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[Osmosis Jones]

Do I just have to keep researching smaller size/longer reload launcher techs?

[Micro102]

Smaller missile launchers > box launcher.

Smaller sized laser >

[Grendus]

Smaller missile launchers > box launcher.

Smaller sized laser >

There's research that does the same thing. Reduces size, increases charge time. The hardest part would be the reactor, enough of a reactor to charge a laser in any reasonable time would be kinda heavy. I'd go with meson though, being able to pierce a battleship's defenses while moving so fast would be effective - eventually you'll hit something vital.

[Earthquake Damage]

yeah. warhead strength is not incremental

Where the hell are people getting this?  Yes, it is incremental.  It's just sub-optimal if you want maximal armor penetration for your investment.  I don't know how high the damage goes in the template table, so it's possible that ultra-heavy warheads get clipped down.  If so, the maximum damage must be at least 168 since IIRC that's the maximum carronade damage.  Carronades use the missile damage templates IIRC.  Check Steve's recent post about damage templates.  He lists which weapons use which templates.  That post may also be confusing people, hence your "fine-tune your warhead strength because damage is not incremental" thing.

The optimal values in terms of depth-per-MSP are perfect squares (e.g. 1, 4, 9, 16).  For laser warheads, which presumably use the laser templates, it appears to be three times the perfect square.  Note that laser warheads reduce the warhead strength but AFAICT can get multiple hits, since there's some sort of "Laser Warheads:  X" count, though I haven't actually used one to confirm this.

[Greenbane]

Distance/ETA bug or what?

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That's completely off. There's around 30m km to the destination, not 3.33b! It's only a display thing, though, as it doesn't seem to affect the actual travel time.

[Earthquake Damage]

Nope, light goes 299,792,458 m/s, or 299,792.458 km/s

Really?  Somewhere along the way I picked up the idea that the meter was redefined at some point.  IIRC it was originally relative to the Earth's circumference (one quarter of the circumference being X km, though I can't recall X) but is now defined relative to c, which is precisely 3x10⁸ m/s.  Either there are two standards floating around or I absorbed some misinformation (a common occurrence, I assure you).

Also, side note:  I was screwing around in SM mode a while back and learned that the maximum possible missile speed, at max tech, is 300k km/s.  If Photonic Missile Drives make up 60% of a missile's MSP, it goes this speed.  Adding more thrust has no effect.

[Greenbane]

Yep, that's right.

300,000 km/s (or as it was precisely pointed out, 299,792 km/s) is the speed of light, so no FTL missiles allowed.

[Akhier the Dragon hearted]

I think that Steve actually say somewhere that he made sure there where no faster then light speeds.

[Metalax]

yeah. warhead strength is not incremental

Where the hell are people getting this?  Yes, it is incremental.  It's just sub-optimal if you want maximal armor penetration for your investment.  I don't know how high the damage goes in the template table, so it's possible that ultra-heavy warheads get clipped down.  If so, the maximum damage must be at least 168 since IIRC that's the maximum carronade damage.  Carronades use the missile damage templates IIRC.  Check Steve's recent post about damage templates.  He lists which weapons use which templates.  That post may also be confusing people, hence your "fine-tune your warhead strength because damage is not incremental" thing.

The high damage warheads was brought up over on the aurora forums relatively recently. I'll see if I can find the relevant post.

Ah here it is.
http://aurora.pentarch.org/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=2302&p=22176&hilit=warhead+template#p22176

And Steves post about the various weapon templates is here.
http://aurora.pentarch.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=2390&p=23138#p23138

Really?  Somewhere along the way I picked up the idea that the meter was redefined at some point.  IIRC it was originally relative to the Earth's circumference (one quarter of the circumference being X km, though I can't recall X) but is now defined relative to c, which is precisely 3x10⁸ m/s.  Either there are two standards floating around or I absorbed some misinformation (a common occurrence, I assure you).

Yep, c's never been precisely 3x10⁸ m/s (although at one point there was discussion about redefining the meter so that it was precisely that value). You're right though that the definition used to define a meter has changed while still giving the exact same length.

