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kochanneo

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THE CHAINS, THEY WEIGH MY LITTLE LEGS DOWN SO!
« on: January 21, 2010, 10:20:48 am »

URIST MCTANTRUMTHROWER CANCELS STORE OWNED ITEM : ITEM INACCESSIBLE!1!

Seriously, this is driving me nuts. I'm at the tail end end of a tantrum spiral, all the noisy little dwarves are sleeping it off in my, (if I may say so myself) very nice little prison. Chains, beds, masterful engravings and their own personal food and booze stockpiles. All would be well, except they're SPAMMING me with "dwarf cancels store owned item : item inaccessible"

Most of these dwarves don't even own their own room, outside of the bed I've assigned for them next to their chain. Is there a way to make them stfu?
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Re: THE CHAINS, THEY WEIGH MY LITTLE LEGS DOWN SO!
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2010, 11:42:21 am »

You could change the settings to announce no job cancellations.  I believe it's
  • and then
  • as many times as you need to get to the right setting.


I usually play with no cancellations announced, by default.
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Re: THE CHAINS, THEY WEIGH MY LITTLE LEGS DOWN SO!
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2010, 12:11:20 pm »

Don't use square brackets to indicate commands. It...doesn't work very well. OP: he meant the (o)rders menu, and then you can set messaging controls from there. Of course, changing this will also mean that you won't get cancellation messages when e.g. your woodcutter is interrupted by an ambush.

I haven't personally had to deal with this issue, but I know it's been reported. One particularly egregious example was a dwarf trying to store the socks he inherited from his parent...who drowned in the middle of the lake. The player actually drained the lake just to stop the message spam.
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Re: THE CHAINS, THEY WEIGH MY LITTLE LEGS DOWN SO!
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2010, 02:07:58 pm »

 :D  I've used dtil to make a tiny volcano in an ocean in order to burn up socks that belonged to the drowned parent of a spamming child.
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Re: THE CHAINS, THEY WEIGH MY LITTLE LEGS DOWN SO!
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2010, 03:15:26 pm »

Wouldn't forbidding the clothes in question stop the spam regardless of their location?
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Re: THE CHAINS, THEY WEIGH MY LITTLE LEGS DOWN SO!
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2010, 04:25:43 pm »

Wouldn't forbidding the clothes in question stop the spam regardless of their location?

The magma approach works better.

Alternatively, dip the owner of the dirty socks into magma.
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« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2010, 04:51:36 pm »

The problem with killing the owner is that relatives may inherit his belongings, as noted in the lake example.
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« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2010, 05:12:03 pm »

But if he was killed with magma, all of his dirty socks will be destroyed, and thus no longer be available.
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« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2010, 08:34:20 pm »

Turning off cancellation notifcations did it, I was just hoping there was a better way, like a "make Urist destitute and donate all currently owned goods to the nobles" button.
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Re: THE CHAINS, THEY WEIGH MY LITTLE LEGS DOWN SO!
« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2010, 10:04:45 pm »

But if he was killed with magma, all of his dirty socks will be destroyed, and thus no longer be available.
You've slightly missed Derakon's point here.

Let's say Urist is the father of Rigoth, who in turn is the father of Tulon. Urist goes for a drink and a carp pulls him into the river where he drowns. His belongings, including the clothes he was wearing when he died, now belong to Rigoth. Rigoth, however, can't access those belongings because they're on the river bed, surrounded by murderous crap carp, thus we get a case of lots of spam because Rigoth wants to put those clothes away but can't access them. Killing Rigoth with magma does fuck all, as the clothes on the river bed will then belong to Tulon, who'll also begin creating message spam about being unable to access those items. To use magma to stop the spam would involve killing off an entire dwarf family, and there's a good chance of that resulting in a tantrum spiral.
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