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[Org]

Dak, really?
HE HAS NO ROLE LIKE THAT AND IS SCUM.
What scumtells Dak. Please tell me.
Rofl.

[Neruz]

Are you Town?

No, i am a serial killer.

Do you know who the scum are?

Yes i do.

[Neruz]

Fack, goddamn you and your stupid internets lag. Sorry, fakeedited post to fix typo, but my intertubes froze for about 30 seconds and taped an edit marker on there :C

[Org]

Lol.
Yeah.

[Neruz]

You're really overdoing the "Org is Org"ness you know.

[Org]

You're really overdoing the "Org is Org"ness you know.

Am I?
LOL

[dakarian]

Let's see:

Early lynch attempt on solifuge, then turning to 'cute jokes' soon afterwards. 

It's extra funny since you are a legend when it comes to playing silly and that your first attack was on someone for just that.

Then the Doc claim.. after almost no real pressure on you.  There was NO town good doing that since if you ARE the doc the scum will knock you out fast or attempt to peg you as a liar.  Meanwhile the town is stuck deciding if you are town or scum.  Neruz, at least, can be toyed with to see if he can keep up this 'restriction' and, even if he keeps it, we can still read him.  Doc is a wonderful fakeclaim since it panics the town easily and is very hard to prove. 

To me it just feels like an attempt to push me off the hunt.  You are very comfortable with getting people to stop hunting you.

You turn to Neruz after I poke at you about Solifuge:  Reactionary.

Now you're after someone because you dislike their claim.  You rolefished them and only just now attempted to find SOMETHING, but meh, bandwagon is easy to locate, especially when Neruz mentioned him liking to do it (which IS meh I'll give that). 

Now you want him dead because you don't believe his role even though you have no reason to actually believe him lying and don't really need to prove or disprove the role to get a read on him.

besides, he's not exactly hard to fight this way, and the town would LOVE to lynch something like that.

[Org]

Is the forums lagging for anyone else?
I believe Neruz about that. rofl
I hit back to add lol and then it says its an edit??

[Org]

Let's see:

Early lynch attempt on solifuge, then turning to 'cute jokes' soon afterwards. 

It's extra funny since you are a legend when it comes to playing silly and that your first attack was on someone for just that.

Then the Doc claim.. after almost no real pressure on you.  There was NO town good doing that since if you ARE the doc the scum will knock you out fast or attempt to peg you as a liar.  Meanwhile the town is stuck deciding if you are town or scum.  Neruz, at least, can be toyed with to see if he can keep up this 'restriction' and, even if he keeps it, we can still read him.  Doc is a wonderful fakeclaim since it panics the town easily and is very hard to prove. 

To me it just feels like an attempt to push me off the hunt.  You are very comfortable with getting people to stop hunting you.

You turn to Neruz after I poke at you about Solifuge:  Reactionary.

Now you're after someone because you dislike their claim.  You rolefished them and only just now attempted to find SOMETHING, but meh, bandwagon is easy to locate, especially when Neruz mentioned him liking to do it (which IS meh I'll give that). 

Now you want him dead because you don't believe his role even though you have no reason to actually believe him lying and don't really need to prove or disprove the role to get a read on him.

besides, he's not exactly hard to fight this way, and the town would LOVE to lynch something like that.

Cute jokes? lol
Doc claim, yeah maybe. Mistake.

[dakarian]

cute jokes was enough to warrant a just-out-of-RV pressure attack.  I expect a good response and explanation so that I can get a read on you and move on or keep pushing.

What I get back?  The Doc claim.

Yah, BIG mistake. 

Now answer the rest.  I have to resist hard to be done with you at the moment, and trust me, I don't do so for 'policy lynches'.

[Org]

Let's see:

Early lynch attempt on solifuge, then turning to 'cute jokes' soon afterwards.  Okay okay. Yeah. Still not sure what you mean by cute jokes.

It's extra funny since you are a legend when it comes to playing silly and that your first attack was on someone for just that.He was acting crazy, and silly, I guess that is what I do. But we cant take Org as Org, can we?

Then the Doc claim.. after almost no real pressure on you.  There was NO town good doing that since if you ARE the doc the scum will knock you out fast or attempt to peg you as a liar.  Meanwhile the town is stuck deciding if you are town or scum.  Neruz, at least, can be toyed with to see if he can keep up this 'restriction' and, even if he keeps it, we can still read him.  Doc is a wonderful fakeclaim since it panics the town easily and is very hard to prove.  Yeah, not sure why I did that now. They won't kill me. I am better alive then dead for scum, as everyone is confused by me, or somesuch nonsense. He already failed.He said I am acting scum because I act normally for Org. Doesn't everyone play normally?Meh. Yeah, Panics town, what not, but if you can't take it seriously,nothing to worry about.

To me it just feels like an attempt to push me off the hunt.  You are very comfortable with getting people to stop hunting you.Yeah, since I am town, it would be great to stop tuneeling.

You turn to Neruz after I poke at you about Solifuge:  Reactionary. Somewhat, or is it that his restriction is completely absurd?

Now you're after someone because you dislike their claim.  You rolefished them and only just now attempted to find SOMETHING, but meh, bandwagon is easy to locate, especially when Neruz mentioned him liking to do it (which IS meh I'll give that).  Yes! Yes yes yes. I find it completely bull shit. I rolefished, to see if he could keep it up. Yes, it is meh. Not supposed to bandwagon with no reasons. he nev er did post the "scummy posts".

