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[ExKirby]

Right.

*suspects reviver role*

[Pandarsenic]

Chatting with Webby about something. Also, be back later.

[Leafsnail]

It's not lylo, EK.  Vector shouldn't claim.

Hey, Errol.  Bet you feel happy with distancing yourself from yesterday's lynch, eh?  As far as I can tell, you were hoping that noone would actually read the weird block of text you gave as reasoning, since it's complete garbage.

[Zai]

Not good day today in real life for me. I'm really not in the mood for Mafia tonight. This weekend, though, I will be free, as I said a few days ago. I should have time, unless something changes.

[dorf]

Dorf, Who do you think is scum?

FoS'ing people WITH reasoning got me lynched once, so imagine how suspicious you must look right now.

But it is a valid question, after all. I have read through this thread, and will now give out the results of my scan of everybody. Starting with you.

This is what we like to call a "passive jump."  He FoS's you to show you that he wants a question answered; you jump a mile in the air.  You're not a newbie, anymore.  There's no reason for you to act like this unless you're newbie scum.

'Tis but a warning.

MagmaDeath, it seems, it is I that should be pointing the FoS on you. You have posted only a few posts, since the game started:

OMGUS mentality.  Not good, scumbucket.

You're reading too much into the FoS sentence, and not enough in the final sentence.

MagmaDeath, it seems, it is I that should be pointing the FoS on you. You have posted only a few posts, since the game started:
RVS, extension request, two okay attacks and just now you buddied with Leaf.
Care to explain that?

All right, MagmaDeath deserves an FoS for not being archetypically town.  Fair enough.  We all deserve an FoS or five.

Since you are STILL defending MD's lack of playing, it is up to me to revive the argument and ask:
MagmaDeath, WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOU?

Errol, you made a few more posts than MD, the last few were defending EK, suggesting EK to improve his playstyle, and making casual conversation with EK .
We don't need you to defend players under scrutiny. We need you to hunt for scum!
I'm still not sure how to interpret this friendship with EK... Are you friends IRL, or why are you being so nice with him?

And then you make another attack, which also ends in a question.  Please also note your use of ellipses: they're a fairly standard passiveness-tell.

Already, you make no sense.

Vector could be more aggressive, but I don't feel he's done anything particularly anti-town. I liked, when he attacked Kashyyk(sp?), but what's happened to "Errol, don't think I'm not watching you.", Vector?

More attempts to spray suspicion AT ALL PEOPLE EVER.  Please also note that you've contradicted yourself: "Town until proven scum" and "Guilty until proven innocent."  Conflicting ideologies... but why?

Let's look at this from my perspective, if I were trying to kill myself.  I've bandwagoned aggressively, buddied, lurked heavily, and allowed no one to get a real read on me (and now injected a healthy dose of WIFOM  ).  What did you see?  Nothing, because you're scared of me and don't want to get into a fight when you're on the wrong side.  Additionally, you're taking any excuse possible to put suspicion on everyone.

"What happened to 'Errol, I'm watching you?'"

I'm watching him.  Exactly what it said on the tin.

It was a widescan.
If you noticed, I was pragmatic on all players.

I'm getting pro-town vibes from Leafsnail, so far. He's active, aggressive and his claims seem on target. I wouldn't want to lose him.
That makes it even more funny, when someone like Neruz attacks him.

EXTREME BUDDYING POWER!!  You know, if I teach you how to buddy in one game and then you use that technique in another game I'm playing with you, directly afterwards, I'm going to catch you so fast your head will spin, pop off like a champagne cork, and go flying into geosynchronous orbit.  Like this.

He's not that active.  He's somewhat aggressive, but other players are about the same amount of aggressive.  You're either protecting a scumbuddy or trying to limpet onto the good town players.

I'm guessing the latter.  Don't even try to ingratiate yourself to me.

You even said it yourself...
I'm not saying he IS town. I'm saying, SO FAR, he seems town. I.e. he gave me no reason to doubt that.

Neruz can't be town, can he? His posts consist of joke statements, passiveness, OMGUS and joke votes, and his post below, he admitted to: being passive on purpose, doesn't care where his vote ends up and lurking. ALL of which are anti-town behavior.

