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[Pandarsenic]

SirBayer could not have killed, I delayed him last night.

[ToonyMan]

Got power back, nothing has happened.

[Leafsnail]

Pandarsenic... in that case, isn't it odd that he claims to have SUCCESSFULLY USED AN ACTION then?

[Pandarsenic]

....

SirBayer.

[Vector]

... So, I don't trust Bayer, but I'm going to need to go back and do some rummaging to get anything clear.  That rummaging shall be done around now-ish.

[SirBayer]

Gee, Leafy, thanks for lining up lynches.

Yeah, I'm lining up lynches, just like the townie I got lynched yesterday.

I went from Super Mario to Mega Mario - lost the one-shot revive, gained a kill-immunity.

Right.  So, I have a question for you - why did you do this?  Why not just get the OS revive, wait until killed, then use your other mushrooms?  Oh wait, you randomly eat one every night... maybe?  Your roleclaim is just as vague as dorf's.  Are you really telling me you have a one in four chance of dying every night?  Plus -

I guess that I can't get another attribute until I use the one-shot revive, because I haven't changed since then.

So why did you change last night?

Has anyone actually tested any of my abilities? Why are you saying my claim is bad?

I'm saying it's vague and makes no sense as a role.

If you had been paying attention, Leafsnail, you would have noticed that Panda claimed to delay me Night 3. I did not change Night 3 because Panda delayed me.

Panda claims to have delayed me Night 4. I have changed roles nonetheless.

Leafy: I have absolutely ZERO control over my actions. They are automatic; I can't change them.

[Vector]

I'm getting pro-town vibes from Leafsnail, so far. He's active, aggressive and his claims seem on target. I wouldn't want to lose him.
That makes it even more funny, when someone like Neruz attacks him.

[...]

Zai is a tough nut. He's been active and aggressive, but has made that weird WIFOM accusation that I am not sure he even explained?
But we have weirder people to worry about, right now.

SirBayer, I will not even go into the scuminess of Neruz and you, and will just ask: is EK the only one you think is scum? Why did you back off (actually, I'm not sure that you even tried to attack) from Zai?

Neruz = scum
SirBayer = probably scum
ExKirby = could go either way
Zai = could go either way
Errol = could go either way
eduren = unable to read
MagmaDeath = unable to read
Pandarsenic = unable to read
Vector = probably town
Leafsnail = town

Sooooo.  Either dorf is doing a ridiculous speed-bus (doubted) or Bayer's town.  Further evidence below.

Why did Dorf hammer when it was obvious ERROL wasnt scum

Actually, you do make a good point.
unvote
Dorf Why did you hammer?

And vote Org when he questioned the hammer?

Toony's probably town.

ExKirby was scum, and now Org is. Makes perfect sense to me.

Massive Bayer buddying, right here.  I feel like you're trying to easy-lynch-hop.

Nope.

I like how you're trying really bloody hard to short-post for purpose of avoiding run-on sentences.  The part where you were inactive for pretty much all of yesterday due to "confusion" is also pretty goddamned hilarious.

This still stands.

I was never scum you tardbagel! OrgKirby has been acting consistently scummy! KILL. HIM.

You never brought this up until Lylo... convenient.  Before, it was just you sitting on the sideline and watching everything play out.  Kind of like in Second Chance II, hey?

SirBayer could not have killed, I delayed him last night.

Pandarsenic... in that case, isn't it odd that he claims to have SUCCESSFULLY USED AN ACTION then?

....

SirBayer.

This looks a hell of a lot like the end of NSBM1.

Here are the three posts in which I give reasoning for voting ExKirby. Please also note the fact that I am still the first vote on ExKirby.

So, ExKirby, you slipped. I have no idea how you managed that slip, nor how you expected anybody to believe it. Did you think that you could... discredit me? I have no idea. It doesn't make any sense, which is why it's so damn scummy. I can't imagine any way it furthers the town - or the scum, when it gets right down to it.

Why are we lynching Neruz for being bored when we should be lynching ExKirby for being Scum?!

Once again, Bayer doesn't look much like dorf's partner... I feel like the argument was entirely too large between them for a novice scumteam, and they didn't slip at all while they were doing it.  So I'm going to conclude that Bayer is likely town.

