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------ Haiku, the encore -----

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[Soulwynd]

[Roundabout Lout]

I'm beginning to think that there's a conspiracy amongst various game companies to try and kill PC gaming, so that they can just pump out shitty console game after shitty console game without recourse.

[JoshuaFH]

This whole piracy business all seemed kind of silly to me. Let's see if I have it right:

Videogame companies try to make money selling videogames

People don't like spending money on games

People with programming knowledge go out of their way, free of charge, to crack a game, and then will allow thousands upon thousands of complete strangers to download his cracked copy, also free of charge, in order to spite the gaming companies?

DRM fiasco ensues.

[Ioric Kittencuddler]

I'm beginning to think that there's a conspiracy amongst various game companies to try and kill PC gaming, so that they can just pump out shitty console game after shitty console game without recourse.

That's what they want you to think!

[Draco18s]

People with programming knowledge go out of their way, free of charge, to crack a game, and then will allow thousands upon thousands of complete strangers to download his cracked copy, also free of charge, in order to spite the gaming companies?

Yes.  They do.

[Micro102]

Couldn't they bypass pirating by having a game that can only be ran by accessing a server?

[Cthulhu]

I'm pretty sure that's what they're doing with Ubisoft's newest games.

Of course, it'll be cracked within a week.

[Draco18s]

Couldn't they bypass pirating by having a game that can only be ran by accessing a server?

Yes:

I'm pretty sure that's what they're doing with Ubisoft's newest games.

Of course, it'll be cracked within a week.

And of course they will.  All you have to do is spoof the client into thinking its communicating with the server when it is in fact not.

[Soulwynd]

Couldn't they bypass pirating by having a game that can only be ran by accessing a server?

That's what Assassin's creed 2 is doing and it's not going to work.

It works for things like MMOs however, to an extend, as they are supposed to be online games and you make an account to play. For single player games? Not so much.

I'm pretty sure that's what they're doing with Ubisoft's newest games.

Of course, it'll be cracked within a week.

You mean day. It will probably be cracked before release. The same thing was done with Mirror's edge, except they stepped into a crack detection issue and it took them a bit longer to deliver a fully working crack. A few days after the initial crack.

[G-Flex]

Couldn't they bypass pirating by having a game that can only be ran by accessing a server?

Because everybody loves time-bomb software that will never work again if they ever stop service, and games that fail to work if your internet connection is down.

[JoshuaFH]

Couldn't they bypass pirating by having a game that can only be ran by accessing a server?

That's what Assassin's creed 2 is doing and it's not going to work.

It works for things like MMOs however, to an extend, as they are supposed to be online games and you make an account to play. For single player games? Not so much.

I'm pretty sure that's what they're doing with Ubisoft's newest games.

Of course, it'll be cracked within a week.

You mean day. It will probably be cracked before release. The same thing was done with Mirror's edge, except they stepped into a crack detection issue and it took them a bit longer to deliver a fully working crack. A few days after the initial crack.

That's something that mystifies me though, how do they crack a game that nobody has yet?

[Soulwynd]

They usually get a copy from people inside gaming stores.

[sproingie]

You know when I like to play single player games?  When my internet is down.  Even Steam can cache my credentials.

*shrug*.  Oh well, I guess someone else gets my money.

[Draco18s]

Couldn't they bypass pirating by having a game that can only be ran by accessing a server?

Because everybody loves time-bomb software that will never work again if they ever stop service, and games that fail to work if your internet connection is down.

You mean like Hellgate London?

[Micro102]

Well i was going to say have the server they connect to also give a vital part of the code to play the game but after that they could probably do something to get something to something the game into something.


......seems developers now have no choice but to pour tons of money into servers for MMO's 

Which would be quite nice....I'd love to play a full on war game like stronghold where everyone has individual roles. Or a zombie game where there is a VERY large map with several cities and room for more stuff and the zombies and humans try to drive each other out and there is a way to win and there is permadeath (in the sense that you start over with new stats)