Boredom, mostly. I've been over this thread twice now and come up with nothing sufficient to tag my interest. Since i'm fairly sure Vector isn't going to get suddenly wagoned by sneaky scum, i don't particulary give a damn where my vote is. With nothing to go on, i'm fine with just watching until i can get an opening.

Although it does appear i'm about to get wagoned by sneaky scum, which is kind of cool, and would solve the boredom issue.

The last statement makes me think that he wants to get lynched (is there such a win condition?), since he was already wagoned, before he made that post.
Unvote.
I'm sorry, Neruz, but there is no way you are town.

Listen up, scumbucket.  You said "here be someone who doesn't mind getting lynched" and rather than going "That's a casket of WIFOM.  I'd better find out what's really going on" you say "LYNCH HIIIIIM."  Additionally, see Neruz' persuasive statement analysis.

Why is it that it's so very scummy for you to try to persuade in this manner?  Because you're appealing to the town.  You're trying to direct and control us, not scumhunt.  Some buddying is normal in a typical townie.  A touch of passiveness, perhaps.  I'm certainly guilty of both in most games.

You, on the other hand, are buddying with every powerful player and attacking every weak one for all you can muster.  That doesn't work, unless what you really want is for the entire town to kill itself.

See? We aren't that different. The difference is that you are exaggerating and trying to see something that isn't there.

Neruz was nowhere near being the poster child for town. I blame the lynch on his play-style. Note that even HE admitted of such play-style and recommended others not to do it, because it wouldn't work. As we had seen. :x

Eduren wasn't really that active before, but he is being more aggresive now, so I presume he will post more?

Passive, and I don't remember the last time he posted.  Once again, you attack everything that moves.

I'm sorry, where exactly is the attack?
I was stating fact, as people usually do in widescans.

People need to start playing!

Zai is a tough nut. He's been active and aggressive, but has made that weird WIFOM accusation that I am not sure he even explained?
But we have weirder people to worry about, right now.

More passiveness, more buddying with the town, blah blah blah.  Quit it.

See above.

SirBayer, I will not even go into the scuminess of Neruz and you, and will just ask: is EK the only one you think is scum? Why did you back off (actually, I'm not sure that you even tried to attack) from Zai?
You attacked EK early in the game and that was the last trail of aggressiveness I found. Since then, you took part in casual/unnecessary/derailing conversation and seems to be in a defensive stance.
The game is not over! If you attack once, it doesn't mean you can just stop scumhunting. And that FoS on Zai was hardly an attack, seeing how your post after that one was defensive and remorseful.
Who else do you think is scum?

Now who's FoSing for no reason?  I talk about your introductory line, by the way.

We'll make a note that you can call Errol out for precisely the same issues, but he's not considered scummy for same.  Interesting.  Errol is off making friends with ExKirby, ExKirby is being defensive out the ass, SirBayer is being casual, and I'm just sitting about saying "Yeah, I'll read the thread eventually, whatever, okay," but we're not scum... and Bayer is.

You're right about Errol. I guess, I missed that.

The jury is still out with ExKirby.
Looking back, you were active, just not really scumhunting.
Tell me, did you even consider Khasyyk(sp?) as scum before most of other players considered him scum?

Asking dumb questions you could easily get the answers to from reading the thread.  That's not necessarily scummy--just lazy.

I will give you the pleasure of putting it in my face and let you quote him, where he actually addressed that.

Actually, Vector, do you know what the tofu happened to you?

Right.

*suspects reviver role*

>_>
Why did you say that? Are you waiting for him to confirm or something?

[ExKirby]

[not quoting because I only want to reffer to the bit about me]

No, I was just trying to work something out in my head in the first post, and pointing out the obvious in the second.

[Errol]

It's not lylo, EK.  Vector shouldn't claim.

Hey, Errol.  Bet you feel happy with distancing yourself from yesterday's lynch, eh?  As far as I can tell, you were hoping that noone would actually read the weird block of text you gave as reasoning, since it's complete garbage.

"Oh, btw, your block of text is complete garbage. Never mind the reason."

I would sleep a lot better if you actually told me why the block of text is garbage, instead of just declaring it as such. I summed up my thoughts about dorf in that post and why his behavior seems scummy to me.

This is what we like to call a "passive jump."  He FoS's you to show you that he wants a question answered; you jump a mile in the air.  You're not a newbie, anymore.  There's no reason for you to act like this unless you're newbie scum.

