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[Leafsnail]

No opportunity to catch up:

My ability is a one shot. I haven't used it yet. There is no friendship save for flavor.

Oh, so you're a one shot dayvig saving your ability for lylo?

Nothing scummy about that then.

[dakarian]

one shot poisoner.  The 'friend' is due to flavor. It's barney after all.

Personaly, I'm starting to believe it.  I know I saved a dayvig past day 1.  Besides, it seems very OP to give scum a poison AND a mafiakill.

Sidenote, Org just sent me his claim.  He's claiming it was a doctor role.

[webadict]

one shot poisoner.  The 'friend' is due to flavor. It's barney after all.

Personaly, I'm starting to believe it.  I know I saved a dayvig past day 1.  Besides, it seems very OP to give scum a poison AND a mafiakill.

Sidenote, Org just sent me his claim.  He's claiming it was a doctor role.

... Just a Doctor role?

When you said "Friend", well all assumed you meant that you told your target your alignment. What you really meant to say was you can poison people.

The fact it's 1-shot makes it hard. Now I have to actually figure out your alignment rather than just rely on your friendship.

I see no reason for Solifuge to poison Leafsnail over Pandarsenic. We want them both dead, but at least Leafsnail can vote. This makes Leafsnail more valuable if he's town, but Pandarsenic isn't a threat at all if he's scum.

Because I don't think Pandarsenic is scum. If we're going to lynch someone and poison someone, we have to hit true:

Assuming that we make sure we're not hit, we've got a 3/5 * 2/4 chance to hit both Town. That makes 30%. That's pretty high. On the other hand, it's 2/5 * 1/4 chance to hit both scum (10%.)

Now, let's take out Solifuge (And assume he's Town) for a second: 2/4 * 1/3 = 16.7%/66.7%/16.7% to hit 0/1/2 scum respectively.
Now, if Solifuge is scum (It's not impossible, what with Masons), that drastically lowers our chances to about... 75% to lynch Town. Plus Solifuge kills a Town.

So, I believe we have many alternatives:
Have Solifuge kill Pandarsenic and NL - This makes it Lylo tomorrow, with Solifuge probably being killed in the Night and Pandarsenic dead as well. What do we gain? Not a whole lot.
Have Solifuge kill anyone and lynch - We have two shots (Assuming he's town) to hit scum. And we WILL have to hit scum. But, the next Day will have a Mylo, and if Pandarsenic is still alive, it's (probably) Lylo.

See, I want to do the second, but that's putting a lot of faith into Solifuge.

But, Leafsnail's valiant effort to put as much suspicion on Solifuge is getting on my nerves. Hence, why I believe the scum team to be RedWarrior0 and Leafsnail.

[Mr.Person]

The difference is, you want to kill RedWarrior, lynch Leafsnail, then, if the game's still going on, lynch somebody. I want to lynch Leafsnail, kill Pandarsenic, then lynch RedWarrior tomorrow.

You're seeing Pand as town that needs to be protected. I'm seeing Pand as dead weight. Whether or not he's scum, him being alive does us about as much good as him being dead, so I want him dead. I don't want to burn a lynch, however, and I'm not convinced Solifuge will hit correctly if we leave him to his own devices.

Of course, the flipside is killing Pand is the safe move. Killing somebody else is more risky, in some respects.

[dakarian]

@web

Yes, he words are he can 'heal' like a 'doctor'.  It fits with everyone else having just one effect or power. 


I realize two things that are at issue:

1. If Pandarsenic is town then the town only has 4 votes vs 2 scum.  If we mislynch and a NK happens, it's 2 votes vs 2 scum and we effectively lose.

2. Even if all of the town has a vote, if we fail to hit one of the scum now and Soli goes off, we lose.

As it stands, we're already at Mylo.  Either we lynch Pandarsenic and Soli doesn't use his power, NL Without Soli's power, or we treat this as the final day and try to hit scum NOW with both shots.  Meh, if Soli is lying scum and we mislynch someone other than Pandar, then Soli can NK someone ELSE and we lose.

To try to KISS it better, going safe means lynching Pandar just because of his role (I feel he's scummy but I don't have a full analysis on him so I don't have enough lynchworthy content so that's just a meh).  Going all out means trusting that Soli is town.

Myself I tend to take the safer route...but meh not sure on this one.

[Mr.Person]

@Solifuge: Could you tell us more about your poisoning? It's a day action, right? Does it kill that player at the end of that night or the end of the day?

[Pandarsenic]

The problem with my becoming a nonvoter is that I'm dead weight even though I'm town. I could literally not even be here and it would benefit the town as I wouldn't be potentialscum adding to WIFOM.

If RedWarrior0 ever shows up and claims, we can examine the setup for balance and see what doesn't fit.

Extension.

[webadict]

The problem with my becoming a nonvoter is that I'm dead weight even though I'm town. I could literally not even be here and it would benefit the town as I wouldn't be potentialscum adding to WIFOM.

If RedWarrior0 ever shows up and claims, we can examine the setup for balance and see what doesn't fit.

Extension.

We'll do that.

@web

Yes, he words are he can 'heal' like a 'doctor'.  It fits with everyone else having just one effect or power. 


I realize two things that are at issue:

1. If Pandarsenic is town then the town only has 4 votes vs 2 scum.  If we mislynch and a NK happens, it's 2 votes vs 2 scum and we effectively lose.

2. Even if all of the town has a vote, if we fail to hit one of the scum now and Soli goes off, we lose.

As it stands, we're already at Mylo.  Either we lynch Pandarsenic and Soli doesn't use his power, NL Without Soli's power, or we treat this as the final day and try to hit scum NOW with both shots.  Meh, if Soli is lying scum and we mislynch someone other than Pandar, then Soli can NK someone ELSE and we lose.

To try to KISS it better, going safe means lynching Pandar just because of his role (I feel he's scummy but I don't have a full analysis on him so I don't have enough lynchworthy content so that's just a meh).  Going all out means trusting that Soli is town.

Myself I tend to take the safer route...but meh not sure on this one.

And Cheeetar?

[dakarian]

Already stated before.  The FULL report =

Org = doctor
Cheeetar = can avoid one attack each night
Jim = roleblocker
neruz = 'can't tell the truth' role restriction.


Next to demand me to say it again gets a boot to the head.

[webadict]

Wait, what was Org's role?

No. How does Cheeetar's role work? Avoid one attack EACH NIGHT? That's... that's powerful. But, it's essentially useless unless there's two killers.

[RedWarrior0]

Eduren, never mind the replace. I'm Steven King. I can write a book basEd on this game. I learn two roles and the people who have them after the day, because the book appears to be uncannily accurate. I got Solifuge and Leafsnail. Solifuge is the Ghost/Poltergeist/Spook/Spirit/Tormented Soul/Ghoul, which he has not claimed. Leafsnail is... The Shusher.

[Eduren]

Votecount

Mr.Person[] - 
Leafsnail[2] - Solifuge, Mr.Person
Redwarrior0[1] - webadict
Pandarsenic[2] - Pandarsenic, Dakarian
Dakarian[] - 
Solifuge[1] - Leafsnail,
webadict[] -

1 extension request heard. One more to extend.

[RedWarrior0]

Extend

[Eduren]

Day extended to 4PM PST Wednesday.

[Mr.Person]

So RedWarrior, why aren't you voting Solifuge or Leafsnail?