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Author Topic: BM8: The Eclipse (End: Town Victory)  (Read 56996 times)

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@_@

"Town-IC, it is lylo" proclaimed Scum-IC.  "It is extremely lylo.  Have you forgotten that we have two scumbuckets here running around, attempting to cover innocents in algae?"

For cryin' out loud.
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We have two?
Oh.
Woops.

Erm....
Rolan.
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We have two?
Oh.
Woops.

Yeah, I've mentioned it being lylo a few times.  If all three town don't vote the same scum, we lose because scum will cause a tie or townlynch.

Erm....
Rolan.[/font]

Um, can I help you?
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Errol

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Okay, I think I should start from a blank slate, here. Unvote.

Akigagak hasn't posted. SirBayer, please prod. AMD GET THAT DAMN REPLACEMENT IN HERE. We're basically unable to do anything until you finally replace inteuniso and get everyone in the thread.



1. You haven't asked Rolan7 any questions.

That's true, actually, at least as far as I can remember. Either that or I didn't get answers.

2. You haven't asked ME any questions.

Would you care expending the same amount of effort on other people?

Are you trying to distract people from your person?

Are you just trying to protect your scumbuddy, or what?

Would you bother with persuasion in this context?

These are still questions I asked, and questions I wanted to be answered. I don't think you actually did that, apart from the first.


3. If you're going to talk about tunnelvisioning, I'm going to go with the two people voting for Rolan7 here as tunnelvisioning.

Point taken and adressed.

4. I actually am watching Rolan7. He has, in fact, not shown up for a very long time. [PRE-POST EDIT:] Never mind, he's right there.

Good. Would you please mind asking him a few questions, now?

5. Copying my words straight back to me is not helping your case. You haven't even brought forth a good case.

It was to show that you really should look in the mirror before accusing me. If you try to deflect my question about your relationship to Rolan7 with two sentences, well, that's what you get.

6. If you were just siding with Akigagak, while there were two lurkers, weren't you going for the easy win, since there were two missing people?

I would have done the same thing if everyone was there. What Akigagak did is not my matter. You say I was siding with Akigagak, but can you prove that? Can you prove I was actively trying to get him to my side? All I can see is Akigagak driving in my slipstream, and that would be Akigagak buddying with me.

7. This also means you're simply waiting for someone to side with you. I, on the other hand, am waiting for Akigagak to actually post. He isn't posting, despite me asking him questions. If you have questions, perhaps you should ask them. Not that they aren't good questions, but your questions will most likely be irrelevant.

Well, I am waiting for him, too. And, since you want me to, here are my questions.

1. Akigagak, why did you join my position without a question?
2. Akigagak, why did you sabotage the roleclaim like you did?
3. Akigagak, why didn't you tell us earlier about your role clarification info you got from SirBayer (allegedly)?
4. Akigagak, why did you get so personal against Rolan7?

That's what I'd like to know from him. Others might want to know the exact same, but that's what interests me.
Everything I wanted to know from Rolan7 I already posted in the wall-of-text-war. But to sum it up - Rolan7, please contradict my thesis that you were ignoring parts of the posts.

8. Don't be a moron. Siding with your partner right away is stupid, unless you actually have a compelling case. You don't have a compelling case, since you are not positive that Rolan7 is scum. Probably because you're scum, and can never make a good case against him. You're trying to use peer pressure, which is an okay way to go, but it's not effective against people that play regularly.

Okay, but this is not what happened. We all know that the whole thing was a bloody huge waste of time that devolved into a muddy mess thanks to Akigagak's lapses in proper manners, and the answers to that. However, I repeat my point that you have to prove that *I* was siding with *him*.

9. I'm waiting for a replacement. SirBayer isn't even trying to find one.

That's nothing I can influence.

And 10. Next time you're scum with Akigagak, kill Akigagak right away. He'll end up siding with you in the end, and exposing you. Especially if you're purposefully trying to hide.

What's that supposed to be? Advice?

Webadict did question me, remember?  He asked Akiagak and me why we thought the other was scum.  I responded with a step-by-step case against Akigagak.  Akigagak responded by quoting something I said and calling it scummy.  Webadict insisted that Akigagak provide a case, and Akigagak failed to reply.  Eventually he came up with a RL reason *which could be a fabrication for all you know, yet you trusted him implicitly while criticising me for being quiet for a much shorter time*.

RL reasons are fine. But "There's nothing for me to reply on" is not. It shows you'd theoretically have time, but practically you prefer to lurk. Because there's always a reason to post.