'Tis but a warning.

Right, and I am suspicious for warning ExKirby, it seems. Where's the difference?

OMGUS mentality.  Not good, scumbucket.

You're reading too much into the FoS sentence, and not enough in the final sentence.

OH LOOK, IT'S A DISTRACTION. You can't tell people how to interpret your finely crafted posts, honey. MagmaDeath might be a lurker but he's completely besides the point, the point being your scummy actions.

All right, MagmaDeath deserves an FoS for not being archetypically town.  Fair enough.  We all deserve an FoS or five.

Since you are STILL defending MD's lack of playing, it is up to me to revive the argument and ask:
MagmaDeath, WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOU?

...okay, that sentence of Vector really seems weird. Saying "we all deserve a FoS or five" completely misses the point.

And then you make another attack, which also ends in a question.  Please also note your use of ellipses: they're a fairly standard passiveness-tell.

Already, you make no sense.

I've got an acute lack of understanding. Your argument is invalid. I also dislike these sorts of methods of post analysis, but you can't just dismiss an argument like that.

More attempts to spray suspicion AT ALL PEOPLE EVER.  Please also note that you've contradicted yourself: "Town until proven scum" and "Guilty until proven innocent."  Conflicting ideologies... but why?

Let's look at this from my perspective, if I were trying to kill myself.  I've bandwagoned aggressively, buddied, lurked heavily, and allowed no one to get a real read on me (and now injected a healthy dose of WIFOM  ).  What did you see?  Nothing, because you're scared of me and don't want to get into a fight when you're on the wrong side.  Additionally, you're taking any excuse possible to put suspicion on everyone.

"What happened to 'Errol, I'm watching you?'"

I'm watching him.  Exactly what it said on the tin.

It was a widescan.
If you noticed, I was pragmatic on all players.

Widescans serve as a method to find the most suspicious target, the ones you find the most scummy, the one who made the most faults.

Your reasoning for lynching Neruz?

The last statement makes me think that he wants to get lynched (is there such a win condition?), since he was already wagoned, before he made that post.
Unvote.
I'm sorry, Neruz, but there is no way you are town.

A little priceless gem of logic. "Hey, Neruz might be a jester. Let's lynch him!" There's a more reasonable second part, of course:

Neruz can't be town, can he? His posts consist of joke statements, passiveness, OMGUS and joke votes, and his post below, he admitted to: being passive on purpose, doesn't care where his vote ends up and lurking. ALL of which are anti-town behavior.

That is true, but what Neruz pulled is, essentially, a method of reaction fishing. A bad one, admittedly. Who knows, perhaps you pull in some scum hoping to get an easy lynch. Like you.

Note how you cast a FoS on SirBayer in that post and don't come back on him ever. Despite him contributing close to zero content from that post of yours on.

Listen up, scumbucket.  You said "here be someone who doesn't mind getting lynched" and rather than going "That's a casket of WIFOM.  I'd better find out what's really going on" you say "LYNCH HIIIIIM."  Additionally, see Neruz' persuasive statement analysis.

Why is it that it's so very scummy for you to try to persuade in this manner?  Because you're appealing to the town.  You're trying to direct and control us, not scumhunt.  Some buddying is normal in a typical townie.  A touch of passiveness, perhaps.  I'm certainly guilty of both in most games.

You, on the other hand, are buddying with every powerful player and attacking every weak one for all you can muster.  That doesn't work, unless what you really want is for the entire town to kill itself.

See? We aren't that different. The difference is that you are exaggerating and trying to see something that isn't there.

Neruz was nowhere near being the poster child for town. I blame the lynch on his play-style. Note that even HE admitted of such play-style and recommended others not to do it, because it wouldn't work. As we had seen. :x

The first one to blame for him getting lynched would be the people voting for him. Note that your vote was essentially the deciding vote. The fact that Vector was the target of the NK this night doesn't help your case. It could be the real scum framing you, but it helps matters as a townie if you keep Occam's Razor handy at all times.

Oh, and Neruz was a better townie than you - towards the end, he became helpful. It's not clear how you are helping matters right now.

Now who's FoSing for no reason?  I talk about your introductory line, by the way.

