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Re: Dictionary pulled from school shelves as "sexually graphic"
« Reply #75 on: January 27, 2010, 11:54:24 pm »

Funny, my health class specifically said not to wear two condoms at one time. I guess they came prepared for derptards. Of course, the fact that they needed to say that...

Anyway, anything the government tries to teach you about morality that isn't extraordinarily black and white (IE- slavery is bad) turns into propaganda drivel, often diluted with other things, even when it's really good morals to follow.
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Re: Dictionary pulled from school shelves as "sexually graphic"
« Reply #76 on: January 28, 2010, 12:20:33 am »

Are you implying that slavery isn't a black and white issue?

I mean, yeah, we've got the sex perverts, but I still think it's not a hugely gray area, morally.
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Re: Dictionary pulled from school shelves as "sexually graphic"
« Reply #77 on: January 28, 2010, 12:25:27 am »

Are you implying that slavery isn't a black and white issue?

I mean, yeah, we've got the sex perverts, but I still think it's not a hugely gray area, morally.

Why do you have pictures of Hank Hill surrounding the Sex Perverts?
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Re: Dictionary pulled from school shelves as "sexually graphic"
« Reply #78 on: January 28, 2010, 12:28:55 am »

Are you implying that slavery isn't a black and white issue?

Pun intended?

Also, your hotlinks aren't working.  To illustrate: 
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Re: Dictionary pulled from school shelves as "sexually graphic"
« Reply #79 on: January 28, 2010, 12:41:47 am »

I thought using two condoms was an excellent way to decrease the stimulation of the penis, and hopefully help train oneself in avoiding premature ejaculation during the act. Of course, that involved one condom being placed as normal, then the second condom being placed only halfway down the shaft.
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Re: Dictionary pulled from school shelves as "sexually graphic"
« Reply #80 on: January 28, 2010, 12:46:11 am »

I think that "protecting" children from knowledge is an ill-conceived idea. If you are going to attempt anything of the sort, you should be required to first show that harm is in fact caused by the thing you are trying to "protect" them from.

As this has not been done, we should not censor such things.

I'm going to provide a personal anecdote.  When I was 5 or so, I saw a news special on how children got their feet caught in escalators and had to have them amputated.

I'm still terrified of escalators.  I'm one of those people you can see wearing a heavy backpack and still running a suitcase half his size (full of books, I might add) up four flights of stairs.  I can officially tell you that that particular piece of knowledge was to my detriment.  Might have been a good idea for my mother to keep me from watching the evening news all the time, no?

And no, it's not like being aware about the Danger of Escalators was helpful/neutral.  It mostly led to me being a pile of paranoia.


How about exposing children to violence in media?  Is that a good thing?  Should we allow harlequin romances (or French novels like L'Etranger [The Stranger], if you're looking for something a bit more highbrow) on first-graders' bookshelves, for those who are capable of reading them?

Simply put, they're age-inappropriate.  If I had a kid, I wouldn't let her anywhere near that sort of shit until I knew she could handle it.  That's right--little Victoria isn't allowed to read novels with graphic sex or violence until I've figured out whether or not she's as crazy as I was at that age.
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Re: Dictionary pulled from school shelves as "sexually graphic"
« Reply #81 on: January 28, 2010, 12:57:58 am »

Funny, my health class specifically said not to wear two condoms at one time. I guess they came prepared for derptards. Of course, the fact that they needed to say that...

Sex ed isn't something people are born knowing. When people are left to their similarly-aged friends and other devices to figure it out, they learn some really ridiculous things.

Double-bagging it is a fairly common misconception, and I can see how. Yeah, if you know things about what's physically going on there, you'd know it's silly, but again, people aren't born knowing this stuff.
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Re: Dictionary pulled from school shelves as "sexually graphic"
« Reply #82 on: January 28, 2010, 06:55:53 am »

Censorship is proper when it comes to children. There's an opposite side here in the news where 3 schoolboys had oral sex with each each other after finding out what it was.


How is that a bad thing exactly

Explain to me without using emotional appeals and also keep in mind that it's not uncommon for kids to sexually experiment even before hitting puberty

Did I mention they did it in class? Well, it counts as public schoolkid sex then. I'm sure you'd agree that child pornography is a bad thing. Apparently, nobody taught them that it's not good to have oral sex in public. The problem was that the parents of one of the kids left some homosexual porn around the house, and the kid thought it was a normal thing.

I also know another kid who gave oral sex to a girl in elementary school. Both of them didn't know that there was anything wrong with it, but now both of them are horribly embarrassed about it and wish it never happened.

Sex ed is an iffy thing. If you give it to people too young, they either get curious or grossed out and the message doesn't get across amid the laughing and drooling. Curiosity is fine, as long as it doesn't lead into something you'll regret later. You give it too old, then it's too late.

