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[Tarran]

I agree with Rift, the only way you could be in that kind of situation is bad planing, an NPR wiping you on the floor and only leaving you with only a mineral-less planet, or the RNG really, really screwing you over. I mean, for one, the game gives you lots of Sorium from the get-go. Here's a example from a game I generated just for you.

((Note, 1 Sorium translates to 2,000 fuel))

From a brand new (500mil pop) test game, I got 3,360 Sorium already mined, and 36,150 to be mined. Which means I've got 79,020,000 litres of fuel just from earth. And, checking the entire system via SM reveal, I've got 7,357,202 more Sorium (6,569,430 from Saturn) (14,714,404,000 litres) in Sol, excluding Earth. Which is enough to power 73572.02 trips from a 200,000 liter ship.

And here's another example.

From another brand new (500mil pop) test game, I got 2,880 Sorium already mined, and 25,000 to be mined. Which means I've got 55,760,000 liters of fuel just from earth. And, there's also 353,559 more Sorium (707,118,000 litres) in Sol, excluding Earth. Which is enough to power 3535.59 trips from a 200,000 liter ship.

Plus, the game usually just throws tons (pun not intended) of minerals at you every time a new system is generated. Also, Geosurvey teams.

[Rift]

yea, if you get a high quality geo-survey team[200+], you can literally create near-infinite resources.

[zkline]

For what it's worth, I've yet to run into a situation where the game became so slow as to be unplayable.  I've had no issues with multiple colonies, and come to accept the NPR battles as just a part of the way the game works.  The author has explained the mechanics enough and it's something which is, in my opinion, better than the alternative.  I'd hate an AI which cheated more than this one does, and the fact it mostly plays like we do appeals a great deal to me.
Also, in case anybody's not watching the forum, the author is planning development of a new game, Aurora II, which will ideally eliminate many of the current game's foybles and interface issues, most noteably the resolution requirement.  This is a long term project, but still something to look forward to, along with new versions of Aurora itself of course.

[zkline]

On another note, congratulations on your victory, Alway.  It's that kind of wildly improbable story Aurora was designed to tell.  Hopefully your next ships will be as successful.

[Shade-o]

While I get that you're encouraged to expand, it would be nice if resources didn't run out forever, but got stuck at a very low level of production. You would still be better off moving the mines to a new boom-town, but it would mean that you have a marginally useful backup option in the worst case.

[Micro102]

1. Can't geo teams only find resources 3 times on each planet?

2. I manually input the millions of resources (random number generator) in myself. I have the millions but it just doesn't seem like it's ever enough. Maybe it's just my play style being too resource consuming.

3. Resources are random. Sometimes you start out with little sorium. Unless Steve changed it in one of the patches since I last played.

[Tarran]

1. Can't geo teams only find resources 3 times on each planet?

No, they can indefinitely find resources if the RNG allows it.

Every time additional minerals are added to the planet, or a deposit is changed to higher accessibility, a check is made to see if the geological survey team decides that further surveys are futile. This check is equal to 150-Team Skill with a minimum of 10, so a team with a skill of 140 or above will minimise the chance that surveys will miss potential deposits.

2. I manually input the millions of resources (random number generator) in myself. I have the millions but it just doesn't seem like it's ever enough. Maybe it's just my play style being too resource consuming.

If you really are running out of millions that fast, then it's very likely your play style. Millions of minerals should last you at the very least several years even in a large empire.

3. Resources are random. Sometimes you start out with little sorium. Unless Steve changed it in one of the patches since I last played.

Such is the evilness of the RNG. If you think you start out with too little Sorium, just cheat more in to Earth, or run the All Minerals function on the system. No one's stopping you, and there's nothing wrong with running the All Minerals function because it's just doing the same exact thing the game does when creating a new system.

[Micro102]

Sometimes I go a century without leaving the sol system

[Tarran]

Well then, that explains why you're running out of minerals.

[Earthquake Damage]

My biggest mineral sink was always buildings.

Speaking of which, that was probably another source of slowness for me.  I built waaay too many military academies, so I had thousands of officers after a few decades.  I also had an ungodly number of well-trained crewmen, so it wasn't all bad.

[Tarran]

Heh, I wonder how long the game freezes when a bunch of officers are released from the service due when deemed surplus.

[Cheese]

I don't see why people are moaning about running out of resources. It's realistic, and the accessibility does slope down to simulate your miners having to go further and further into the core to find the tiniest scraps of trans-Newtonian material.

[Micro102]

realistic would be the ability to recycle.

[Tarran]

Lolwut? The game already allows you to recycle most things (other then buildings, that is. But the thing is that the buildings are going to be useful the entire game so there's no need to recycle them). What else is there that can't be recycled?

[Micro102]

I haven't played in a while but don't ships only have part of their total mineral cost in their wreckage? And what about sorium wastes? Missiles? The massive amounts of resources spent on repairs?

Random clumps of resources from left over fighting could collect. That would be a good way to recycle.