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[dakarian]

*points to Webadict's death scene*

[CobaltKobold]

Two bells ring.

Huzzah!

[webadict]

Well then. I have no ideas.

Maybe we should No Lynch?

[Vector]

I think a bell rings every time we hit "game over."  So there's some sort of puzzle that we're missing here; I don't think the answer is "kill everyone."  I think there's something else going on that we're supposed to be doing and figuring out, and I think that Webadict was onto something when he mentioned the "saved by the bell" and "the bell that tolls for you" statements.

In other words, I don't think the bells are just counters.  I think they control the game in some way.

[webadict]

I think a bell rings every time we hit "game over."  So there's some sort of puzzle that we're missing here; I don't think the answer is "kill everyone."  I think there's something else going on that we're supposed to be doing and figuring out, and I think that Webadict was onto something when he mentioned the "saved by the bell" and "the bell that tolls for you" statements.

In other words, I don't think the bells are just counters.  I think they control the game in some way.

Yes, that makes sense, but I'm still confused about why everyone died that first Night but didn't really die.

[Mr.Person]

I'm dying to know what happened last night for those of us that were still alive. I acted on my suspiscions and went for a dead Zai.

 I'm going to have to agree that the bells sounding are resets, mulligans, redos, do-overs, whatever you want to call them, they let us restart. I think our goal might be to wind up with all of the scum dead and the game ending.

On the other hand, our goal might be to have a specific subset of people ALIVE at the end of the game, there's just not a lot of info. We need as much as possible. Specifically, we need to know why some people didn't roleflip the same thing as their claim.

[webadict]

Well, did anyone do anything last Night? Did anyone's actions go through?

[Vector]

I protected Zai.

[Leafsnail]

Ok... it would seem I have returned to life.  Which is odd - I thought that, since I had been dead for 2 days, I was perhaps "perma killed" in some way.  Now, looking back through the thread, I will try to assemble everyone's claims:

1. Pandarsenic - Redirector
2. Zai - day poisoner whose kills go through at night
3. inteuniso - Doctor (Roleflipped)
4. Vector - Anti-Doctor
5. Leafsnail - No claim, no roleflip
6. Webadict - Copycat (roleflipped)
7. ExKirby - double-killer
8. RedWarrior0 - Dayvig SuperSaint (roleflipped)
9. Mr.Person - CPR doctor

I will add my role to the list - I am a Bodyguard.  I protected webadict on night one.  Something odd happened after I was killed night one, though - I was told I was being "cleared away" by someone, and that my body had been hidden.  I suppose this is why I had no roleflip.

A few things I find odd -
1. Since noone's claiming the resurrections, we can probably assume that scum is behind it.  However, if this is the case, who killed me and Pandarsenic?  Why would scum who apparently wants us alive be killing us?
2. On Night 1 it had a list of those who died in the night, but it seems that noone died last night.  Can we get an MC on last night's actions?
3. Who cleared up my body?  Why didn't they want me to roleflip?  What else can this person do?

Overall, I have thought of another possibility - that there are two scum factions at work here.  There'd probably only be one person in each, but I will call them factions for now.

The first scum faction is behind the resurrections, for whatever reason.  Due to this odd approach, I think this faction may want all five bells to be rung.  Notice that a bell rang on day one and today - the days when all of us were alive.  I will continue to call this faction D-Ringer.

The second scum faction functions more like a traditional scum group.  It seems to want people to die, and to cause confusion among the town.  I suspect a KWN style serial killer.  I will call this possible faction X-Ringer.  X-Ringer is probably trying to track down and eliminate D-Ringer, in some way.

If I wanted a candidate for D-Ringer, I would choose Vector.  He's changed his roleclaim and seems to have slipped up by saying he "protected" Zai last night.  Perhaps he realised that CPR Doctor was too provable, and that something more vague like Anti-Doctor would serve him better.

If I wanted a candidate for X-Ringer, I would choose ExKirby.  He's avoided being killed, has a very strong ability and has been lurking up a storm.  I know dakarian doesn't like the Double Kill ability (he disabled it in KotM) and it seems like the kind of role he'd only give to a Serial Killer facing an uphill struggle.

So... yeah.  I think that, since X-Ringer seems to function more like a normal scumgroup, we may get more from lynching them.  Hence my vote on ExKirby.

[ExKirby]

Can I get a clarification on WHAT THE F***ING HELL JUST HAPPENED?

That's my rage at the mod... I really can't think of a decent move.

...Maybe we all need to kill each-other at the same time.

Mod, can we multi-lynch?

[dakarian]

@Exkirby

Not so much as 'no answer' as it is a 'too broad' a question.  If it wasn't to be answered then I answer with MEH


tied lynches end in a no lynch.

[Mr.Person]

I dislike how Webadict roleflipped differently from his claim. Lynch all liars and all that. Of course, it could be bastard mod trickery, yes, but let's see how he flips this time.

[Pandarsenic]

Mr.Person, Dak edited it. He flipped what he said now.

[Vector]

My suggestion, actually, is that you lynch me to see the roleflip (if you think there is any confusion left).  My role PM clearly states "Anti-Doctor," though it seems to do precisely the same thing as a CPR doc.  I still have no bloody clue as to what makes it "anti-doctor" rather than "CPR doctor," but there you go.

Further, I don't see why saying I protected Zai last night is a slip-up.  I am a kind of doctor.  Doctors protect.  Therefore I protected Zai (or, rather, tried to kill him and hope no one tried to protect him).

[Leafsnail]

Vector... can't you see the difference?

If an anti-doctor targets someone who is being neither protected nor killed, nothing happens. (CPR will kill in this case)
If an anti-doctor targets someone who is being killed, they still die. (CPR will save in this case)
If an anti-doctor targets someone who is being protected, that person will die. (CPR will also kill in this case... I think?)

So... it's almost the opposite of a CPR, in fact.  It also has no chance of protecting someone.