As for the claim... well, I admit, that wasn't thought out by me, because it 'didn't matter.' I have no idea what Akigagak was doing at that point, though, or why he did what he did.
Why would you think it didn't matter? Because Akigagak claimed that SirBayer told him in private that the fluff roles "weren't important", whatever that meant? (Akigagak only later claimed that scum have fluff roles like town.)
If so, this implies a lot of faith in Akigagak, and a complete disregard for Pandarsenic, Webadict, and the chance to get town some information.
I demand to know why you ignored the three of us and claimed, if it "didn't matter".
I'm sure you aren't ignoring this, Errol. That would make you a hypocrite.
No, I overlooked it :X Sorry about that.
I thought it didn't matter because Akigagak already sabotaged the plan, which robbed it of whatever chance it still had. Not that I was optimistic about the whole thing, but I stated my opinion already. That is, it was neither practical nor had it a good chance to work.
By the way, you should probably not rely on the ICs too much. In the end, it's our game, and only the players decide what happens. And ICs are people too, they might just be wrong. For anything further, refer to the idea/execution differentiation.
Okay, everyone, you're all set on who you believe is the first scum. But, who do you believe is the second scum and why?
Errol, for buddying with Akigagak. After Akigagak made his stupid roleclaim, Errol essentially came to his defense by roleclaiming as well.
You might be reading too much into this... I put no thought in that action, which, in retrospect, was really stupid.
He's also supported Akigagak's mistake by ridiculing my plan. More recently he's expressed willingness to forgive Akigagak for "one mishap - no matter how large".
That's my general policy. We're in Beginner's Mafia, so you get exactly one chance. Before you try to apply this yourself, you pulled your highly questionable tactics Day 1, Day 2 and Day 3. That's not exactly one failed chance.
(all I ever wanted was for Akigagak to *admit to* the mishap).
Unrelated.
Despite offering this "get out of lynch free" card to Akigagak, he once again votes me without explanation. His last argument against me (beyond generally name-calling) was me "buddying" with inteuniso, which is ironic given his relationship with Akigagak.
This was mainly for SirBayers votecount. The last time I changed my vote was to vote you, and I see no real reason to change it, nor do I see a more scummy target. And, until that, my vote stays.
Before inteuniso went AWOL, he tried to organize the mass-claim. At that time Errol and Akigagak were actively lurking while Inteuniso and I tried to do the mass-claim. The mass-claim was apparently *so unimportant* that they started posting again just to sabotage it and call me stupid for being involved.
Being involved - or trying to push the thing through? That's two different things. Much like Akigagak never admitted that his individual claim was the single worst thing he did you never - or too late, after stubbornly insisting some time - admitted your plan was, basically, retarded, in terms of execution.
Thus I think Errol and Akigagak are both scum. The least scummy thing they've done is attack me relentlessly for trying to help.
You helped as much as me, or Akigagak. Which is, not very much. All what we did was riling each other up.
Now, lemme make my case. At the moment, it is most likely that Rolan7 is scum. He doesn't listen to arguments or listens to the exact wrong passages, pulling them out of context, tried to push a lynch through every day so far, with great recklessness. Day 1, you had a slapfight with dorf just like today. Difference is you actually were more sensible then, didn't defend quite as much, and you didn't grasp at straws, which is what most of your arguments are consisting of at this point. It's almost as if you are struggling for arguments. Like scum.
Day 2 you jumped on the ExKirby-wagon at a rather late point (I admit that I did that too), and only surfaced after being voted for. Then you destroyed every single chance ExKirby might have used for proving his town-ness, not only by getting on rather late, but by virtue of brutalness of attack, like you always do.
tl;dr: Your method of scumhunting is mainly consisting of getting your target lynched, not getting scum lynched. This is an indication
The second place was originally Therion, now replaced by webadict, whom everyone seems to assume as town. However, web stays on the sidelines. There might be a reason for this, but for now, I'll assume the worst.
Alternatively, Akigagak might be scum. If he slips up again, we can be certain, but at the moment, it's just a possibility.
brb Dinner, having to make a break here.
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