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[Asehujiko]

Spoilery question:

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Why is there an achievement for completing the final mission with no deaths when the people who die do so under completely unexpected and arbitrary circumstances with no warning whatsoever?

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They die unexpectedly only if they're not loyal or you pick them for the wrong job.

So, in my case for example, Jack died because I chose her to be the solo diversion instead of someone seemingly more appropriate like Grunt (due to his high health and regen), and Miranda died defending the position because she wasn't totally loyal.

Although who exactly goes where best is just a guess. Tali did fine as the tech, Garrus did well as the fireteam leader, Samara worked good as the shielder, can't remember who I had as the survivor escort, possibly Tali.

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So Tali is actually bad at running through a pipe and Legion can't lead worth shit? Morith led my first alternate squad and did fine and Jack held the shields with no trouble. i didn't do the crew escort though.

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Actually, Tali should do fine going through the pipe. Maybe she wasn't loyal and was just normal? Note that arguments between crew members will lower the loyalty of one of them if you side with the other (rather than using a paragon/renegade choice).

And I'd imagine a hivemind geth would be pretty bad at leading a group of people.

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Tali was loyal. Another person on another forum said she died because of a bad fire team leader, which i picked Morinth for the first time. So who the hell IS good at leading?

[Virtz]

Spoilery question:

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Why is there an achievement for completing the final mission with no deaths when the people who die do so under completely unexpected and arbitrary circumstances with no warning whatsoever?

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They die unexpectedly only if they're not loyal or you pick them for the wrong job.

So, in my case for example, Jack died because I chose her to be the solo diversion instead of someone seemingly more appropriate like Grunt (due to his high health and regen), and Miranda died defending the position because she wasn't totally loyal.

Although who exactly goes where best is just a guess. Tali did fine as the tech, Garrus did well as the fireteam leader, Samara worked good as the shielder, can't remember who I had as the survivor escort, possibly Tali.

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So Tali is actually bad at running through a pipe and Legion can't lead worth shit? Morith led my first alternate squad and did fine and Jack held the shields with no trouble. i didn't do the crew escort though.

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Actually, Tali should do fine going through the pipe. Maybe she wasn't loyal and was just normal? Note that arguments between crew members will lower the loyalty of one of them if you side with the other (rather than using a paragon/renegade choice).

And I'd imagine a hivemind geth would be pretty bad at leading a group of people.

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Tali was loyal. Another person on another forum said she died because of a bad fire team leader, which i picked Morinth for the first time. So who the hell IS good at leading?

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Garrus worked for me. I picked him because he had a team fighting the mercs in between the two Mass Effects before he ended up cornered.

Also, this is just a guess, but maybe you opened the further passages too late? Tali does mention that it heats up in those pipes, so maybe it needs to be done fast? But then I'm not sure how she died in your playthrough, so maybe not.

[Pillow_Killer]

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I did that:
Specialist: Tali: She's a good tech.
Fireteam leader 1: Garrus.He's an experienced C-Sec, led his own mercenary band
My team 1: Mordin and Jacob
WARNING: If the fireteam leader not loyal, the person in pipes WILL Die. Confirmed by three playthroughs.
Shield: Samara. Miranda is dumb. Ignore her babbling, and only pick samara, the strongest biotic in the team.
Escort: Mordin works best for me: He's pisspoor weak, and You better keep him away.
Leader2: Garrus again
My team 2: Thane and Jacob
Make sure that for the second team, both members are loyal. I did some save-load, only to find out that non-loyal members always die in the final fight, no matter what.

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Garrus worked for me. I picked him because he had a team fighting the mercs in between the two Mass Effects before he ended up cornered.

Also, this is just a guess, but maybe you opened the further passages too late? Tali does mention that it heats up in those pipes, so maybe it needs to be done fast? But then I'm not sure how she died in your playthrough, so maybe not.

