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Author Topic: BM8: The Eclipse (End: Town Victory)  (Read 56733 times)

Vector

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I'm posting this whlie experiancing the aftereffects of genral anesthetic. i hate dentists
Forgive me for probably not being able to post very much. or very clearly.

Heh, I remember when that happened to me... it was awesome.  I hallucinated that the walls were blue and started screaming because I thought the universe was going to disappear.

I suggest not posting until you're non-drugged.  Makes everything better >_>
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As to why I haven't posted today:

c) No one said anything I need to respond to.

Also Akigagak only posted to preemptively apologize for not posting very much or very clearly.  But somehow I'm not surprised that you latch on me for not posting before noon. 

FYI I was up until 7AM on Dwarven Science, but I didn't feel it necessary to share.
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@Errol: I'm thinking through Rolan7. I feel like he's probably town, and he hasn't done anything thoroughly scummy that I can tell.

Plus, he's trying to persuade. You're not. You're just pushing him. I mean, what is your man argument? Where is your evidence? You didn't post any of it.

Sure, I'm grouping right now. But, I'll probably do so in small contexts. You didn't make any reference to Akigagak. You just made reference about Rolan7. And it was far worse for Akigagak, especially considering he was on a few minutes after I had initially posted, but then came back drugged-up unable to play. He's had a lot of chances to post. You're not considering any of this. But, you say he's equally scummy. HOW ODD?!?

I mean, what's up with that?
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@Errol: I'm thinking through Rolan7. I feel like he's probably town, and he hasn't done anything thoroughly scummy that I can tell.

If "probably" doesn't cut it for you, there's no reason for me to accept that measly little explanation. With "probably" in it. Are you just trying to protect your scumbuddy, or what?

Plus, he's trying to persuade. You're not. You're just pushing him. I mean, what is your man argument? Where is your evidence? You didn't post any of it.

You might have lost it in all the walls of text, but I indeed had an argument at the beginning. Just because I didn't pull a quadrillion of quotes to support it it still doesn't mean it isn't there. And as long as Rolan left it half-adressed at best, it didn't go away.
It is also very, very hard to persuade inactives. When the main argument took place, inteuniso and Therion weren't there and Akigagak was on my side. Nobody to persuade. Would you bother with persuasion in this context? Really? You're not even trying to persuade yourself. You already locked on and installed tunnelvision.

Sure, I'm grouping right now. But, I'll probably do so in small contexts. You didn't make any reference to Akigagak. You just made reference about Rolan7. And it was far worse for Akigagak, especially considering he was on a few minutes after I had initially posted, but then came back drugged-up unable to play. He's had a lot of chances to post. You're not considering any of this. But, you say he's equally scummy. HOW ODD?!?

I mean, what's up with that?

Using the RL of people to prove your argument is very bad form. We don't know what he did in those few minutes, had to do, or whatever. For all we know he could only have been there for these few minutes between work/school and dentist, for example. To summarize: This doesn't prove anything.
Are you trying to distract from your grouping by trying to adress it in a "Oh, by the way..." manner? You're trying to pass it off as a perfectly natural and healthy thing when it is, in fact, too hasty. At the very least.
Also, Akigagak had a better excuse than Rolan. There is always something relevant to answer on, or to provide opinions for. Dentists are a force of nature.

Mod, do something about inteuniso, pronto.
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Haha. Rolan7 has done milestones better than Akigagak. You still won't admit that Akigagak hasn't mentioned anything I've said to him. He hasn't answered any questions I've posed. He's simply avoiding me.

I have no idea what you're thinking if you're missing the clearly obvious. And it is obvious. Defending Akigagak in this manner, when he hasn't done anything. You're just pointing out Rolan7. You're not saying, "Odd. Akigagak is, in fact, avoiding answering your questions." You're saying, "Akigagak? Look at Rolan7!" It's a pathetically odd that you're not even BOTHERING to look at Akigagak. Make a case. Explain how he is definitely town, and I'll show you how you're wrong.

I'd also like an Extension, until intueniso is actually replaced. Because this is ridiculous.
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Thank you for delivering me my retort, free of charge:

I have no idea what you're thinking if you're missing the clearly obvious. And it is obvious. Defending Rolan7 in this manner, when he hasn't done anything. You're just pointing out Akigagak. You're not saying, "Odd. Rolan7 is, in fact, avoiding answering your questions. Oh, wait, we haven't even questioned him. My bad." You're saying, "Rolan7? Look at Akigagak!" It's a pathetically odd that you're not even BOTHERING to seriously look at Rolan7. Make a case. Explain how he is definitely town, and I'll show you how you're wrong.

