itnetlolor]

You want more fun with scaling objects and such, you ought to check this guy's site out.

http://www.merzo.net/

[Choose username]

Terra-forming Mars is out of the question, as it has no magnetic field to keep the atmosphere. It would vaporize after a while from the Sun's rays. Also, no planet would be it's "own" nation, as there was a law passed that makes it illegal to claim land in outer space.

[Il Palazzo]

Neither does Venus, and see how "atmospheric" it is. However, it is devoid of water particles, which are apparently the most prone to being "blown away" by the solar wind. The question is, how quick is this process. If a 500 years-long terraforming will give Mars Earth-like atmosphere which will get blown away after, say, a million years or even ten millenia, it's still a profitable enterprise. Not to mention that if you did it once, you can do it again to rejuvenate the thinning air.

As for the laws, these tend to change over time.

[A Dwarven Smokeologist]

But wait, why would we waste energy terraforming a planet when our godlike robotic bodies have no problems surviving even the coldest region of space?*





*Death by Gas Giant, Black Hole, Star or other object not covered by the warranty.