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[Zangi]

So, we are reduced to nit-picking about recycling and the real life brand of realism?

[Demonic Spoon]

Apparently.

[alway]

So, I got a bit bored and went into SM mode. And ended up creating a new ship design afterwards!

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Civilization class Mothership    40,324,250 tons     350955 Crew     5253956 BP      TCS 806485  TH 3500  EM 315000
433 km/s     Armour 1-10475     Shields 10500-300     Sensors 3750/400/50/50     Damage Control Rating 301     PPV 23700
Annual Failure Rate: 13008361104%    IFR: 180671682%    Maint Capacity 10081 MSP    Max Repair 27000 MSP    Est Time: 0 Years
Cargo 5000000    Colonists 5000000    Habitation Capacity 5,000,000    Cargo Handling Multiplier 800    Tractor Beam     
Jump Gate Construction Ship: 20 days
Terraformer: 200 module(s) producing 1.6 atm per annum
Asteroid Miner: 400 module(s) producing 28000 tons per mineral per annum
Salvager: 2 module(s) capable of salvaging 5000 tons per day

Photonic Drive E1 ARM-10 (700)    Power 500    Fuel Use 10%    Signature 5    Armour 10    Exp 5%    Hyper Capable
Fuel Capacity 200,000,000 Litres    Range 89.1 billion km   (2380 days at full power)
Omega R300/15 Shields (700)   Total Fuel Cost  10,500 Litres per day

Quad 80cm C25 Far Gamma Ray Laser Turret (100x4)    Range 1,400,000km     TS: 20000 km/s     Power 672-100     RM 12    ROF 35        168 168 168 168 168 168 168 168 168 168
Quad 30cm C25 Far Gamma Ray Laser Turret (200x4)    Range 1,400,000km     TS: 20000 km/s     Power 96-100     RM 12    ROF 5        24 24 24 24 24 24 24 24 24 24
Fire Control S04 700-25000 H10 (50)    Max Range: 1,400,000 km   TS: 25000 km/s     99 99 98 97 96 96 95 94 94 93
Vacuum Energy Power Plant Technology PB-1 AR-10 (30)     Total Power Output 36000    Armour 10    Exp 5%

Active Search Sensor MR6750-R1 (10%) (2)     GPS 9000     Range 6,750.0m km    Resolution 1
Thermal Sensor TH50-3750 (10%) (2)     Sensitivity 3750     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  3750m km
EM Detection Sensor EM50-400 (1)     Sensitivity 400     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  400m km
Phased Gravitational Sensors (10)   50 Survey Points Per Hour
Phased Geological Sensors (10)   50 Survey Points Per Hour

ECCM-9 (10)         ECM 90

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

The first 5 just finished building. 

[Cheese]

So, I got a bit bored and went into SM mode. And ended up creating a new ship design afterwards!

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Civilization class Mothership    40,324,250 tons     350955 Crew     5253956 BP      TCS 806485  TH 3500  EM 315000
433 km/s     Armour 1-10475     Shields 10500-300     Sensors 3750/400/50/50     Damage Control Rating 301     PPV 23700
Annual Failure Rate: 13008361104%    IFR: 180671682%    Maint Capacity 10081 MSP    Max Repair 27000 MSP    Est Time: 0 Years
Cargo 5000000    Colonists 5000000    Habitation Capacity 5,000,000    Cargo Handling Multiplier 800    Tractor Beam     
Jump Gate Construction Ship: 20 days
Terraformer: 200 module(s) producing 1.6 atm per annum
Asteroid Miner: 400 module(s) producing 28000 tons per mineral per annum
Salvager: 2 module(s) capable of salvaging 5000 tons per day

Photonic Drive E1 ARM-10 (700)    Power 500    Fuel Use 10%    Signature 5    Armour 10    Exp 5%    Hyper Capable
Fuel Capacity 200,000,000 Litres    Range 89.1 billion km   (2380 days at full power)
Omega R300/15 Shields (700)   Total Fuel Cost  10,500 Litres per day

Quad 80cm C25 Far Gamma Ray Laser Turret (100x4)    Range 1,400,000km     TS: 20000 km/s     Power 672-100     RM 12    ROF 35        168 168 168 168 168 168 168 168 168 168
Quad 30cm C25 Far Gamma Ray Laser Turret (200x4)    Range 1,400,000km     TS: 20000 km/s     Power 96-100     RM 12    ROF 5        24 24 24 24 24 24 24 24 24 24
Fire Control S04 700-25000 H10 (50)    Max Range: 1,400,000 km   TS: 25000 km/s     99 99 98 97 96 96 95 94 94 93
Vacuum Energy Power Plant Technology PB-1 AR-10 (30)     Total Power Output 36000    Armour 10    Exp 5%

Active Search Sensor MR6750-R1 (10%) (2)     GPS 9000     Range 6,750.0m km    Resolution 1
Thermal Sensor TH50-3750 (10%) (2)     Sensitivity 3750     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  3750m km
EM Detection Sensor EM50-400 (1)     Sensitivity 400     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  400m km
Phased Gravitational Sensors (10)   50 Survey Points Per Hour
Phased Geological Sensors (10)   50 Survey Points Per Hour

ECCM-9 (10)         ECM 90

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

The first 5 just finished building. 