We'll make a note that you can call Errol out for precisely the same issues, but he's not considered scummy for same.  Interesting.  Errol is off making friends with ExKirby, ExKirby is being defensive out the ass, SirBayer is being casual, and I'm just sitting about saying "Yeah, I'll read the thread eventually, whatever, okay," but we're not scum... and Bayer is.

You're right about Errol. I guess, I missed that.

I wonder whether you would have called me out if Leafsnail hadn't gone for me. You don't even investigate the other people on the list - except for the one that Leafsnail voted. Coincidence? I think not.

There still is a 90 percent chance you are scum, dorf, and I'm willing to risk it.

[SirBayer]

Note how you cast a FoS on SirBayer in that post and don't come back on him ever. Despite him contributing close to zero content from that post of yours on.

Zero content deserves zero content?

But seriously, it's hard to keep up.

SO I'm renewing my inquiry, ExKirby. Where the hell did you get the idea that I was randomvoting and sheeping, and why did Vector seem to agree?

Speaking of which, why the hell was VECTOR buddying EXKIRBY? One moment, let me drag that up...

SirBayer, why does it seem that you are sheepfollowing to me?

He sheeps everyone ._.  If he's not scum, they're probably roffling about it in the scumchat, as usual >_>

Buddying! Not to mention sympathizing with the scum, which as I understand it is a very reasonable scumtell. So, ExKirby, Vector. What do you have to say for yourselves?

[Pandarsenic]

Eh, Webadict will get back to me later.

Vector is acting erratic.

Also, he scumslipped late yesterday.

[dorf]

This is what we like to call a "passive jump."  He FoS's you to show you that he wants a question answered; you jump a mile in the air.  You're not a newbie, anymore.  There's no reason for you to act like this unless you're newbie scum.

'Tis but a warning.

Right, and I am suspicious for warning ExKirby, it seems. Where's the difference?

The difference was in quantity and some buddying, whereas I told him what happened from my experience.

OMGUS mentality.  Not good, scumbucket.

You're reading too much into the FoS sentence, and not enough in the final sentence.

OH LOOK, IT'S A DISTRACTION. You can't tell people how to interpret your finely crafted posts, honey. MagmaDeath might be a lurker but he's completely besides the point, the point being your scummy actions.

?
And you are now interpreting HIS post?
I was merely pointing out that he ignored a valid piece of information.

And then you make another attack, which also ends in a question.  Please also note your use of ellipses: they're a fairly standard passiveness-tell.

Already, you make no sense.

I've got an acute lack of understanding. Your argument is invalid. I also dislike these sorts of methods of post analysis, but you can't just dismiss an argument like that.

Sorry, I didn't understand your reply. Did you agree or disagree with his obviously superior ellipses argument?

More attempts to spray suspicion AT ALL PEOPLE EVER.  Please also note that you've contradicted yourself: "Town until proven scum" and "Guilty until proven innocent."  Conflicting ideologies... but why?

Let's look at this from my perspective, if I were trying to kill myself.  I've bandwagoned aggressively, buddied, lurked heavily, and allowed no one to get a real read on me (and now injected a healthy dose of WIFOM  ).  What did you see?  Nothing, because you're scared of me and don't want to get into a fight when you're on the wrong side.  Additionally, you're taking any excuse possible to put suspicion on everyone.

"What happened to 'Errol, I'm watching you?'"

I'm watching him.  Exactly what it said on the tin.

It was a widescan.
If you noticed, I was pragmatic on all players.

Widescans serve as a method to find the most suspicious target, the ones you find the most scummy, the one who made the most faults.

Your reasoning for lynching Neruz?

Neruz can't be town, can he? His posts consist of joke statements, passiveness, OMGUS and joke votes, and his post below, he admitted to: being passive on purpose, doesn't care where his vote ends up and lurking. ALL of which are anti-town behavior.

That is true, but what Neruz pulled is, essentially, a method of reaction fishing. A bad one, admittedly. Who knows, perhaps you pull in some scum hoping to get an easy lynch. Like you.

'Nuff said.

Note how you cast a FoS on SirBayer in that post and don't come back on him ever. Despite him contributing close to zero content from that post of yours on.

I'd hardly call a few posts 'ever'. I am observing him and his interactions. When he'll do something scummy, I'll react.

