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[Pandarsenic]

He wants or is implying he wants us to claim so he can claim.

I say we don't need to for him to claim if he's so eager.

He needs claims, not believable claims, to be on the floor.

[webadict]

He wants or is implying he wants us to claim so he can claim.

I say we don't need to for him to claim if he's so eager.

He needs claims, not believable claims, to be on the floor.

Restriction? What makes you think I have a restriction?

No, I want to know what your claim is. Now. Clearly, lurking intentionally, active lurking, and then WIFOMing everyone is a nice role for you, I guess.

I mean, seriously, what are YOU going to do about it? Lie? That'd be positively anti-Town. In fact, only the scum have to lie about their role.

I, on the other hand, am not trying to stall the Day, thereby losing the Mass Claim we have going, while at the same time lynching dakarian, likely Town, and bringing the game into the next Day.

So, how about we do things the way I say to do them? Got it? Because I don't know about you, but I am trying to make sure Town wins this game. So, you have two options: You can claim, or you can die.

One or the other really.

[Pandarsenic]

NO THOUGHT
MASSCLAIMS
WEBADICT PLANS ONLY
FINAL DESTINATION

[webadict]

NO THOUGHT
MASSCLAIMS
WEBADICT PLANS ONLY
FINAL DESTINATION

Your non-commitment to the plan is clearly for no reason whatsoever. I have already clearly stated I plan to claim, but I must get you and one other person to claim before that point.

And if you don't want to do that, you'll die an anti-Town death.

[Pandarsenic]

I did claim.

[webadict]

I did claim.

Right. I'll just need you to claim again. For real.

[Pandarsenic]

Why? You said you need me and one other person to claim. I did. One more person will claim and then you can.

[dakarian]

@Web

Cheeetar stated that he was the 'scout' and could avoid one attack per night. Jim roleblocked.  Org and Neruz haven't stated, though I'm asking them now.


As for Leafsnail's claim.. I don't buy it.  He claims I'm lying about my role, which means that my claim that Jim roleblocked would be a lie.  However, he's ascetic which would explain why he 'knew nothing about the roleblock'.

It covers his bases completely.  I still get to be lynched, while, after I die..well.  he's ascetic so of COURSE the roleblock didn't affect him. He doesn't even CONSIDER the idea that what I'm saying is true. 

It also doesn't explain WHY the killless n1 happened while Jim's argument does.

Thus I call Leafsnail's claim BS. 


As for Webadict's request to mass claim.... that I worry about. He's still neutral to me and it's supereasy to claim anything once you know everyone else's claim.

[Neruz]

-EDIT-

Woops. Ignore Dis.

[webadict]

Why? You said you need me and one other person to claim. I did. One more person will claim and then you can.

You didn't claim.

@Web

Cheeetar stated that he was the 'scout' and could avoid one attack per night. Jim roleblocked.  Org and Neruz haven't stated, though I'm asking them now.


As for Leafsnail's claim.. I don't buy it.  He claims I'm lying about my role, which means that my claim that Jim roleblocked would be a lie.  However, he's ascetic which would explain why he 'knew nothing about the roleblock'.

It covers his bases completely.  I still get to be lynched, while, after I die..well.  he's ascetic so of COURSE the roleblock didn't affect him. He doesn't even CONSIDER the idea that what I'm saying is true. 

It also doesn't explain WHY the killless n1 happened while Jim's argument does.

Thus I call Leafsnail's claim BS. 


As for Webadict's request to mass claim.... that I worry about. He's still neutral to me and it's supereasy to claim anything once you know everyone else's claim.

No, it doesn't simply cover everything. There are OTHER roles that stop it. Like Doctors. And Kill-Immunity.

You getting lynched wouldn't help anyone, except for bringing everyone closer to lylo, and I'm surprised you're even attempting this, especially considering that it doesn't help anything.

And, there's a very good reason to Mass Claim. Trust me. Very. Good. Reason.

Now, let's get some Extensions...

But, if we don't want to Mass Claim, I demand we lynch Pandarsenic.

[dakarian]

I'm not 'townie bombing'  I stated my reasonings for what I do along with my claim.  It will help the town if I continue to live.  I'm not going to cry if I'm gone though, especially so long as I believe Leafsnail is scum.

As for the situation, YES there ARE plenty of ways that the roleblock didn't end up with a NK.  However, Leafsnail doesn't even care to look at any of it.  He's didn't even think "oh wait, that DOES look bad.. well the fact that I'm ascetic would explain it."  Even if other actions show me as scummy, the claim itself should've brought SOME pause. 

But no.  It's instant "YOU LIE AND YOU SHOULD DIE!" and that's that.  That's not a reasoned scumhunt.

He had some nasty mess of a theory on why Solifuge should be lynched.  He didn't consider the 500 ways that the claim could be true and ran strait for the 'lie' theory, and now Ascetic, which isn't exactly easy to prove unless someone is a cop (which, in turn, outs any cops floating around).

As for the mass claim.. it's a gamble.  However, it might be worth a try.  Seen enough games where one helped the town or else the lack of one ruined things.

Removing the objection.  Adding a request to extend.  If we don't get things fully settled this day, we're done for on lylo.

I'll admit, though, Pandarsenic's reason for voting for me seems silly, especially since 'not being able to pull claims' when I already did throw out 2 rather ballsy ones seems pretty meh.  I'm still aimed at Leafsnail though for the moment.

Sidenote: Neruz says that his role was JUST the role restriction: that he couldn't tell the truth to a question.  He had no other powers. 

Org might've just stop posting to dead chat.  Hard to prove anything based on his claim anyway since he died D1.

[Mr.Person]

He wants or is implying he wants us to claim so he can claim.

I say we don't need to for him to claim if he's so eager.

He needs claims, not believable claims, to be on the floor.

I'm still confused. Do you think Webadict is scum? And you've never actually said why you don't want to claim.

Extension

[Solifuge]

NO THOUGHT
MASSCLAIMS
WEBADICT PLANS ONLY
FINAL DESTINATION

Veriliy, I LOLed.

Panda's plan makes sense, in that all Web said he needed was for all but 2 to claim first. We can claim whatever, to get Web's restriction off. Though now Web is backpeddling and trying to rework his statement into "not a restriction". He said the nature of his role was that he couldn't, which is basically a roleclaim anyway.

The whole thing smells like a fabrication... and Webadict's normal detached reasoning is not currently here. I call Shenanigans.

Also, my role is Bizarro Barney the Dinosaur. I can make one player my friend per day. They die the day after that.

[webadict]

NO THOUGHT
MASSCLAIMS
WEBADICT PLANS ONLY
FINAL DESTINATION

Veriliy, I LOLed.

Panda's plan makes sense, in that all Web said he needed was for all but 2 to claim first. We can claim whatever, to get Web's restriction off. Though now Web is backpeddling and trying to rework his statement into "not a restriction". He said the nature of his role was that he couldn't, which is basically a roleclaim anyway.

The whole thing smells like a fabrication... and Webadict's normal detached reasoning is not currently here. I call Shenanigans.

Also, my role is Bizarro Barney the Dinosaur. I can make one player my friend per day. They die the day after that.

I see... So, we can use you to double lynch. That's nice to know.

What does making someone your friend do? Tell them your alignment?

So, once Pandarsenic roleclaims for real, I can tell you my role.

[dakarian]

Soli.. what did you do N1 and N2?