Kids love imitating everything. Just keep sex and violence away from them, and give it to them when they're old enough to be rebellious.
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Re: Dictionary pulled from school shelves as "sexually graphic"
« Reply #83 on: January 28, 2010, 07:16:22 am »

How about exposing children to violence in media?  Is that a good thing?
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Simply put, they're age-inappropriate.

Yes because we've all seen how well the wide spread reduction in violent, and other 'inappropriate' media and the global epidemic of stopping kids actually facing anything remotely likely to harm them at all has made the youth of society so well adjusted and responsible....
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Re: Dictionary pulled from school shelves as "sexually graphic"
« Reply #84 on: January 28, 2010, 07:56:05 am »

Censorship is proper when it comes to children. There's an opposite side here in the news where 3 schoolboys had oral sex with each each other after finding out what it was.


How is that a bad thing exactly

Explain to me without using emotional appeals and also keep in mind that it's not uncommon for kids to sexually experiment even before hitting puberty

Did I mention they did it in class? Well, it counts as public schoolkid sex then. I'm sure you'd agree that child pornography is a bad thing. Apparently, nobody taught them that it's not good to have oral sex in public. The problem was that the parents of one of the kids left some homosexual porn around the house, and the kid thought it was a normal thing.

I also know another kid who gave oral sex to a girl in elementary school. Both of them didn't know that there was anything wrong with it, but now both of them are horribly embarrassed about it and wish it never happened.

Sex ed is an iffy thing. If you give it to people too young, they either get curious or grossed out and the message doesn't get across amid the laughing and drooling. Curiosity is fine, as long as it doesn't lead into something you'll regret later. You give it too old, then it's too late.

Kids love imitating everything. Just keep sex and violence away from them, and give it to them when they're old enough to be rebellious.

That, I take issue with, as I  believe homosexuality to be a perfectly natural thing. The rest I'm fine about, but at the same time the parents need to be more careful.
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Re: Dictionary pulled from school shelves as "sexually graphic"
« Reply #85 on: January 28, 2010, 08:26:13 am »

Gee sometimes I don't get people...
Whats funny as hell in my 'books' is that its mostly Catholics and Christian folk that make the biggest deal about everything like this, but they ignore the fact that that little black book in everyones bedside table contains Sex, Incest, Murder, Genocide, Racism, Abuse, Adultery and other no nos that they are removing other books from School and Public Libraries for...

Oh and if you don't get which book I am talking about, its The Bible...
Mind you I have nothing against people and their views, I just don't like them being forced onto myself without my say so...
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Re: Dictionary pulled from school shelves as "sexually graphic"
« Reply #86 on: January 28, 2010, 09:33:02 am »

edit: Though I don't agree with most of what's in the Bible, 1. this is true. 2. there's a passage I can quote that points out that no, wisdom is not perfectly correlated with age.
Simply put, they're age-inappropriate.  If I had a kid, I wouldn't let her anywhere near that sort of shit until I knew she could handle it. 
These two sentences do not refer to the same quality.

Also note how people in this very topic are trying to push their own views by pushing this "protect from harm" mechanism on certain things.
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Re: Dictionary pulled from school shelves as "sexually graphic"
« Reply #87 on: January 28, 2010, 09:44:25 am »

Censorship is proper when it comes to children. There's an opposite side here in the news where 3 schoolboys had oral sex with each each other after finding out what it was.


How is that a bad thing exactly

Explain to me without using emotional appeals and also keep in mind that it's not uncommon for kids to sexually experiment even before hitting puberty

Did I mention they did it in class? Well, it counts as public schoolkid sex then. I'm sure you'd agree that child pornography is a bad thing. Apparently, nobody taught them that it's not good to have oral sex in public. The problem was that the parents of one of the kids left some homosexual porn around the house, and the kid thought it was a normal thing.

I also know another kid who gave oral sex to a girl in elementary school. Both of them didn't know that there was anything wrong with it, but now both of them are horribly embarrassed about it and wish it never happened.

Sex ed is an iffy thing. If you give it to people too young, they either get curious or grossed out and the message doesn't get across amid the laughing and drooling. Curiosity is fine, as long as it doesn't lead into something you'll regret later. You give it too old, then it's too late.

Kids love imitating everything. Just keep sex and violence away from them, and give it to them when they're old enough to be rebellious.

That, I take issue with, as I  believe homosexuality to be a perfectly natural thing. The rest I'm fine about, but at the same time the parents need to be more careful.

Lol, worded that wrong. I didn't mean homosexualism was abnormal. I meant that doing it in class in front of people is.
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Re: Dictionary pulled from school shelves as "sexually graphic"
« Reply #88 on: January 28, 2010, 09:45:15 am »

Stuck up people should homeschool their kids, not ruin education for everyone's kids.
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Re: Dictionary pulled from school shelves as "sexually graphic"
« Reply #89 on: January 28, 2010, 09:51:04 am »

Stuck up people should homeschool their kids, not ruin education for everyone's kids.

why should they be allowed to mentally cripple their own kids either ;)
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