...Where were you expecting him to come from? He's a replacement. He had no choice but to come from nowhere.

In a similar vein...where is Pandar? Does he need a forced replace or something? Because he sure as hell needs a prod, at least.

1. Zai, where are you?  2. Possible connection to dorf; not too sure about this one.

Semantics are important. People reveal their thoughts in their words, y'know. That's what you do with words.

This is sidelining...

SirBayer.

I do not believe his attacks are sincere. There is much accusation and screaming, but over such odd things :s

[...]

I'm not getting anything from MD anyway :\

Dorf is still tunneling on Bayer.  Again, Bayer's probably town.

Unvote.
SirBayer, your scumminess knows no bound. You're going down.

Precise same flavor as the Neruz mislynch.

Uhuh.  Even though I'm voting for the same person you are, I must be "high or drunk".

Pandarsenic accuses Leafsnail of random crap....



So, in conclusion, I think we've got a Pandarsenic/Zai/Dorf scumteam.

[ToonyMan]

So either SirBayer or Pandarsenic is lying?

[Pandarsenic]

I didn't consider the possibility of Bayer's role being automatic, like how I make Sleeping Gods/Haruhis unblockable because they're not the actual source of the rules they activate. So...

Wait, a minute. Unvote. If he's an Ascetic I couldn't have delayed him.

I need to go over this more....

[Leafsnail]

Actually, Pandar, I reread, and it looks like you did delay him.  He failed to use an action N3 and had it delayed till N4.  I guess he'll probably use two tonight... his action is slightly different in nature to a Haruhi, since he actually does something, I guess.

Now, Vector makes some very, very good points.  It makes perfect sense for dorf to mark his partners as neutral during a read, and SB and dorf's fight didn't look too staged.  I guess I just got annoyed at his constant defending of dorf... but I suppose, if he was mafia, he probably would've just bussed him to make himself look more town.  Unvote.  Vote pandarsenic.  Role interactions shouldn't be damning, as dorf could've made up to 3 random people completely unable to action, and all these other powers flying around randomly could do stuff too.  SB also never said he became ascetic, and you don't seem to be attacking him for anything not role related.

I'm not so sure about Vector's case on Zai.  Hmm... vector, just out of interest, how many flowers yesterday, and to whom?

[Pandarsenic]

I thought Bayer was telling bold-faced lies about his role because he couldn't account for what he'd done each night, but I then realized it made sort-of-sense.

Also, Leafsnail, you're right. YOU claimed Bayer was an ascetic.

Ok, well, to start off with, SirBayer is obviously a mafia member.  Also, he claims to have a reviving ability, AND to be immune to night kills, AND ascetic by now.  Dumb.

MC time.  I boosted Vector even though I'm probably drunk, clumsy, random and naive by now.  Whatever.

Defend yourself. Why are you and Vector being so obvious?

[Vector]

I'm not so sure about Vector's case on Zai.  Hmm... vector, just out of interest, how many flowers yesterday, and to whom?

Two to Pandarsenic (thought he was town until I did my reread scanny thingy).  I'm guessing Zai because he hasn't showed up to say anything, not even "I'm ignoring this game."  I also didn't see much interaction between him and dorf/Pandarsenic, and he's been relentlessly attacking townies throughout the entire game.

Again: I don't know about him.  I think he's the last scumball, but I'm mostly working on a small body of information, the fact that he's being less silly than usual (meta I've never actually witnessed) and process of elimination.

[webadict]

Vote Count
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Leafsnail -
Zai -
Pandarsenic - Leafsnail,
SirBayer -
Vector -
ToonyMan -

Not Voting - Zai, SirBayer, ToonyMan, Vector, Pandarsenic,

4 to Hammer. Day ends Monday 9PM Central.

[Pandarsenic]

Silly requires me to be more attentive. Honestly, I've lost some of my interest in this game because my abilities are lame (Delay? Really?) and I don't like playing town as much as I like playing scum.

Also, are you using LACK of suspicious interaction between me and dorf as a "scumtell"? Really, Vector?

[Vector]

Also, are you using LACK of suspicious interaction between me and dorf as a "scumtell"? Really, Vector?

I'm using general lack of attacking each other/talking to each other/doing anything to each other as a scumtell.  Looks like avoidance, to me.

Most of the scumtells were wrought by you, yourself.