Webadict also asked us who we considered likely second scum.  I chose you at first, for being scummy.  Then I reconsidered and got suspicious of Webadict for asking, thinking he was maybe causing trouble and trying to buddy with me.  I reached out to you, trying to convince you to consider Akigagak.  Your response?  Completely ignored all that and criticized me for being too quiet.

So no, Webadict and I aren't buddying.  We're being excluded by you and Akigagak who are glued together so hard you won't let anyone in.

I think I was too caught up with Webadict there... something to not repeat... Anyway...

What you said might be true, but consider the following:
- You haven't really been all too contributive. For example, you didn't ask any questions.
- What tipped me off was the lack of interaction between you and Webadict overall. He asked you a question, you responded, that's been it. That looks somewhat odd.
- I'm waiting for Akigagak to actually post something meaningful so that I can reconsider my opinion of him.

Burned out... phew, I have no more time for this... waiting for webadict to rip my post to pieces...
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If he were just under anesthetic, I'm not going to bother him about it just yet. I'm sorry to extend the day indefinitely, but that's just what's going to need to happen.

Still working on that replacement.
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Aaaaaaand Leafsnail's going to replace inteuniso, once he catches up.
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Errol

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Finally.
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Webadict did question me, remember?  He asked Akiagak and me why we thought the other was scum.  I responded with a step-by-step case against Akigagak.  Akigagak responded by quoting something I said and calling it scummy.  Webadict insisted that Akigagak provide a case, and Akigagak failed to reply.  Eventually he came up with a RL reason *which could be a fabrication for all you know, yet you trusted him implicitly while criticising me for being quiet for a much shorter time*.

RL reasons are fine. But "There's nothing for me to reply on" is not. It shows you'd theoretically have time, but practically you prefer to lurk. Because there's always a reason to post.

Going around in circles, posting for the sake of posting, isn't going to help anything.  I'm waiting for Leafsnail's reaction to what's already been said.  Why are you so eager to move on to... what topics exactly?

Webadict also asked us who we considered likely second scum.  I chose you at first, for being scummy.  Then I reconsidered and got suspicious of Webadict for asking, thinking he was maybe causing trouble and trying to buddy with me.  I reached out to you, trying to convince you to consider Akigagak.  Your response?  Completely ignored all that and criticized me for being too quiet.

So no, Webadict and I aren't buddying.  We're being excluded by you and Akigagak who are glued together so hard you won't let anyone in.

I think I was too caught up with Webadict there... something to not repeat... Anyway...

What you said might be true, but consider the following:
- You haven't really been all too contributive. For example, you didn't ask any questions.
Not asking any questions.  You're saying I'm not asking any questions.  Really.  Srsly.
I guess you're just "considering" akigagak out of boredom, not because of the questions I've had to ask over and over and over again for about a week because you have constantly refused to address them?
Hey, if inaction is ok as long as I have a RL reason like Akigagak, here's one: your hypocrisy and audacity gives me a headache.  (also more seriously an ice storm just hit my state, and my power may go out soon.  Not that I expect you to believe me since I'm not Akigagak.)
- What tipped me off was the lack of interaction between you and Webadict overall. He asked you a question, you responded, that's been it. That looks somewhat odd.
Two questions, then I openly accused him of trying to raise trouble.  Hey look you're being inaccurate as usual!
But that's how scumhunting works.  They answer the questions, and everyone judges the answers.
- I'm waiting for Akigagak to actually post something meaningful so that I can reconsider my opinion of him.

Haha, I bet you are.  Instead of waiting for a meaningful post so you can deem him meaningful, why don't you judge what he's already said?  We're 27 pages in, there's plenty of material for you to judge.  No, obviously you're waiting for him to come up with something even superficially meaningful so you can justify not voting your scumbuddy.

Burned out... phew, I have no more time for this... waiting for webadict to rip my post to pieces...

No need, I decided to return the favor.  A week locked up with two scum and no town has left me... a bit spiteful.
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Hi, guys.  I'll get started as soon as I get my role pm.
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SirBayer

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There are enough players now. Deadline is Wednesday, 10:00 AM PST.
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Well, I've finally got my damn role pm.  Navigator, if you're interested.

Anyway, Akigigak hasn't been posting.  He needs to get the hell down here pronto.  However, do you know who else hasn't been posting for the last couple of days in spite of yelling at everyone to get down here?  Webadict.  So, webadict, I suppose you thought you had a win in the bag then?  All you had to do was lurk until deadline while activity died, right?  If you needed an extension so much, why haven't you done anything with it?

Also - votecount?
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Errol

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Too late today, will post tomorrow.
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Lynch all Lurkers.
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Vector

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Lynch all Lurkers.

Nice to hear that coming from you, of all people >_>
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I only have one vote, Org <.<
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