I WILL look at both if they don't post today or come up with froggy excuses. I expect the same of you, however.

AFAIK the deadline is frozen until the replacement is done. If this is the case, an extension is the last thing we need. Otherwise, I'd support.
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Thank you for delivering me my retort, free of charge:

I have no idea what you're thinking if you're missing the clearly obvious. And it is obvious. Defending Rolan7 in this manner, when he hasn't done anything. You're just pointing out Akigagak. You're not saying, "Odd. Rolan7 is, in fact, avoiding answering your questions. Oh, wait, we haven't even questioned him. My bad." You're saying, "Rolan7? Look at Akigagak!" It's a pathetically odd that you're not even BOTHERING to seriously look at Rolan7. Make a case. Explain how he is definitely town, and I'll show you how you're wrong.

Webadict did question me, remember?  He asked Akiagak and me why we thought the other was scum.  I responded with a step-by-step case against Akigagak.  Akigagak responded by quoting something I said and calling it scummy.  Webadict insisted that Akigagak provide a case, and Akigagak failed to reply.  Eventually he came up with a RL reason *which could be a fabrication for all you know, yet you trusted him implicitly while criticising me for being quiet for a much shorter time*.

Webadict also asked us who we considered likely second scum.  I chose you at first, for being scummy.  Then I reconsidered and got suspicious of Webadict for asking, thinking he was maybe causing trouble and trying to buddy with me.  I reached out to you, trying to convince you to consider Akigagak.  Your response?  Completely ignored all that and criticized me for being too quiet.

So no, Webadict and I aren't buddying.  We're being excluded by you and Akigagak who are glued together so hard you won't let anyone in.
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Thank you for delivering me my retort, free of charge:

I have no idea what you're thinking if you're missing the clearly obvious. And it is obvious. Defending Rolan7 in this manner, when he hasn't done anything. You're just pointing out Akigagak. You're not saying, "Odd. Rolan7 is, in fact, avoiding answering your questions. Oh, wait, we haven't even questioned him. My bad." You're saying, "Rolan7? Look at Akigagak!" It's a pathetically odd that you're not even BOTHERING to seriously look at Rolan7. Make a case. Explain how he is definitely town, and I'll show you how you're wrong.

I WILL look at both if they don't post today or come up with froggy excuses. I expect the same of you, however.

AFAIK the deadline is frozen until the replacement is done. If this is the case, an extension is the last thing we need. Otherwise, I'd support.
Well well well... where to begin.

1. You haven't asked Rolan7 any questions.
2. You haven't asked ME any questions.
3. If you're going to talk about tunnelvisioning, I'm going to go with the two people voting for Rolan7 here as tunnelvisioning.
4. I actually am watching Rolan7. He has, in fact, not shown up for a very long time. [PRE-POST EDIT:] Never mind, he's right there.
5. Copying my words straight back to me is not helping your case. You haven't even brought forth a good case.
6. If you were just siding with Akigagak, while there were two lurkers, weren't you going for the easy win, since there were two missing people.
7. This also means you're simply waiting for someone to side with you. I, on the other hand, am waiting for Akigagak to actually post. He isn't posting, despite me asking him questions. If you have questions, perhaps you should ask them. Not that they aren't good questions, but your questions will most likely be irrelevant.
8. Don't be a moron. Siding with your partner right away is stupid, unless you actually have a compelling case. You don't have a compelling case, since you are not positive that Rolan7 is scum. Probably because you're scum, and can never make a good case against him. You're trying to use peer pressure, which is an okay way to go, but it's not effective against people that play regularly.
9. I'm waiting for a replacement. SirBayer isn't even trying to find one.

And 10. Next time you're scum with Akigagak, kill Akigagak right away. He'll end up siding with you in the end, and exposing you. Especially if you're purposefully trying to hide.
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Should I be actively looking for a replacement? :I I was under the impression that as a host, you announced it in as many places as possible and then just waited. Sort of like advertising for a job.
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You should ask a few people. It helps move games along.
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Should I be actively looking for a replacement? :I I was under the impression that as a host, you announced it in as many places as possible and then just waited. Sort of like advertising for a job.

Dude, I thought he was back and playing... I think this counts as a double-flake >_>

I'll put up a notice in the replacements thread right away.
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Thanks, I'll look into it. Probably aim at the not-obscenely-skilled side of the spectrum this time.
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So, we only have
Intensomething
Aki
Errol 
And Webadict?

So you have to all vote one person, or have the scum kill you. >.>
Day Extend might be a good idea.
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Vector

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Rolan7.
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Okay. So one more day until lylo.
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