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Re: Dictionary pulled from school shelves as "sexually graphic"
« Reply #195 on: January 31, 2010, 12:30:17 pm »

For example, comparing them to their mother.
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Re: Dictionary pulled from school shelves as "sexually graphic"
« Reply #196 on: January 31, 2010, 12:31:34 pm »

I thought the professional scrabble players used the Oxford English? I seem to recall watching a program on it, you wouldn't believe how many 2 letter words are acceptable.
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Re: Dictionary pulled from school shelves as "sexually graphic"
« Reply #197 on: January 31, 2010, 12:35:13 pm »

Jreengus: I dunno. I believe they use the Tournament Word List, which was created when said dictionary was released, and, unlike it, contains the 'offensive' words. (There're multiple 'official' sources, and I'm not a tournament Scrabble player...so I can't really say.)
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Re: Dictionary pulled from school shelves as "sexually graphic"
« Reply #198 on: January 31, 2010, 03:19:26 pm »

Whole new can of worms right there...or two. First is too off-topic.

As for Scrabble words, words are words. Whether something is a word is something that affects play and scoring and strategy. The only explicitly-excluded words by the rules are "capitalized words, words marked as foreign, abbreviations, or words requiring an apostrophe or hyphen".

Yes, I know.  It was removed for the DSM-IV >_>

Additionally... I believe that "lezzy" is an abbreviation for "lesbian," so there you go.  And yes, I meant "discrimination and acceptance" (or perhaps "treatment of lesbianism by society," if that removes the diction issue).  None of that crap they tried to pull with Turing.
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Re: Dictionary pulled from school shelves as "sexually graphic"
« Reply #199 on: January 31, 2010, 03:30:00 pm »

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Re: Dictionary pulled from school shelves as "sexually graphic"
« Reply #200 on: January 31, 2010, 03:31:31 pm »

And honestly, if the thought of keeping books with sexual content away from young kids bothers you, you probably need to take a deep breath, put LCS down, and realize that, even on Bay12, there is a such thing as being too liberal.
Wait, bay12 is liberal? Seems pretty conservative compared to what I'm used to.
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Re: Dictionary pulled from school shelves as "sexually graphic"
« Reply #201 on: January 31, 2010, 04:40:54 pm »

Yes, I know.  It was removed for the DSM-IV >_>

Additionally... I believe that "lezzy" is an abbreviation for "lesbian," so there you go.  And yes, I meant "discrimination and acceptance" (or perhaps "treatment of lesbianism by society," if that removes the diction issue).  None of that crap they tried to pull with Turing.
Uh... dunno what you mean with Turing.  I mean, I know he wasn't accepted (with tragic results) but I'm not sure what it has to do with the issue at hand.
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« Reply #202 on: January 31, 2010, 07:37:31 pm »

I would find myself more as liberal, but probably separate enough from them to almost be called utopian.

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Re: Dictionary pulled from school shelves as "sexually graphic"
« Reply #203 on: January 31, 2010, 07:46:50 pm »

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Uh... dunno what you mean with Turing.  I mean, I know he wasn't accepted (with tragic results) but I'm not sure what it has to do with the issue at hand.

The state attempted to "treat" Turing for homosexuality, is what I mean.  I don't mean treatment as in "use of hormones to attempt to make someone non-gay."  I mean treatment as in "the interactions between an individual and society; e.g., 'She constantly mocked him and treated him poorly.'"
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Re: Dictionary pulled from school shelves as "sexually graphic"
« Reply #204 on: January 31, 2010, 07:59:06 pm »

The issue was with people going through the DSM and going "I have this, and this, and this" when they didn't.

...I no longer know what you're trying to say here as "treatment"- they prosecuted him for homosexuality, which was illegal in the UK at the time, and found him guilty, and he went with "chemical castration" instead of imprisonment.

...going with "treat" as in "they treated him like a criminal"?
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Re: Dictionary pulled from school shelves as "sexually graphic"
« Reply #205 on: January 31, 2010, 08:18:37 pm »

The issue was with people going through the DSM and going "I have this, and this, and this" when they didn't.

...I no longer know what you're trying to say here as "treatment"- they prosecuted him for homosexuality, which was illegal in the UK at the time, and found him guilty, and he went with "chemical castration" instead of imprisonment.

...going with "treat" as in "they treated him like a criminal"?
Er, no.  He went with a cyanide laced apple.
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Re: Dictionary pulled from school shelves as "sexually graphic"
« Reply #206 on: January 31, 2010, 08:26:09 pm »

I'm aware.
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Re: Dictionary pulled from school shelves as "sexually graphic"
« Reply #207 on: January 31, 2010, 08:26:38 pm »

The issue was with people going through the DSM and going "I have this, and this, and this" when they didn't.

...I no longer know what you're trying to say here as "treatment"- they prosecuted him for homosexuality, which was illegal in the UK at the time, and found him guilty, and he went with "chemical castration" instead of imprisonment.

...going with "treat" as in "they treated him like a criminal"?

Yes, well... people shouldn't do it, but they do.  I'd rather have them using it as a diagnostic device than hearsay from the internet ("moodswings = bipolar, right?  Quiet, good at science, and can't get a date = autism, right?").  It's easier to prove somebody wrong if they're using the correct terminology.



Chemical castration -> reduction of sexual behavior -> "treatment" of homosexuality

Much as

Throat spray -> reduction of pain -> "treatment" of sore throat.
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Re: Dictionary pulled from school shelves as "sexually graphic"
« Reply #208 on: January 31, 2010, 08:29:45 pm »

The issue was with people going through the DSM and going "I have this, and this, and this" when they didn't.

...I no longer know what you're trying to say here as "treatment"- they prosecuted him for homosexuality, which was illegal in the UK at the time, and found him guilty, and he went with "chemical castration" instead of imprisonment.

...going with "treat" as in "they treated him like a criminal"?

Yes, well... people shouldn't do it, but they do.  I'd rather have them using it as a diagnostic device than hearsay from the internet ("moodswings = bipolar, right?  Quiet, good at science, and can't get a date = autism, right?").  It's easier to prove somebody wrong if they're using the correct terminology.



Chemical castration -> reduction of sexual behavior -> "treatment" of homosexuality

Much as

Throat spray -> reduction of pain -> "treatment" of sore throat.
That's not right.
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Re: Dictionary pulled from school shelves as "sexually graphic"
« Reply #209 on: January 31, 2010, 08:30:18 pm »

The state attempted to "treat" Turing for homosexuality, is what I mean.  I don't mean treatment as in "use of hormones to attempt to make someone non-gay."  I mean treatment as in "the interactions between an individual and society; e.g., 'She constantly mocked him and treated him poorly.'"
Chemical castration (by hormone therapy)-> reduction of sexual behavior -> "treatment" of homosexuality
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I thought the professional scrabble players used the Oxford English? I seem to recall watching a program on it, you wouldn't believe how many 2 letter words are acceptable.
the OED would allow for silly quantities of spellings.
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