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[EuchreJack]

The good news is that ships only burn fuel while they move or while shields are on (not sure on shield fuel usage).  So, your monster ship would only ever travel from jump point to jump point.  I'm not sure ships building jump gates are stationary, that would factor into whether the ship itself builds jumpgates or whether some other ship does so.  But fuel can be harvested with carry-along ships.

[Sirus]

Ships are stationary when building jump gates, and use no fuel. I speak from experience, having fleets of constructors moving from system to system for several years in between fuel stops.

[EuchreJack]

Well, then the monster ship should feature jump gate production capability.  Although, if we're talking a large lumbering ship, it might take so long to get to most jump points that a carried ship can build the jump gate in the meantime.

[Sirus]

I have a question regarding player's engine habits. I typically build a first-gen series of ships using the low tech crappy engines. While these work, and allow me to start exploring, I never seem to get around to upgrading them once I get better engine tech unless they all get destroyed somehow.

Do you guys tend to build up engine technology before launching your first ships, or upgrade them later? What I'm thinking is, since research doesn't seem to have any costs other than time, you could wait until your engines are at least ion or so before designing, and not lose any minerals. The faster ships would get things done much more quickly, and chances are you'd have some other improved techs as well.

[forsaken1111]

I tend to RP a bit while I play, so after a 10 year 'tour' most ships come in for refits and overhauls and part of that is updating their tech.

[EuchreJack]

I tend to base research decisions on the available starting scientists.  If I got a propulsion scientist, I'll usually wait until I have nuclear engines at least.  Otherwise, I'll go and make some basic engines, and hope to get a propulsion scientist soon.

That said, when I play with RPs, I tend to dump them into engine and jump tech almost exclusively.  I like to explore asap.

[miauw62]

These are missiles that are larger than some manned spacecraft. Case closed.

I agree 100% :3
Whats a better way to not miss then to make the bullets ridicously huge so they just CANT miss?

[Metalax]

I've been playing the 'if you don't have a scientist in that specialization, you don't get to research it' game recently, so I've had great fun surveying and colonising the sol system with conventional engines.

On another note Steve has said that he is aiming for the release of 5.70 sometime over easter weekend.

[RedKing]

I have a question regarding player's engine habits. I typically build a first-gen series of ships using the low tech crappy engines. While these work, and allow me to start exploring, I never seem to get around to upgrading them once I get better engine tech unless they all get destroyed somehow.

Do you guys tend to build up engine technology before launching your first ships, or upgrade them later? What I'm thinking is, since research doesn't seem to have any costs other than time, you could wait until your engines are at least ion or so before designing, and not lose any minerals. The faster ships would get things done much more quickly, and chances are you'd have some other improved techs as well.

Since engine upgrades typically have a higher than 50% refit cost, I pretty much never refit for new engines. I'll use the old ships in a reserve capcity for a while, then eventually scrap them. I typically try to hit ion engines before doing anything more advanced than a geosurvey boat. If I'm playing from a conventional start, I'll get to at least Nuclear Pulse before doing shipbuilding. Nuclear Therm is just painful slow and Conventional is LOLno.

[Karlito]

Since engine upgrades typically have a higher than 50% refit cost, I pretty much never refit for new engines. I'll use the old ships in a reserve capcity for a while, then eventually scrap them. I typically try to hit ion engines before doing anything more advanced than a geosurvey boat. If I'm playing from a conventional start, I'll get to at least Nuclear Pulse before doing shipbuilding. Nuclear Therm is just painful slow and Conventional is LOLno.

Ok, I think this is something I've failed to understand for a while, and one of you guys can probably explain. Even if the refit cost is 60%, it's still faster and cheaper than building a completely new ship, right? So what's the advantage gained in building new ships from scratch and scrapping the old ones?

[Metalax]

The primary advantage is that you now have two ships, your new one for real duties and the older one for system defense/secondry duties. It is also that if you are simply refiting all the time then during that period you have a reduced number of ships available.

That said, I still tend to go for the refitting of older ships once I've new built enough ships to cover them while they are refitting as that retains their taskforce training and crew grade as long as there is not a massive difference in crew size to the new design.

[Flying Dice]

I will typically wait a generation to refit. So I've got a line of missile destroyers. I have a number of Mk. IIs, design the Mk. III, start building those. A bit later, I design the Mk. IV. If the refit from Mk. II to Mk. IV is <100% construction costs, I refit. Otherwise, I relegate them to system defense.

[Canuhearmenow]

This is fantastic, I did a detailed scan of every system I have discovered, checking the orbital distance of every planet and [closest to it's planet] moon, found plenty of 10-30k orbital distances, and one 2.2k, but no 0.0k, and I'm still getting the division by zero orbital error every 5 days.

[Tarran]

Hmm...

Do you have any NPRs? Maybe they found the bugged system?

[Canuhearmenow]

Hmm...

Do you have any NPRs? Maybe they found the bugged system?

I set it to 0 NPRs but a high level of gen if I find a natural 0.0 col cost world, but oddly enough I do have the The Swarm and Precursors. Even stranger, sometime in 2040 I got a VERY long view of a battle in a system between god knows what (14 wrecks with life pods) even though I never sent a ship into the system. So essentially the computer auto-discovered the system (didn't even have Jump Points) just to show me a battle between someone on a col cost 0.0 world, and someone else.

So the short answer, yes, I think I have NPRs.