Listen up, scumbucket.  You said "here be someone who doesn't mind getting lynched" and rather than going "That's a casket of WIFOM.  I'd better find out what's really going on" you say "LYNCH HIIIIIM."  Additionally, see Neruz' persuasive statement analysis.

Why is it that it's so very scummy for you to try to persuade in this manner?  Because you're appealing to the town.  You're trying to direct and control us, not scumhunt.  Some buddying is normal in a typical townie.  A touch of passiveness, perhaps.  I'm certainly guilty of both in most games.

You, on the other hand, are buddying with every powerful player and attacking every weak one for all you can muster.  That doesn't work, unless what you really want is for the entire town to kill itself.

See? We aren't that different. The difference is that you are exaggerating and trying to see something that isn't there.

Neruz was nowhere near being the poster child for town. I blame the lynch on his play-style. Note that even HE admitted of such play-style and recommended others not to do it, because it wouldn't work. As we had seen. :x

The first one to blame for him getting lynched would be the people voting for him. Note that your vote was essentially the deciding vote. The fact that Vector was the target of the NK this night doesn't help your case. It could be the real scum framing you, but it helps matters as a townie if you keep Occam's Razor handy at all times.

Oh, and Neruz was a better townie than you - towards the end, he became helpful. It's not clear how you are helping matters right now.

And look where his "helpfulness" got him. He played a risky game that unfortunately got him lynched.
I am not happy that has happened, but there isn't much I can do. Except continue to scumhunt and bring out lurkers such as Eduren and MD.

Now who's FoSing for no reason?  I talk about your introductory line, by the way.

We'll make a note that you can call Errol out for precisely the same issues, but he's not considered scummy for same.  Interesting.  Errol is off making friends with ExKirby, ExKirby is being defensive out the ass, SirBayer is being casual, and I'm just sitting about saying "Yeah, I'll read the thread eventually, whatever, okay," but we're not scum... and Bayer is.

You're right about Errol. I guess, I missed that.

I wonder whether you would have called me out if Leafsnail hadn't gone for me. You don't even investigate the other people on the list - except for the one that Leafsnail voted. Coincidence? I think not.

There still is a 90 percent chance you are scum, dorf, and I'm willing to risk it.

I gave an opinion of everyone. I fail to see how you connected Leaf and me. Or did the thought stick from Vector's accusations?
Remember, it was you that voted for me, not vice versa.
I am still not ready to be so bold.

Eh, Webadict will get back to me later.

Vector is acting erratic.

Also, he scumslipped late yesterday.

I see!
You give a very convincing argument!
I shall be sure to vote for him, ASAP!
<_<

[not quoting because I only want to reffer to the bit about me]

No, I was just trying to work something out in my head in the first post, and pointing out the obvious in the second.

Do you wish to share your thoughts? That is kind of needed, if we are to win this game :x


Ok, webadict, I want prods delivered to Eduren and MagmaDeath, please.

[Pandarsenic]

Have you even looked at Vector? My god. Shut your whore mouth and vote him.

[Vector]

 

Geez, I wake up and people are trying to kill me.  Thanks, Pandarsenic.

All right, MagmaDeath deserves an FoS for not being archetypically town.  Fair enough.  We all deserve an FoS or five.

Since you are STILL defending MD's lack of playing, it is up to me to revive the argument and ask:
MagmaDeath, WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOU?
[/quote]

No, I was just mentioning that the town is currently being amusingly scummy.  We should all cut it out, but it's not like any of us are being particularly "townish" at the moment (I say this especially because I cannot read Leafsnail for the life of me).

And then you make another attack, which also ends in a question.  Please also note your use of ellipses: they're a fairly standard passiveness-tell.

Already, you make no sense.
[/quote]

Ah: You're asking, not saying.  That's a sign of passiveness.  As far as the ellipses go, it's a pattern I've noticed among passive/depressed people, though heavy elliptical density may be more "depressed," which can some kit and kaboodle with "passive."  I.e., correlation vs. causation, blahblahblah.

... Need to rethink that one.

More attempts to spray suspicion AT ALL PEOPLE EVER.  Please also note that you've contradicted yourself: "Town until proven scum" and "Guilty until proven innocent."  Conflicting ideologies... but why?

It was a widescan.
If you noticed, I was pragmatic on all players.
[/quote]

You haven't explained your contradictory statements.

