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[MarcAFK]

Oh, duh of course. But you're right about rec being unneeded. So, armour then.
Edit: I just designed this, the armour is not a major difference, only contributing 100k tons. But cost wise you're adding a third more with the extra 12000 duranium needed for armour. Looking at the design screen this thing is 76% harvester module even without the added armour. It's not getting any smaller.
Personally I would prefer making 2 platforms with 300 modules and 100 million storage.  It'll cost slightly more because of the extra habitat, but moving it is easier and importantly you'll have the first one ready in half the time, time it can spend harvesting fuel.

[Culise]

Well, a RecFac means this thing doesn't need to actually carry around 10k people with it, so it's not completely redundant unless you already intend to use the OrbHabs to support civilian populations (instead of just bypassing the need to otherwise expand a shipyard to over 2.1 million tons).  That said, I wonder about the purpose of shore leave facilities when this station doesn't have any capacity to maintain military ships.  Apart from geosurvey ships, civilians don't typically care all that much about morale.  Maintenance modules are civilian-compatible, though you would need to use engineering bays for MSP storage as maintenance storage bays are military-only. 

[EuchreJack]

I always wondered if fuel/mineral harvesters were effected by morale.

[Flying Dice]

TBH though it really doesn't need to be that large. 200m liter fuel capacity is pretty massive already, and it produces a bit under 38.4m per year. You're not going to need production like that in anything short of a major hub for a multi-century old player race. Just build one that produces, say, 2-3m/year and stores 100m. It'll be tiny and cheap in comparison, can be left on its own for the most part, and will still supply the fuel needs of anything short of a fleet with scores of capital ships. If you need more production capacity... build another one!

Seriously, for the most part the timeframe you're playing in has very little need for massive industrial capacity beyond wanting to build fuckoff huge things just 'cause.

[QuakeIV]

I've used that amount pretty quickly before, I think you guys might over-emphasize fuel effeciency in your warships a bit.

[Rince Wind]

I usually use harvester ships that can move between 700 and 1000km/s on their own. Easier to relocate, more flexible (multiple small refuel stations in different systems, so your explorers don't need to fly so far just to refuel). More expensive as well over time, but you also train some more officers. I just have a tanker that flies around to collect the fuel and dump it where it is needed. You also don't need that many fuel tanks, because the harvesters can usually fly to a moon and dump it there if needed.

[Azated]

Just heard about the new version so obviously I had to install it. I encountered an install error (surprise surprise) that I've never seen before. This one came from installing the suggested package on the portable launcher page.

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[Lossmar]

Just heard about the new version so obviously I had to install it. I encountered an install error (surprise surprise) that I've never seen before. This one came from installing the suggested package on the portable launcher page.

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Why arent you using Portable Launcher Utility ??

[MarcAFK]

My last game didn't last too long and I was still in ion level.
My first real tankers held 6 million fuel, and construction was just about to start on 200 module harvesters. My ships guzzled fuel like crazy.

[Vendayn]

I'm really glad Quill18 is doing a video series on this. I've tried getting into this a few times and was confused as hell. Farthest I got was with help of a guide, and I did some research and assigned jobs to people. This has always looked like an amazing game that is 100% my type, but boy was it too confusing And I don't do good with written guides at all, I need a nice detailed video or someone next to me to guide me. But usually if someone is next to me, they give up on me super fast xD And there weren't really that many videos that helped that much if I recall, if any, when I tried this (been a good three years now).

Playing distant worlds did definitely help some things, even if they are different. Some of the mechanics are a tad bit the same (at least to me, just a little). So it was kinda easy in figuring the basics out cause of DW. But still, Dwarf fortress I figured out on my own really easily with no issue at all, no videos needed. Aurora is a whole another level

But now with quill doing videos, I'll definitely be giving this another go. His first two videos have helped me understand way more than I did before lol. His new video he shows making a custom engine, I never even figured that part out before and explains a lot of confusion in designing a ship xD

[Paul]

I started a game with a 50 mil pop and 8 billion neutral pop on Earth. So I'm just in control of a small subset of the pop of Earth.