Now you want him dead because you don't believe his role even though you have no reason to actually believe him lying and don't really need to prove or disprove the role to get a read on him.
Yes, because he is lying scum.
besides, he's not exactly hard to fight this way, and the town would LOVE to lynch something like that.

lol

[Leafsnail]

Sorry, I've been on a Go playing competition today.  I'll try and read up through what I've missed, although from what I've seen (a Serial Killer claim) this should be... interesting .

[dakarian]

Let's see:
Okay okay. Yeah. Still not sure what you mean by cute jokes.

Cuz ROFL we would be teh best teem evars!

Those jokes.  Alone would be just a reason to pressure vote for a read. 

He was acting crazy, and silly, I guess that is what I do. But we cant take Org as Org, can we?

No, but we can't allow hypocrisy either. It looks ugly when you do what you vote against but maintain the vote.  It makes me wonder how you can see it as a scumtell when you, supposedly as town, are doing just the same.
 

Yeah, not sure why I did that now. They won't kill me. I am better alive then dead for scum, as everyone is confused by me, or somesuch nonsense. He already failed.He said I am acting scum because I act normally for Org. Doesn't everyone play normally?Meh. Yeah, Panics town, what not, but if you can't take it seriously,nothing to worry about.

Yah.  I see you understand the idea of not liking a role claim said early that is difficult to prove.  Of course, if you are town and claimed you understand if another claimed a role that was just as difficult and would take it as a possible null tell since you'd both be in the same boat.

Oh wait...

To me it just feels like an attempt to push me off the hunt.  You are very comfortable with getting people to stop hunting you.Yeah, since I am town, it would be great to stop tuneeling.

Pushing people away from hunting you using any method possible is a SCUMTELL, not a towntell.  Townies tend to be more understanding in knowing that you aren't confirmed and, thus, would pressure and hunt you to be able to read you.  Scum don't like it because..well.. they'd be read as scum. 

So you'll understand why I won't stop hunting you just because you don't like it.

You turn to Neruz after I poke at you about Solifuge:  Reactionary. Somewhat, or is it that his restriction is completely absurd?

Attempts to Out Guess the Mod leads to deadly danger.  Unless you honestly believe that Neruz would not consider putting a role like that into a Toon Mafia game you don't have much of a standing on your argument beyond marking it as a null tell.


Sidenote: I personally can see a 'must lie' rule as more likely than a role that's JUST a doctor.

Yes! Yes yes yes. I find it completely bull shit. I rolefished, to see if he could keep it up. Yes, it is meh. Not supposed to bandwagon with no reasons. he nev er did post the "scummy posts".

That, at least makes more sense.

Yes, because he is lying scum.

After that, I realize that MOST of the situation reads as rather 'meh' but not 'lynchable meh'.  I would be able to let go a bit more from it.

But that doc claim that came out of nowhere.  It's ugly.   

We'll see for now, unvote org


Meanwhile:

Neruz, you'll need to talk a bit about your claim against Org.  You claim 'scumminess' and that he is overdoing 'org is org'.

Note that I HIGHLY doubt that I exactly said your claim already.

Also note that NONE of that was an actual question.



@Leaf

Read up on Neruz' actual claim earlier.  It attempts to explain his posts afterwards.

[Leafsnail]

Summary:

webadict pushes Org, since he's apparently taking RiA.  I don't see Org doing it myself - and it'd be Refuge in Retardedness anyway
Jim asks a bunch of random questions... without any real pressure or reason
Webadict attacks (without backup - Jim asks for more info)
Org is Org
RedWarrior makes a weird joke
Jim is unusually abrasive in attacking Org and RedWarrior
Cheeetar answers Jim's crap question without providing anything of his own to go on
dakarian attacks Org for being Org... pretty weak for him
Pandarsenic unvotes, claiming something is amiss
Mr.Person speaks sense
Org claims doc :/
Roleclaim gets more confusing
Mr.Person attacks dakarian
Pandarsenic votes Org
Neruz claims he has to lie when answering a direct question
Cheeetar abuses the mechanic
Neruz says Org and Dak town scum.  Claims to be scum.
Org... rolefishes!?  WHAT?!
Neruz claims vanilla... not really necessary?
Dakarian makes another oddly light attack on Org
Org continues his retardedness streak
Dakarian hits Org a bit harder, but seems somewhat delayed

Ok, firstly - I am worried that Neruz could be a mafia role that has to tell the truth, and he's claimed this to cover himself.  However, there is a very easy way to test if this is the case.
Neruz, does your username have 5 letters in it?

Secondly, reads on those in this segment of the game:
Webadict - probably town.  Scum webadict is more cautious than he was with his rough treatment of JG
Mr.Person - town.  What he says seems to make sense, and he wasn't afraid to attack dakarian, something scum would avoid (regardless of dak's alignment)
Pandarsenic - leaning town assuming my read on Org is right - it doesn't look like a bus.  His exact reasons are shaky, however.
Neruz - town if he is able to answer my question incorrectly.  I don't think he'd fake a post restriction like that on day one - it'd draw a lot of attention to himself.  If he answers my question correctly, scum.
RedWarrior0 - leaning scum.  His joke was dumb and innapropriate at that point, and he didn't really add anything.
Org - scum.  Org is often stupid like this, but he doesn't rolefish or claim a PR this early.
Jim Groovester - scum.  Incorporates personal insults into his attacks, which isn't like him, and also seems to want to avoid taking on webadict directly.

RedWarrior, Org, Jim, I'd like you three especially to read this and answer the things I've put against you.

[Org]

DONT USE META.
IT DIDNT WORK FOR BAYER AND IT WONT WORK FOR YOU.
NERUZ IS LYING, AND HAS NO RESTRICTION RULE THING.