I mention your "pragmatism" because, contradictorily, scum often declare everyone scum in an attempt to get good lynch-chains.  In particular, I know that both I and JanusTwoFace have been known to do this.

See? We aren't that different. The difference is that you are exaggerating and trying to see something that isn't there.

The problem I'm having here is that you're using magical buddying/persuasion phrases at the same time as you're off being townish.  I observe certain behaviors I would use to manipulate people and so on.

I'm sorry, where exactly is the attack?
I was stating fact, as people usually do in widescans.

People need to start playing!

Once again: it's a typical active-scum tactic to take a swing and anything and everything.  It looked like you were doing this, so I pressed you over it.

I will give you the pleasure of putting it in my face and let you quote him, where he actually addressed that.

Sure.

I was about to post something similar to that, but Zai seems to have ninja'd me. I won't vote him, because then it becomes a bandwagon.

Right here.


Now, Errol:

All right, MagmaDeath deserves an FoS for not being archetypically town.  Fair enough.  We all deserve an FoS or five.

Since you are STILL defending MD's lack of playing, it is up to me to revive the argument and ask:
MagmaDeath, WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOU?

...okay, that sentence of Vector really seems weird. Saying "we all deserve a FoS or five" completely misses the point.

My point is that, in seeing what's "there," he seems to be missing the point.  If I were going down the list, pointing FoS's at everyone that deserved one, I would probably FoS everyone but, say, one or two players (and those I would be suspicious of because I couldn't read them).  I feel like he's missing the point of wide-scanning.

SirBayer, why does it seem that you are sheepfollowing to me?

He sheeps everyone ._.  If he's not scum, they're probably roffling about it in the scumchat, as usual >_>

Buddying! Not to mention sympathizing with the scum, which as I understand it is a very reasonable scumtell. So, ExKirby, Vector. What do you have to say for yourselves?

... That statement was "Bayer is extremely weak to buddying."  Because you are.  The latter part is remembering previous games, in which I kept you alive in something like three simultaneous games to use for a lynch-puppet.

Fundamentally, it's an explanation that sheeping is part of your meta, and I don't think it's something to really get worked up about.

Eh, Webadict will get back to me later.

Vector is acting erratic.

Also, he scumslipped late yesterday.

Have you even looked at Vector? My god. Shut your whore mouth and vote him.

Some sort of explanation before you start attempting to bandwagon my corpse would be nice.

[Vector]

Guh, quote tags.  When it says "dorf" and has a broken quote, it should be "Vector" and then "dorf."

[MagmaDeath]

Note how you cast a FoS on SirBayer in that post and don't come back on him ever. Despite him contributing close to zero content from that post of yours on.

Zero content deserves zero content?

But seriously, it's hard to keep up.

SO I'm renewing my inquiry, ExKirby. Where the hell did you get the idea that I was randomvoting and sheeping, and why did Vector seem to agree?

Speaking of which, why the hell was VECTOR buddying EXKIRBY? One moment, let me drag that up...

SirBayer, why does it seem that you are sheepfollowing to me?

He sheeps everyone ._.  If he's not scum, they're probably roffling about it in the scumchat, as usual >_>

Buddying! Not to mention sympathizing with the scum, which as I understand it is a very reasonable scumtell. So, ExKirby, Vector. What do you have to say for yourselves?

So, you're that angry at him exposing your meta?

Eh, Webadict will get back to me later.

Vector is acting erratic.

Also, he scumslipped late yesterday.

Nice no content post, following Sirbayer.

Have you even looked at Vector? My god. Shut your whore mouth and vote him.

Yet again, no content.

Vector isn't being as ragey as he normally is as scum, and HE WAS KILLED LAST NIGHT.
I mean, he promptly was alive again but still, he was the only kill.

Pandersenic, please EXPAND on your reasons for voting for vector?

[Leafsnail]

I would sleep a lot better if you actually told me why the block of text is garbage, instead of just declaring it as such. I summed up my thoughts about dorf in that post and why his behavior seems scummy to me.

It just generally doesn't make sense at all.  And trying to distance yourself from a lynch without making any real attempt to change it is scummy.

Vector is acting erratic.

Also, he scumslipped late yesterday.

Uh... how?

Guys, I don't really get the case that's being made against Vector.  It seems to be a combination of angry OMGUS and vagueness from Pandar.