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That's right. If you keep the specialist waiting too long, He will die of heat eventually: He complains over radio about this. On the other hand, opening pipes to fast does nothing. I got that collector's rifle, and basically rushed past the enemies, giving away free cryo headshot. Combined with heightened adrenaline rush, it was a cakewalk. I opened all the eight valves in a matter of less than a minute, never taking a single cover. Specialist didn't have a  chance to ask for a valve to be opened

[Pillow_Killer]

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other funny thing - trip with geth to citadel, NOBODY seemed to care, lol.

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 Geth do not intentionally infiltrate.

[Djohaal]

My thoughts on ME2...

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First... too many boobs... is it me or samara's boobs arrive in battle one hour before her? Not to mention that dialogue where miranda's butt is staring at your camera intentionally... I think there's way more sex appeal in this game than it is called for.
Secondarially and also on the sexuality issue, I'm very bothered by the fact that character development is stalled by the "have sex with me or not" option. Most characters of the opposite sex stop developing unless you have a romantic relationship with them.
Same sex relationships are also absent (unlike in DAO), however seeing as shepard's speeches were pre-recorded and you actually listen to him/her talking, I can't really picture their personality being gay, it just doesn't fit the coherence at all. Your same-sex buddies also artificially stop developing for no reason (garrus for instance). So far the most interesting characters in my opinion were Samara and Legion, seeing as they don't ask you to have sex with them.
Not that I'm against the whole implementaiton of sex and romance. The development of a relationship between my shepard and tali was interesting to watch, and their "romance" cutscene wasn't sexual at all, (very fortunately) way less polygon porn than dragon age, for sure...
Another thing that bothered me deeply is the paragon/renegade-o-meter. Having certain interactions locked out because you aren't hero or zero enough to use them is surely annoyning. I prefered DAO where you just had the "conversation" skill and it unlocked alternatives, both good and evil, it allowed for many more shades of gray. (what are paragon shepard's speeches anyway other than good rethorics?)
Now I'm gonna do a playthrough with a female renegade shepard to see the differences. 

[inteuniso]

Is it just me, or did anyone else

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Save the station? I couldn't let all those tens of thousands of colonists have died in vain.

[debvon]

Is it just me, or did anyone else

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Save the station? I couldn't let all those tens of thousands of colonists have died in vain.

I didn't. The idea of

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reaper technology being used for human interests

didn't sit well with me. Humans vs. Galaxy, anybody? No thanks. I don't trust The Illusive Man.

[Sensei]

I love how the (somewhat vague) hint of your save file affecting ME3 is making people take their choices more seriously. It seems to add weight to the choices, without cheesy-feeling instant rewards for being good or whatever.

[Farce]

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I didn't save the station, on the basis that if Reapers get made there ('sup giant spoilers, hope you actually finished the game reader) there's probably some sort of indoctrination effect going on there, no?


Though, the crew didn't seem affected.  But maybe they weren't there long enough.  Either way, I suspected a corruption aura.


Super-tech was pretty tempting though.  It took me a bit to make the decision.  Samara's post mission input made me feel better with the decision - that tech would totally have stabbed us in the back.

[Asehujiko]

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I interpreted that choice as "do you want a miniature reaper party member in ME3?"

...And answered HELL YEAH!

[Ampersand]

This contains spoilers.



Did anyone else notice that this game is terrible? At the end of Mass Effect 1, I just felt like we were building up to the point where we finally uncovered the secret behind everything, and that now the real story could start.

Mass Effect 2 felt like an old friend inviting me outside to show me something awesome, gesturing to something in his car, then climbing into his car, and driving away, promising to show me tomorrow, leaving me standing outside in my pajamas beside the road, in the rain, looking like an idiot.

That's not to say that Mass Effect 1 didn't feel almost exactly the same way, but at least it had a climax.

I mean, ME2, you spend the entire game running around doing things for people you've known for five minutes to solve their personal problems, then get thrown into a situation you can't return from to fight a monster you've never seen or heard of before, that has only the most tenuous relationship to the actual story, because that worked so well for Borderlands, I guess.

Then there are the totally random inconsistencies all over the place. In the beginning Shepard comments that he's still a Spectre, and can still get resources from the Citadel Council, but somehow, in another scene he calls himself a Former Spectre, despite no information being passed to him that would indicate that he's been kicked out. I didn't even know you could be kicked out. I mean, Saren was a Spectre through the whole course of Mass Effect 1, now wasn't he?

