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Author Topic: Water covered ramps move objects to the lower ground.  (Read 1230 times)

Thanshin

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Water covered ramps move objects to the lower ground.
« on: January 27, 2010, 12:16:39 pm »

This suggestion is so simple it fits in the title.

For more details:
- "water covered" as in 1/7 to 7/7. Not muddy.
- "move" as in "Teleport to the next tile (the lower one) or to a randome one if the ramp has two lower tiles".
- "object" as in "anything on the tile that doesn't swim".

The consequences and possibilities are huge, but the develompent should be trivial.
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Draco18s

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Re: Water covered ramps move objects to the lower ground.
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2010, 02:13:17 pm »

You realize that a "down ramp" doesn't really exist and acts as empty space for the purposes of gravity, right?
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Jadael

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Re: Water covered ramps move objects to the lower ground.
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2010, 03:18:10 pm »

Sure, so if something falls onto a ramp from above, AND there's water on the ramp, the object continues moving sideways to somewhere lower if it can.

Although, making stuff follow the water currents would be a more accurate solution.
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Re: Water covered ramps move objects to the lower ground.
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2010, 03:42:12 pm »

Oh, see now.  You're not asking for items to be moved downwards, but sideways based on ramp "direction."
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Thanshin

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Re: Water covered ramps move objects to the lower ground.
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2010, 02:24:04 am »

Oh, see now.  You're not asking for items to be moved downwards, but sideways based on ramp "direction."

To the same effect, essentially.

With just that, we could build:
- water chutes to throw items down multiple levels in any direction.
- Ramp to hole traps.
- Entry ramps that are "open" or "closed" by releasing a small amount of water over them.
- One way corridors...

hmm.

Now that I think on it, there's a pathing problem with this. Would dwarves understand they can't possibly walk up the ramp as it's being covered in water?
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DarthCloakedDwarf

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Re: Water covered ramps move objects to the lower ground.
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2010, 04:14:53 am »

I think you'd probably get Urist McPhysics cancels Task: Dangerous Terrain.
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Draco18s

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Re: Water covered ramps move objects to the lower ground.
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2010, 09:09:01 am »

Oh, see now.  You're not asking for items to be moved downwards, but sideways based on ramp "direction."

To the same effect, essentially.

Not really, as items already fall down ramps (and end in the same tile square as the Upward Ramp portion).  Moving sideways would be new.
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Thanshin

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Re: Water covered ramps move objects to the lower ground.
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2010, 10:28:29 am »

I think you'd probably get Urist McPhysics cancels Task: Dangerous Terrain.

They do know to avoid the water covered path but then the problem would be to make them jump on the ramp to go down.

Hmm. That wouldn't really be bad. Let the water covered ramps be considered dangerous terrain and all problems are solved by just eliminating the possibility of using water-ramps as one way paths (unless you activate them while the dwarf is already inside).


Not really, as items already fall down ramps (and end in the same tile square as the Upward Ramp portion).  Moving sideways would be new.

Yes. What I meant was that it's the same to consider it a vertical fall plus lateral push, or a diagonal fall.
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Draco18s

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Re: Water covered ramps move objects to the lower ground.
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2010, 02:08:33 pm »

Yes. What I meant was that it's the same to consider it a vertical fall plus lateral push, or a diagonal fall.

Correct, however, you worded that several times (at least twice) as "making objects fall down" not "making them move laterally" and one of those times you tried to insist that it was the same thing.
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