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This only gave grief

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Grakelin is not stupid

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Are you happier now?

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------ Haiku, the encore -----

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Why you make a fuzz 'bout it?

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Lets just be happy

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Total Members Voted: 48

[Draco18s]

I used the example of killing people because, in almost every situation killing people is regarded as a bad thing, and killing ten people is regarded as a worse thing than killing one person.

THat brings up the question of whether terms like good and evil can be applied to people. I personally see it as somewhat of a failing of the english language that "evil person" and "evil action" do not have independent words to describe them.

And then there is war.  Killing enemy soldiers is OK in war time, isn't it?

After all, they're treated as heros and not murderers when they come home...

There is no way to decide what is "evil" and what isn't from an absolutist standpoint.

Try taking a look at this comic strip.

[Soulwynd]

If i get shot in the leg i should drop to the ground and hardly be able to get up.

One-bullet-kills are very realistic, but not fun to play in a game.

The fuck they're not fun. Go play Op7, it's horribly addictive. One shot kill on the head, no matter your weapon.

[Draco18s]

If i get shot in the leg i should drop to the ground and hardly be able to get up.

One-bullet-kills are very realistic, but not fun to play in a game.

The fuck they're not fun. Go play Op7, it's horribly addictive. One shot kill on the head, no matter your weapon.

For killing enemies, or for enemies killing you?

[Soulwynd]

If i get shot in the leg i should drop to the ground and hardly be able to get up.

One-bullet-kills are very realistic, but not fun to play in a game.

The fuck they're not fun. Go play Op7, it's horribly addictive. One shot kill on the head, no matter your weapon.

For killing enemies, or for enemies killing you?

Both. It's a multiplayer online FPS.

[Strange guy]

While realistic damage can be fun, reality isn't exactly designed for fun and balance so other ways of handling damage should be the main ones in most games, though I'm not sure I agree with the regenerating health that is so popular right now (I think it only works in some single player games or multi-player with high lethality really).

Anyway it is possible for some games to have realism and others not too so I'm not sure why this is ever considered something to argue over.

[DrunkDorfPally]

Other:  Lackluster/sucky/nonexistent script/voiceacting.  XP

[Draco18s]

Other:  Lackluster/sucky/nonexistent script/voiceacting.  XP

Oh, and if you're going to model a character's eyeballs, don't make them stare blankly off into space (the edge of the screen) when you talk to them, it only makes the poor voice acting worse.

[Roundabout Lout]

I wanted to play Oddworld: Stranger's Wrath, and bought the PC version.

Should have checked what people were saying about it, it's apparently a direct port from the original Xbox, and it shows with terrible framerate, random crashes, control problems etc.

Not that I have any idea, Steam says the game is unavailable to play. I feel  like an idiot for buying it at all.

I HATE lazy ports like this, but it's all too common these days.

[MouzurX]

While realistic damage can be fun, reality isn't exactly designed for fun and balance so other ways of handling damage should be the main ones in most games, though I'm not sure I agree with the regenerating health that is so popular right now (I think it only works in some single player games or multi-player with high lethality really).

Anyway it is possible for some games to have realism and others not too so I'm not sure why this is ever considered something to argue over.

True but take a look at red orchestra 2, all reality-features that bring in fun and good gameplay

[Soulwynd]

I'm not sure I agree with the regenerating health that is so popular right now (I think it only works in some single player games or multi-player with high lethality really).

You cannot regenerate in Op7, nor in NeoTokyo. So I love those games. One life, make the best out of it.

[mendonca]

I remember playing Action Quake 2 - where you had just taken a bullet in the head, and you have, I don't know - a quarter of a second? your thinking 'Bandage! Bandage!' before you bleed out and have to watch the rest of the round from the sidelines. Good times.

[Erkki]

In reply to OP... yeah

Graphics above all. Making the games easy enough for the 11 year old coke addict to not need to give up after 5min.

And depending on the type of the game, the hack & slash, the near-epileptic pace. The "shooting gallery" and/or fixed events, and of course no builder after you've played it through.

I guess I'm one of those types who want to sit back with the coffee and enjoy the good chat while playing a game where how quick you click around doesnt matter. Some FPSes at time. Simulations too.

Like this, a 2009 game btw!


And extra points if you can do that with/against another human... I hope to, some day, see true multiplayer in DF too!

[Keita]

What game is that Erkki?

[Erkki]

Gary Grigsby's War in the Pacific, admiral's edition.

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tt.asp?forumid=528

Super addictive as a PBEM game.

[Keita]

If it is, I now have to dig into the time I use for college work XD