The whole game just feels so unfinished. Smaller than it was intended to be. I felt like the final boss was the half way point.

It feels like Knights of the Old Republic 2.

[Farce]

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I interpreted that choice as "do you want a miniature reaper party member in ME3?"

...And answered HELL YEAH!

OH MY GOD, YOU'RE RIGHT.

What have I done?  I have ruined ME3 for myself.


Have I griped yet that I liked 1's longer, fewer missions?  The short little strikes don't feel as epic as sneaking through whole installations and whatnot, all the while investigating and such and such.

[inteuniso]

Mass Effect 2 felt like an old friend inviting me outside to show me something awesome, gesturing to something in his car, then climbing into his car, and driving away, promising to show me tomorrow, leaving me standing outside in my pajamas beside the road, in the rain, looking like an
Then there are the totally random inconsistencies all over the place. In the beginning Shepard comments that he's still a Spectre, and can still get resources from the Citadel Council, but somehow, in another scene he calls himself a Former Spectre, despite no information being passed to him that would indicate that he's been kicked out. I didn't even know you could be kicked out. I mean, Saren was a Spectre through the whole course of Mass Effect 1, now wasn't he?

Well,

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if you die

you pretty much do get kicked out. Then, you

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can get reinstated as a spectre, but you don't really hold any power.

Anyways, I do agree that the final boss was utter weaksauce. The whole game, building up to this, and then you take him out by literally shooting the shit out of it. No big chase scene, no kick-ass explosions and gut-wrenching death, just a bunch of shooting and fin.

However, the ending cutscene

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where you see ALL THE REAPERS HEADING TOWARDS THE MILKY WAY galaxy, had a feeling of oh-shitness this is a cliffhangar. So I felt good after saving the station. Not going to be able to save the galaxy from that fleet without a gun big enough to match theirs.

satisfied me somewhat. I do agree that ME1 had a great ending. This had a bit of a Halo 2 ending.

Also, there wasn't exactly that much of a carry-through from ME1 to ME2 now that I think about it. Sure, your choices are mentioned, and people you... affected are brought back, but other than that, it's pretty much an entirely new game.

For ME3, I want a carry-through from the old game, with all my old equipment, the ability to get a shitload of armor again (I hate the fact that Shepard can't buy heavy/light armor anymore), and a wrapping up of the entire trilogy. Preferably including the entire team you have assembled from previous games and ME3, so you have an entire army of awesome.

[3]

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It's worth mentioning how little impact ME2's plot actually has on the situation: the entire thing is basically just a diversion - the final cutscene suddenly cuts to the Reapers attempting to encroach on the galaxy as if somebody in the writing department forgot about the actual point of what you're supposed to be doing for the entire game, suddenly remembered the overall scope of the story, and decided to just tack something on the very end to make it look as if they'd remembered all along.

At least in the first game you killed one Reaper: One, yes, but you've proven that it's possible to fight them. In ME2 you don't do jack squat. The Reapers are still there, in their entirety, still in the same situation (and no, I do not consider that thing at the end of the game a Reaper) - it's almost as if Bioware are attempting to bridge the gap between ME1 and ME3 for some inane reason, possibly to stop discouraging people by forcing them to play through all three games if they're had no prior experience with the series.

Also, I very much doubt I'm the only one who feels that the finale will come down to something immensely cliché - how'll it be possible to kill all the Reapers

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(in the scope of one game, no less)

? Mass-biotic (read: psychic) linking? Virus? Kill the mothership? Drill a hole into one and put a nuke in it?

They did a worse job of the Paragon/Renegade system in this one, as well: In the first game I could get points for sharing a point of view in a largely irrelevant situation; in this one I get points for logical deduction and interpreting the situation correctly. It just doesn't make any sense.

tl;dr I feel the same way as Ampersand for the most part, at least as far as direction goes.

[Zironic]

When playing this game, I get a total dirty dozen feel.