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[Fist_Of_Armok]

...so I'll start one.



This is Field General Erwin Rommel, hardest motherfucker in Germany during WWII. Not only did he refuse to kill captured Jewish soldiers and civilians, he was allowed due to being such a fucking awesome general. Furthermore, he was not loyal to Der Fuhrer, but his country-hell, the only reason he didn't survive the war was because he tried to kill Hitler, and Hitler ordered him to kill himself-which he only did to spare his family the punishment they would have suffered had he refused.

He modernized tank and desert warfare, and his Afrika Korps were agreed by even the Allies to be pretty cool dudes.

So! Discuss some fuckin' Generals.

[sonerohi]

General Discussion in Other Topics is more appropriate. Also, Ulysses Grant and Richard the Lionhearted.

[bombcar]

Does the new army arc allow for DF generals?

[h3lblad3]

I was under the impression that it did, in fact, allow for a general to be picked by the king.

And I was under the assumption that this would be about that, myself.

What about um...
Alexander the Great?

On another note, Zhang Fei is very dwarf-like...

[Danarca]

Leonidas I of Sparta.
All your candidates just got on their knees.

[Asmodeous]

Richard the Lionhearted.

You can't mention Richard without mentioning Salah ad-Din. The two go hand in hand, and had the utmost respect for each other. Had they met in any other circumstances they'dve likely been friends.

Also, Feldmarschall Rommel was one of the best modern Generals, and absolutely a douche. If you look over his history, he was strict taskmaster, but on the flipside of that he fought in the trenches with his troops and would not command of them anything he would not do. So although there was resentment among his officers, his troops were fond of him, and there was distinct loyalty in his legions. Also, he predicted the assault at Normandy, along with a few of the other generals, and all but demanded his panzer division be moved to Normandy, but Hitler refused. By the time they arrived when the attack started it was already too late. Could've changed the entire allied campaign.

However, much like with Richard and Salah'ad-Din you can't mention Rommel without mentioning both Patton and Eisenhower. Though Patton largely receives credit for Rommel's defeat in Africa (which is not without its truth), the plan was primarily Eisenhower's, and it was Eisenhower that really drafted the strategy that would halt the Blitzkrieg in its tracks, though Patton executed it, and let's be honest -- whenever you have a plan, everything that can... will go wrong. Patton, also, was twice the badass Rommel was in personality, if not his equal on the battlefield.

[Muz]

Armok dammit. Discuss some dwarven generals!

[Vester]

I was under the impression that it did, in fact, allow for a general to be picked by the king.

And I was under the assumption that this would be about that, myself.

What about um...
Alexander the Great?

On another note, Zhang Fei is very dwarf-like...

Zhang Fei wasn't a general. Zhang Fei was a DRUNKEN ARMY WRECKING MACHINE.

So yeah, he was pretty dwarf-like.

EDIT: This really does belong in GD rather than DF GD though.

[KernelM]

Patton largely receives credit for Rommel's defeat in Africa

It wasn't just Patton. Field Marshal Montgomery played an equaly large part in Rommel's defeat in Africa. While Patton pushed Rommel's forces from the west, Montgomery push them from the east. Thus forcing the German forces into a smaller and smaller area and eventualy out of Africa altogether.

[monk12]

Leonidas I of Sparta.
All your candidates just got on their knees.

pfft. The hell kind of general is Leonidas? Give anyone an army of Spartans and a narrow pass and they'll look like the next Sun Tzu.

Great Warrior? Yes. Great General? Somewhat less so.

[Tonjevic]

Rommel never wanted to kill Hitler, by the way. He advocated arrest and trial, because he insisted that an assassination would turn Hitler into a martyr and thereby perpetuate the Reich's behaviour.

[Arrkhal]

The hell kind of general is Leonidas? Give anyone an army of Spartans and a narrow pass and they'll look like the next Sun Tzu.

There's also the fact that Leonidas sorta-kinda lost (albeit through no fault of his own).  All he and his 300 Spartans (and thousands of other Greeks) actually did was cover the retreat of the 2/3rds of the Greek army who ran away.  It was a heroic last stand, but still a defeat.  It's also possible that a fighting retreat would've spared more Greek lives, despite conventional wisdom that they would've been cut down in the plains.  Cavalry cannot travel as far in a day as infantry (not even as far as heavily armored infantry), especially when carrying a rider.

Miltiades was way more badass.  After several days of staring at Persians across a plain, he basically just said "Hell with it.  At them, boys!", but with fewer words.  This was with Spartan reinforcements only a couple days' march away.  It was also a point in history where the Greeks had never won a single significant battle against the Persians.  Up to then, according to Herodotus, just saying "Persian" to a Greek would make him wet himself in terror.  Oh, and the Persian ruler at that time was way more competent.

Miltiades still mopped the floor with the Persians.

Oh, Milt also set up leadership of the Greek army so that command rotated each day.  That's right, Miltiades invented the succession game.  Very dwarfy.

[Kavalion]

Georgy Konstantinovich Zhukov.

He was a keen proponent of the new theory of armored warfare and was noted for his detailed planning, tough discipline and strictness, and a "never give up" attitude.  He survived disagreeing with Stalin, disobeying Stalin's orders, threatening Stalin's power with his popularity, and would live to the age of 77.  42 years of service to Russia/Soviet Union.

Born an impoverished peasant, apprenticed to a furrier, and then conscripted (along with the cheese makers) at the age of 19 for World War I.  During World War II, he was promoted to the highest military rank of the Soviet Union.  After World War II, Stalin replaced him and sent him to some backwater military base where he hoped the public would forget about him, as he feared Zhukov's popularity could challenge his leadership.

[SkyRender]

 This is General Protection Fault.

 Not much is known about him that's personal, other than the fact that he has about a million different guises.  He's killed more processes than any task manager could hope to.  His campaigns against misbehaving software have earned him the nickname "The Blue Screen of Death".  His methods are uncompromising, and his policies are absolute: if you work with memory you don't have rights to, he's there to terminate you.

 General Protection Fault continues to operate to this day, taking down hundreds of instances of software each and every hour.  He has the ire, fear, and grudging respect of millions of programmers and computer users from across the world.  And as long as software continues to do what it's not supposed to do, the good General will be there to uphold the laws of RAM usage.

[valcon]

My personal favorite, though usually people don't credit him as being a general ... he was, however, Emir Faisal's main general during the WW1 Hejaz revolt

TE Lawrence led an army of a few hundred untrained Bedouin camel riders and foot soldiers to a victory over hundreds of thousands of Turkish troops with almost no support from his British handlers.