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Author Topic: BM8: The Eclipse (End: Town Victory)  (Read 56853 times)

Errol

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Re: BM8: The Eclipse (Day 1: Spies? On my spaceship?)
« Reply #180 on: January 15, 2010, 02:00:14 pm »

Okay, I'll not change my vote. Gotcha.
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Re: BM8: The Eclipse (Day 1: Spies? On my spaceship?)
« Reply #181 on: January 15, 2010, 02:11:11 pm »

Errol has already voted.

Did you mean me?

The important thing is no *new* votes.  Specifically votes that would cause a no-lynch.  I even suggest not putting a first vote on anyone, because then a mafia could "accidentally" also place a vote on that person and pretend they didn't mean to tie up the game.  A long-shot, but why risk it?  Just don't vote until the day finishes, see?
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Re: BM8: The Eclipse (Day 1: Spies? On my spaceship?)
« Reply #182 on: January 15, 2010, 02:16:49 pm »

Because we just don't care.

Now that's some good flavour text (:

Space doesn't care.  It doesn't care about spies, or spaceships, or walls of text.  It just exists, or more accurately, is the lack of existence.  Space will claim two souls today.  One of them will be a good man.  The other, if I have anything to say about it, will be dirty spy.  But space doesn't care.
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Re: BM8: The Eclipse (Day 1: Spies? On my spaceship?)
« Reply #183 on: January 15, 2010, 02:30:22 pm »

I just remembered!  Dorf tried to vote ExKirby but didn't unvote first.
Oops. Unvote. Vote ExKirby.
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Re: BM8: The Eclipse (Day 1: Spies? On my spaceship?)
« Reply #184 on: January 15, 2010, 02:39:41 pm »

@SirBayer

Man, I forgot the joys of trying to get into classes.  Keep fighting! 

Also, if you can't get in a class, consider going to the teacher who's running it.  Teachers CAN override and let you in anyway if you can convince them.  I had to do that for one of my english classes since the teacher running it was the ONE teacher who actually tried to TEACH you anything and help you complete assignments rather than go on their own tangent while the class fails.

On topic:

Dorf[2]: Rolan7, ExKirby,
GlyphGryph[1]: Therion
Akigagak[1]: inteuniso,
ExKirby[2]: GlyphGryph, dorf,
inteuniso[1]: Errol,
Therion[1]: Halmie,

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Re: BM8: The Eclipse (Day 1: Spies? On my spaceship?)
« Reply #185 on: January 15, 2010, 02:42:10 pm »

Unvote.

Yeah. I thought it was established we get someone lynched, such as, well, dorf, for what he just did. As Glyph pointed out... it's rather scummy, so we better get you lynched.
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Re: BM8: The Eclipse (Day 1: Spies? On my spaceship?)
« Reply #186 on: January 15, 2010, 02:45:12 pm »

Unvote

dorf


Really? After that conversation, you make a vote like that? Did you just not read it? Did you just not care?

I didn't even think you were scum till just then.
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Re: BM8: The Eclipse (Day 1: Spies? On my spaceship?)
« Reply #187 on: January 15, 2010, 02:59:18 pm »

I read until the post I quoted, then I posted, then I continued to read.
It wouldn't have changed my mind, anyway. Remember, I thought I voted for ExKirby.
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Re: BM8: The Eclipse (Day 1: Spies? On my spaceship?)
« Reply #188 on: January 15, 2010, 03:12:55 pm »

I just remembered!  Dorf tried to vote ExKirby but didn't unvote first.
Oops. Unvote. Vote ExKirby.

Wow.
Ok, while I sort of did call this, I never thought he would actually *do* it after I called it.
If he turns out to be town then I will probably avoid playing with him in the future.  Is that wrong?  So much of his behavior has been anti-town.

Of course I fully expect him to be mafia and I will then congratulate him on fighting valiantly to the bitter end.
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Re: BM8: The Eclipse (Day 1: Spies? On my spaceship?)
« Reply #189 on: January 15, 2010, 03:25:43 pm »

I just remembered!  Dorf tried to vote ExKirby but didn't unvote first.
Oops. Unvote. Vote ExKirby.

Wow.
Ok, while I sort of did call this, I never thought he would actually *do* it after I called it.
If he turns out to be town then I will probably avoid playing with him in the future.  Is that wrong?  So much of his behavior has been anti-town.

