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[Mr.Person]

So Dakarian, what's your read on Org?

[Jim Groovester]

Jim Groovester - scum.  Incorporates personal insults into his attacks, which isn't like him, and also seems to want to avoid taking on webadict directly.

I didn't take on webadict directly because I've seen what he was doing before. Make an unsupported accusation, watch how everybody reacts. The last time he pulled this on me was Paranormal 12, and he was town then. Should I take on people I think are town? Of course not. Why you think I should bothers me.

Jim is unusually abrasive in attacking Org and RedWarrior

Your acne is unusually abrasive!

Is politeness a town tell now? I did not realize, my good sir, that politeness 'twas now a town tell. Please accept my most profuse apologies.

The three punks were making fun of my perfectly acceptable Day 1 questions. I responded in kind.

What are you trying to do, Leafsnail? Help out Org by moving suspicion on to me? You're doing a shit job, you know, considering that you don't really have all that terrific of a basis to vote me.

Leafsnail, for scum tell fishing.

[dakarian]

The Doc bugs me.. bugs me horribly.  Everything else was answered though.  The doc claim nags at me so I'm going to give hi a LITTLE more stew time while I get a read on others before I finish with him.  I believe if he's scum I'll have more to use in due time.


Btw, since my last post was ruined by horrible quoting, to help the host I want to make sure you know that I Unvote org and since I turned my pressure I'll now Vote Neruz

And in case Neruz missed it:

Neruz, you'll need to talk a bit about your claim against Org.  You claim 'scumminess' and that he is overdoing 'org is org'.

Note that I HIGHLY doubt that I exactly said your claim already.

Also note that NONE of that was an actual question.

[Neruz]

Neruz, does your username have 5 letters in it?

No, there are seventeen letters and one cat.

As i'm hosting my twice-weekly DnD game atm, i'll go into more detail later, but for now i would like to make a point that dakarian appears to be extremely passive at the moment, i would have expected him to push Org much harder than he did, instead he started with his usual attack, but slid off and switched to me. I can understand him putting pressure on me, but the cessation of pressure on Org looks a whole lot like Scumdak trying not to push his teammates too hard.

I will be back laterer to answer your question properly dak once i finish the game.

[Org]

DONT USE META.
IT DIDNT WORK FOR BAYER AND IT WONT WORK FOR YOU.
NERUZ IS LYING, AND HAS NO RESTRICTION RULE THING.
LOL

WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THIS NERUZ?
YOU SEEM TO BE IGNORING ME
LOL

[Mr.Person]

Neruz, does your username have 5 letters in it?

No, there are seventeen letters and one cat.

As i'm hosting my twice-weekly DnD game atm, i'll go into more detail later, but for now i would like to make a point that dakarian appears to be extremely passive at the moment, i would have expected him to push Org much harder than he did, instead he started with his usual attack, but slid off and switched to me. I can understand him putting pressure on me, but the cessation of pressure on Org looks a whole lot like Scumdak trying not to push his teammates too hard.

I will be back laterer to answer your question properly dak once i finish the game.

I noticed this too and agree 100%. Dakarian doesn't "let people go" to stew, he drills them until he knows their alignment. Either he's radically shifted his usual play-style, or he's intentionally not doing something he usually does (which would make him scum). I'm thinking the latter.

[Neruz]

DONT USE META.
IT DIDNT WORK FOR BAYER AND IT WONT WORK FOR YOU.
NERUZ IS LYING, AND HAS NO RESTRICTION RULE THING.
LOL

WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THIS NERUZ?
YOU SEEM TO BE IGNORING ME
LOL

I say that you are completely correct, i lie like a rug.

[Leafsnail]

I didn't take on webadict directly because I've seen what he was doing before. Make an unsupported accusation, watch how everybody reacts. The last time he pulled this on me was Paranormal 12, and he was town then. Should I take on people I think are town? Of course not. Why you think I should bothers me.

You didn't explain this when saying webby was town - it looked a lot like you were attempting to avoid further attention from him.

Jim is unusually abrasive in attacking Org and RedWarrior

Your acne is unusually abrasive!

Is politeness a town tell now? I did not realize, my good sir, that politeness 'twas now a town tell. Please accept my most profuse apologies.

It differs from what you normally do significantly, and seems to show frustration.  Thus I regard it as a scumtell when applied to you.

The three punks were making fun of my perfectly acceptable Day 1 questions. I responded in kind.