You just gave me an amazing idea. Use SM to make a mothership for my race to live on and abandon all planets. Like in Homeworld.

[Earthquake Damage]

Congratulations!  You've built an expensive PDC.

[Tarran]

The there are two problems with that ship. One is that there isn't enough maintenance for repairs if the ship is damaged severely and is alone. Another is that it doesn't have any missile weapons at all, meaning it always has to advance before engaging, which is really bad since any enemy missile ship faster than your mother ship can outrun it indefinitely and continue bombarding it from a distance.

[Grax]

So, I got a bit bored and went into SM mode. And ended up creating a new ship design afterwards!
Civilization class Mothership    40,324,250 tons     350955 Crew     5253956 BP      TCS 806485  TH 3500  EM 315000


Annual Failure Rate: 13008361104%

I'm afraid of this number.

[Earthquake Damage]

As I said, it's a glorified PDC.  It's too slow to catch enemy ships.  It's easily detected, which combined with its speed gives enemy civs plenty of time to gather/build forces to fight it.  Missile boats can attack it with impunity.  It's also quite possibly too slow to catch a planet once it leaves orbit.

[Micro102]

That thing is going to break down 4 times a second lol. Hope you turned that off.

[Torham]

Just thought I add my two pence in the discussion.
I personally like the fact that you have to explore to find new minerals. I always play space empires 5 with limited resources. I like to generate aurora few times to get as little as possible of starting resources on earth, so I have to explore the system and set up new mining colonies and freight lines. I can certainly see uses of TN materials in the factories and buildings. When you start the game you presumably have the earth at its pinnacle of engineering, yet you can easily double the production speeds after just a couple of years using new TN factories. I can even see uses of TN in infrastructure. Imagine TN style railroads, super-strong city sized pressurized bubbles for colonization, extremely efficient sorium energy generators, elevators/cars/lorries using antigravity. Sure the civilian infrastructure can/will be build from ordinary resources but the neat, state sponsored stuff will be much more useful. As for recycling exploded missiles, that is just daft. The fact that the dust like particles will be in motion forever, being in space and all, the capturing and reusing them would be an impossible task. Most of the dust would after couple of years fall into the sun and burn. even after centuries of warfare there would not be enough dust around to even register on sensors. There is no need anyway, there is literary tons of minerals all around, why would you chase around for few microns all around the solar system. As for soruim the recycling is quite simply impossible, it being burned and turned into different chemical compounds. With any luck you may discover 1 - 2 gas giants with atmosphere loaded with sorium, all you need to do is tow a couple of refineries and place them in orbit around the gas giant. they usually have millions of tons of sorium in them, more than you need for centuries of expansion.

[forsaken1111]

You just gave me an amazing idea. Use SM to make a mothership for my race to live on and abandon all planets. Like in Homeworld.

It would be absolutely massive for an orbital population center to take all of your 500 million starting population, and remember it cannot MOVE with a population unless it has an equal number of cryo berths.

That said, you would orbit a colony and population would simply EXPLODE out of the ship, generated from their breeding, then you could move on leaving the extras behind to continue on.

[Cheese]

In homeworld "The Mothership" was used by a load of people to escape their planet. It took so many people in cryo-bays and had little defensive features and was fairly slow on normal engines but it had a powerful jump drive and could manufacture other ships.

My mothership won't have manufacturing capabilities, though it will have huge storage of some sort. It'll be accompanied by a fleet of ships; Escort warships, geo/jump point survey vessels, asteroid miners, fuel/other cargo storage ships, and perhaps extra civilian cryo vessels. I will then proceed to go on some epic search for a new planet. 

[forsaken1111]

In homeworld "The Mothership" was used by a load of people to escape their planet. It took so many people in cryo-bays and had little defensive features and was fairly slow on normal engines but it had a powerful jump drive and could manufacture other ships.

My mothership won't have manufacturing capabilities, though it will have huge storage of some sort. It'll be accompanied by a fleet of ships; Escort warships, geo/jump point survey vessels, asteroid miners, fuel/other cargo storage ships, and perhaps extra civilian cryo vessels. I will then proceed to go on some epic search for a new planet. 

Turn on the sun warming thing to give yourself a time limit and actually build it ingame rather than using SM, then sail off with a few hundred thousand people and hope the rest are okay.

[Torham]

The only game where you could move entire planet populations I can think of is Stars!. It even had an Ethereral race, witch lived only on huge space stations.
I did made a couple of games where i would generate with race generator population that multiplied extremely slowly and had huge bonuses to production and I never colonized any planets. I would just remote - mine all the planets in the area, build vast armada and transport arks with the resources and lift the whole population and move to another suitable planet. You would eventually die because the AI would outproduct you.

[forsaken1111]

I want a game where we can move the PLANETS, ala the puppeteer Fleet of Worlds.