Of course I fully expect him to be mafia and I will then congratulate him on fighting valiantly to the bitter end.
No need for you to say the bolded text. We all know it happens.
But by overreacting like that, it may look scummy to others. Remember, you were very persistent to get me lynched, and with that sentence, it seems like you're covering your tracks.
And I tend to disagree with the "So much of his behavior has been anti-town.", since I was pretty aggressive.

Of course, if I am scum, none of that will happen. But if I *am* town, then my sacrifice will not be in vain.
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Re: BM8: The Eclipse (Day 1: Spies? On my spaceship?)
« Reply #190 on: January 15, 2010, 03:29:58 pm »

You blew what I believed to be your pro-townieness with this.
I just remembered!  Dorf tried to vote ExKirby but didn't unvote first.
Oops. Unvote. Vote ExKirby.

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Re: BM8: The Eclipse (Day 1: Spies? On my spaceship?)
« Reply #191 on: January 15, 2010, 03:30:31 pm »

Of course, if I am scum, none of that will happen.
Sorry, that doesn't make sense. When I was writing my first draft of that post, I wrote how Rolan7 will seem scummy after my lynch, and how he will pay the price.

Btw, Rolan7: Why would you avoid playing with me, if I will be lynched as town?
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Re: BM8: The Eclipse (Day 1: Spies? On my spaceship?)
« Reply #192 on: January 15, 2010, 03:45:53 pm »

If he turns out to be town then I will probably avoid playing with him in the future.  Is that wrong?  So much of his behavior has been anti-town.

Yes, I would say that is wrong.  Let's suppose he's on the scumteam and he makes a bunch of critical errors that cost you the game (though it's generally clear that he's trying reasonably hard).  It's the first time he's ever played scum, and you're in a beginner's game.  Should you avoid playing with him in the future?

The answer is no.  I mean, he's probably not going to make it onto your "favorite scumbuddies" list, but you generally need to play multiple games with someone to figure out if they're one of those irritating game-costers or someone who just kind of sucks sometimes.  For reference, I've accidentally killed off 2/3 of the scumteam before (including myself) through dumb errors.  I've also played a town game in which I buddied up to the scumteam, wrote near-incomprehensible walls of emotional appeals for my "defense," threatened to quote my role PM, and ended the game by lynching a confirmed townie.  The townie in question left the boards.

In my defense, I was actually going insane at the time.  On the other hand, I like to think that I've developed into a pretty good player from my odd beginnings, and it saddens me that I won't get another chance to play with that guy--because I played one game terribly under difficult circumstances.  When I get a chance, he's still at the top of my "favorite scumbuddy" list.

So, to make a long story short, I believe in giving people second chances.  Take a break from playing with him, perhaps, but don't close that door forever unless you think it's really worth it.  We're still a small enough community that it can be tough to avoid somebody--and often, playing games with the people you consider trouble can help both of you grow.


Of course, if I am scum, none of that will happen. But if I *am* town, then my sacrifice will not be in vain.

Don't waffle.  This used to be one of my worst habits--I'd obsessively speak from an objective perspective in Mafia games.  Whether you're town or scum, doodabuddy, you'd better be speaking like you're Town and Proud of It.


Of course, if I am scum, none of that will happen.
Sorry, that doesn't make sense. When I was writing my first draft of that post, I wrote how Rolan7 will seem scummy after my lynch, and how he will pay the price.

This, too.  Pay attention: after a townie goes down from a fight, you cannot necessarily paint the other one scum.  Revenge-statements on whoever took you down just hurt the town, since at the beginning of a new day they should look at everyone and re-evaluate the circumstances--not just the one who shouted loudly for that one townie's death.
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Re: BM8: The Eclipse (Day 1: Spies? On my spaceship?)
« Reply #193 on: January 15, 2010, 03:54:20 pm »

Even more so ifwhen you (dorf) flip scum.
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Re: BM8: The Eclipse (Day 1: Spies? On my spaceship?)
« Reply #194 on: January 15, 2010, 04:15:17 pm »

Ok, I'll take it into consideration for my future games. I thought, I was being helpful for townies.

Btw, are there any helpful alternatives that don't look bad, or at least not AS bad?
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