It makes the game interesting. Instead of turtling in Sol, the focus is on exploring and finding a good extrasolar colony site to begin shipping the neutral population off of Earth to. The first jump point I explored I found one with an atmosphere and only 1.5 temp cost, but my geo survey got nuked by what I assume was a precursor ship on the way to survey the planet. Time to see what my little fleet of five 7500 ton warships can do.

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Essex class Missile Frigate    7500 tons     181 Crew     1110.4 BP      TCS 150  TH 600  EM 0
4000 km/s     Armour 5-34     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control 4     PPV 18
Annual Failure Rate: 7%    IFR: 0.1%    Maintenance Capacity 370 MSP
Magazine 338   Spare Berths 3   

C&C 600 EP Ion Drive (1)    Power 600    Fuel Use 35%    Armour 0    Exp 10%
Fuel Capacity 300,000 Litres    Range 20.6 billion km   (59 days at full power)

C&C S4 Missile Launcher 40s (4)    Missile Size 4    Rate of Fire 40
C&C AMM Launcher 10s (2)    Missile Size 1    Rate of Fire 10
C&C AMM FC7-R1 (1)     Range 7.7m km    Resolution 1
C&C ASM FC76-R100 (1)     Range 76.8m km    Resolution 100
M1 Defender AMM (82)  Speed: 12,000 km/s   End: 26.2m    Range: 18.9m km   WH: 1    Size: 1    TH: 88 / 52 / 26
M1 Wasp ASM (64)  Speed: 10,300 km/s   End: 144.8m    Range: 89.5m km   WH: 6    Size: 4    TH: 65 / 39 / 19

C&C Active Sensor MR7-R1 (1)     GPS 96     Range 7.7m km     Resolution 1
C&C Active Sensor MR76-R100 (1)     GPS 9600     Range 76.8m km     Resolution 100

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a military vessel for maintenance purposes

[EuchreJack]

Instead of criticizing the design, I'll start from the other end:
What do you know about the tech of your enemy?  How much damage did their missiles do, how fast were they going, how big were they?

Destruction of a ship reveals at least some of that.

[Paul]

Oh, they're way more advanced than my ships. They are precursors, after all. 6666km/s speed, 176m range sensors (triple my low tech ones). Much better missiles and sensor range.

My little fleet managed to sneak up on and wipe out the one ship that had nuked my geo survey ship, but I was unaware of the presence of other ships. Five other ships with significantly longer ranged active sensors and missiles converged on my ships shortly after they destroyed the first. My little fleet was quickly overwhelmed by 29,000 km/s missiles. Only warhead 6 so it took a lot of hits to bust the armor, but they had a lot of missiles and my AMMs were only shooting down a couple. Had 3 volleys of 9 and 2 volleys of 8 coming at me every 25 seconds lol.

Will need to bring along a good passive sensor ship to scout them out and sneak up on them with a new fleet. Due to their ECM I need to be pretty close, it may not be doable with my current tech. A heavily armored blob to draw their fire might be advisable, along with a dedicated sensor ship to detect them and much larger fire controls and longer ranged missiles.

I'm not going to worry about it for now, the system will be ignored until I have the resources to combat them. I found another system next to Sol with good prospects and without the hostiles guarding it. The geo survey ship was avenged, the fleet of combat ships that avenged him will need to be avenged at a later date.

[Mini]

You need more anti-missile defense. Your current setup can't even take care of the launches from itself: you'll probably get two launches of 2 against each salvo, maybe 3, and with a ~26% chance to hit that means only one or two missiles destroyed per incoming salvo, when you're firing salvos of 4.

[Girlinhat]

Deploy the smallest ship you can with sensor missiles, probably fired at warp points as those are spread out pretty well.  Would suggest using passive EM sensors, as that size of actives on the precursors will shine like a lightbulb.  Once you have an idea of where they are, you can set up your tactics better.  Large armor+shield+active sensor chunk ship flanked by turrets of meson/lasers could have a good chance of hitting them at range.  Plus with one ship, it's easier to pack in CIWS since you know it'll be the target.  FAC with lasers/particles could also get your tracking speed up and more able to hit them.

Personally I'd probably go with high-burning fighter or FAC with close range weapons.  Size 2-5 engines with the maximum speed output, tiny fuel, no engineering, big weapon.  Box launchers or even carronades could dish out a lot of damage at close range.