What are you trying to do, Leafsnail? Help out Org by moving suspicion on to me? You're doing a shit job, you know, considering that you don't really have all that terrific of a basis to vote me.

Leafsnail, for scum tell fishing.

[/quote]
I'll look for scumtells if I want to, thanks.  My other problem with you, incidentally, was a wide cast net of suspicions with no real accusations or followups stemming from them.

No, there are seventeen letters and one cat.

As i'm hosting my twice-weekly DnD game atm, i'll go into more detail later, but for now i would like to make a point that dakarian appears to be extremely passive at the moment, i would have expected him to push Org much harder than he did, instead he started with his usual attack, but slid off and switched to me. I can understand him putting pressure on me, but the cessation of pressure on Org looks a whole lot like Scumdak trying not to push his teammates too hard.

I will be back laterer to answer your question properly dak once i finish the game.

I suppose you're not truth telling scum, but I thought you had to lie for a whole post if I asked a direct question.  <-- not a question

[Neruz]

My role says "If somebody asks you something, you cannot tell the truth", i'm assuming that means in answer to the question, rather than forever after.

[Eduren]

Votecount

Mr.Person[1] - Cheetar
Jim Groovester[1] - Leafsnail,
Neruz[2] - Org, dakarian,
Leafsnail[] -
Redwarrior0[] -
Pandarsenic[] -
Dakarian[1] - Mr.Person,
Solifuge[] -
webadict[] -
Cheetar[] -
Org[5] - Redwarrior, webadict,  Jim, Pandarsenic, Neruz

Deadline in 24 hours.

[dakarian]

Neruz, does your username have 5 letters in it?

No, there are seventeen letters and one cat.

As i'm hosting my twice-weekly DnD game atm, i'll go into more detail later, but for now i would like to make a point that dakarian appears to be extremely passive at the moment, i would have expected him to push Org much harder than he did, instead he started with his usual attack, but slid off and switched to me. I can understand him putting pressure on me, but the cessation of pressure on Org looks a whole lot like Scumdak trying not to push his teammates too hard.

I will be back laterer to answer your question properly dak once i finish the game.

I noticed this too and agree 100%. Dakarian doesn't "let people go" to stew, he drills them until he knows their alignment. Either he's radically shifted his usual play-style, or he's intentionally not doing something he usually does (which would make him scum). I'm thinking the latter.

Misread of meta is yet ANOTHER MISREAD!

I not only DO let people 'stew' all the time (Web and Toony get this VERY often in fact) but I advocate it to novices.  If you suspect someone but you don't have anything else to use against them and you don't have enough to fully lynch them with, you pull back and watch.  This is especially if you have only one scumtell on them.  If they are scum, they'll give out more.  If not, you'll see it and be able to fully let go.  However, sometimes you get more from watching them attack than making them repeat the same thing over and over.

And my 'slide' is very well practiced.  I used that in Second Chance when I slid off Leafsnail and charged for Pandar.  Ended up sliding off a townie that eventually daykilled the SK while tunneling right into scum that tried to buddy with me.  Bah, I've been sliding since my first game here.  I dislike 'allies' willing to join me in lynching someone and I HATE people who think I'm not 'pushing enough', especially when THEIR vote isn't on that person either.



Sidenote: Neruz, creating scumteams has never worked that I've seen.  Are you seriously aiming against me just because I'm not joining up with you in lynching someone?

Btw, kind of cute that you have time to explain my 'scumminess' but not Org's.

[Neruz]

I did explain Org's scumminess, it's the same explaination you yourself used; Org is currently doing his usual 'Org is Org' thing, unfortunately in the last couple of games he has abused that to get away with blatant scumtells, so i'm not interested in letting him get away with it again.

And i'm not pointing out scumteams, i'm just saying that your sudden cessation of pressure against Org, despite having a pretty good reason to believe he is scum that you yourself said looks alot like a scum trying to avoid putting too much pressure on his buddy.

[Org]

QUOTES QUOTES QUOTES
ROFL

[Neruz]

@Org

No, you don't get the 'org is org' defense anymore.  I had a lovely time seeing it used while you're scum.  Now, instead of meta, I'm using natural methods to hunt on you.

[Org]

@Org

No, you don't get the 'org is org' defense anymore.  I had a lovely time seeing it used while you're scum.  Now, instead of meta, I'm using natural methods to hunt on you.

QUOTES FROM ME LOL