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[gimlet]

For the "no colony within jump distance", did you check the "no auto route jump check" box on the orders page?   That *should* let it route over jump points as long as you have the appropriate sized jump-drive ship sitting on the jump point.    I usually give my Jump Tankers a big space for maint supplies too, making it a Jump Tender/Tanker, that lets the survey ships restock/refuel from them without making the long trek back and forth to Earth every time...

ED:  Reading the above - hmm I prefer it this way, with the survey ships non jump-capable and thus more expendable.  One JTT can handle multiple squadrons of survey ships with a *little* micromanagement.  And I can use the same design to shuttle fuel/maint to military fleets, and to  be a mobile gate for them too. 

[Shooer]

The most expensive thing in a 6k jump capable ship is the jump engine.  I rarely send more than one into a system anyway.  Expendable conscript ship is expendable. 

That and my grav survey ships are usually the second ship I start making after geo survey ships.  It doesn't take long to unlock jump drives, that and you also have little use knowing where jump points are with out jump drives anyway.  I see little reason to not make my grav survey ships jump capable.

I'm not a fan of having to make a ship designed to just support my survey group, especially if that ship can end up costing more.


I've ran a game where I didn't use a single jump drive and relied on gates for everything.  Was a slow game, but my military ships were silly massive balls of armor and missile tubes.

[Dorfs R Fun]

I always combine grav/geo/jump ships into one 5k package. They're slow as all hell but when they run in packs with a 2-3 yr maint life they get the job done pretty quick. I always give the order to divide on jump and 14 little buggers zerg survey the system and return to jump point all on their own.

[Lord Shonus]

This is my standard Geo and Grav survey designs, although I'm not actually using any at the moment (I captured a large number of survey ships in early wars when the Sol truce timer abruptly failed, and free beats pretty much any other factor for such things).

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Rockhound-A class Deep Space Survey Ship    1,000 tons     26 Crew     221 BP      TCS 20  TH 80  EM 0
4000 km/s    JR 1-50     Armour 1-8     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/1     Damage Control Rating 1     PPV 0
Maint Life 9.23 Years     MSP 138    AFR 8%    IFR 0.1%    1YR 3    5YR 44    Max Repair 100 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 6 months    Spare Berths 1   

JD-SV-01     Max Ship Size 1200 tons    Distance 50k km     Squadron Size 1
DU-LAC-01 (1)    Power 80    Fuel Use 66.5%    Signature 80    Exp 10%
Fuel Capacity 205,000 Litres    Range 55.5 billion km   (160 days at full power)

Geological Survey Sensors (1)   1 Survey Points Per Hour

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes


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Pathfinder-A class Deep Space Survey Ship    1,000 tons     26 Crew     221 BP      TCS 20  TH 80  EM 0
4000 km/s    JR 1-50     Armour 1-8     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/1/0     Damage Control Rating 1     PPV 0
Maint Life 9.23 Years     MSP 138    AFR 8%    IFR 0.1%    1YR 3    5YR 44    Max Repair 100 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 6 months    Spare Berths 1   

JD-SV-01     Max Ship Size 1200 tons    Distance 50k km     Squadron Size 1
DU-LAC-01 (1)    Power 80    Fuel Use 66.5%    Signature 80    Exp 10%
Fuel Capacity 205,000 Litres    Range 55.5 billion km   (160 days at full power)

Gravitational Survey Sensors (1)   1 Survey Points Per Hour

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes


They're cheap, reliable, and fairly efficient.

[Micro102]

Well, good news is my cargo ships can now transport. Bad news is I think I have a bug or two. My cargo ships got a conditional order to refuel, but not only did they get the "no colony within distance" problem while away from the Sol system, but after their normal orders brought them to the Sol system and they fulfilled the conditional orders, the conditional orders won't go away and erased all my other orders. It just keep sayings "cargo task group has fulfilled orders to refuel at earth" and the order to refuel just stays there while all my other orders are gone.

Also, when I check the "No auto-route jump check" box, it seems to uncheck itself at some point.

[iceball3]

Close In Weapons Systems: More useful than you think.
Sure a single one on a freighter isn't a whole lot, but have any of you tried seven? 28 shots every five seconds at my current tech level. My geosurvey group which has been accompanied by my junp freighter managed to flee from an enemy jump point ambush while my freighter swatted entire salvos out of the sky and tanked whatever managed to get through when they preformed coordinated strikes.

[MarcAFK]

It's very Gamey but using a high speed freighter that's all armour and CIWS is an excellent way of getting past AMM spam.

[Micro102]

It's very Gamey but using a high speed freighter that's all armour and CIWS is an excellent way of getting past AMM spam.

I don't think it's gamey. You are making a ship specifically for destroy missile spam. It's a massive heavily armored ship with a bunch of anti missile weapons. If that's gamey then building any other to be specialized for something is gamey.

[Sheb]

The gamey part is avoiding maintenance on a ship that you use for military purpose.

[Shooer]

That and being able to build it in a civilian yard.

[Sheb]

Also it means you can have it ridiculously huge (since civilian yard), and since enemies target bigger ships first, they'll only target that. So you're gaming the AI.

[Dorfs R Fun]

Just had the weirdest bug yet in my few years of playing Aurora. I'm as used to game breaking bugs as anyone who's spent any amount of time playing but this one takes the cake for me. I started a new game with no npr and no spoilers in an attempt to have a long term game between me, myself and I. Everything was going well between a 3 empire, 2 system map for about 60 years. During a time of extended peace I decided to advance the game a full year at 5 day intervals while I took a nap.

Long story short...

A few hours later I check back in and I see an error popped up. Had to exit the game and restart. Check the events page and I see thousands of 5 day intervals with no events. Check the date, holy shit it's the year 2113 (started the game in 2000). So I advance the game by one more day and page after page of events pop up.

Every single scientist, leader and captain just retired, everybody and their mother. Some were well past a hundred years old, but not a single construction or research has advanced a day. It has always been a love/hate relationship with aurora and today I HATE. I have no one.

[Rince Wind]

Turn on Spacemaster, open leader-window and "add extra". Wouldn't consider it cheating in this case.

[gimlet]

Angry at being denied access to your universe, alien agents attacked Earth with the Aging Ray...

[Micro102]

Ok, so any more comments on what could be wrong with my possible bug, or do I head over to the game's actual forums and probably get this fixed in....well, never.