Also, side note:  I was screwing around in SM mode a while back and learned that the maximum possible missile speed, at max tech, is 300k km/s.  If Photonic Missile Drives make up 60% of a missile's MSP, it goes this speed.  Adding more thrust has no effect.

In a similar fashion Steve has deliberately had the beam fire control ranges max out at just under 1.5 million km's ie the distance light will travel in a 5 second increment.

[Tarran]

...

Also, side note:  I was screwing around in SM mode a while back and learned that the maximum possible missile speed, at max tech, is 300k km/s.  If Photonic Missile Drives make up 60% of a missile's MSP, it goes this speed.  Adding more thrust has no effect.

In a similar fashion Steve has deliberately had the beam fire control ranges max out at just under 1.5 million km's ie the distance light will travel in a 5 second increment.

Neat, he thinks of nearly everything doesn't he?

[Metalax]

I think that Steve actually say somewhere that he made sure there where no faster then light speeds.

Yep I recall seeing him say that was a design intention, but he seems to have missed out putting an actual hard cap on ship speed, at least in the design window.

Just loaded up an all tech game to check this out.

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This fighter engine is the highest power to mass ratio you can get with an unmodded game.

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FTR Photonic Drive E200
Power Output: 450     Explosion Chance: 175     Efficiency: 20    Thermal Signature: 450
Engine Size: 1 HS    Engine HTK: 0     Internal Armour: 0
Cost: 75    Crew: 5
Materials Required: 18.75x Duranium  0x Neutronium  56.25x Gallicite

Development Cost for Project: 750RP

Which with a command module and a small fuel gives this:

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Tribal class Fighter    65 tons     7 Crew     80.5 BP      TCS 1.3  TH 450  EM 0
346153 km/s     Armour 1-1     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 0     PPV 0
Annual Failure Rate: 13%    IFR: 0.2%    Maint Capacity 0 MSP    Max Repair 75 MSP    Est Time: 0 Years

FTR Photonic Drive E200 (1)    Power 450    Fuel Use 2000%    Signature 450    Armour 0    Exp 175%
Fuel Capacity 10,000 Litres    Range 13.8 billion km   (11 hours at full power)

This design is classed as a military vessel for maintenance purposes
This design is classed as a fighter for production and combat purposes
Just over 46,150 km/s faster than c.

Adding a 1/12 size gauss cannon and a 1/4 size firecontrol brings it back down under c.

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Tribal class Fighter    100 tons     10 Crew     254.5 BP      TCS 2  TH 450  EM 0
225000 km/s     Armour 1-1     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 0     PPV 0.5
Annual Failure Rate: 20%    IFR: 0.3%    Maint Capacity 0 MSP    Max Repair 164 MSP    Est Time: 0 Years

FTR Photonic Drive E200 (1)    Power 450    Fuel Use 2000%    Signature 450    Armour 0    Exp 175%
Fuel Capacity 10,000 Litres    Range 9.0 billion km   (11 hours at full power)

Gauss Cannon R6-8 (1x10)    Range 60,000km     TS: 225000 km/s     Accuracy Modifier 8%     RM 6    ROF 5        1 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0
Fire Control S00.2 43.75-25000 (FTR) (1)    Max Range: 87,500 km   TS: 100000 km/s     89 77 66 54 43 31 20 9 0 0

This design is classed as a military vessel for maintenance purposes
This design is classed as a fighter for production and combat purposes

Trying a size 1 box launcher and a 1/10 size missile fire contol give you:

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Victory class Fighter    77.5 tons     7 Crew     99.1 BP      TCS 1.55  TH 450  EM 0
290322 km/s     Armour 1-1     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 0     PPV 0.15
Annual Failure Rate: 15%    IFR: 0.2%    Maint Capacity 0 MSP    Max Repair 75 MSP    Est Time: 0 Years
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FTR Photonic Drive E200 (1)    Power 450    Fuel Use 2000%    Signature 450    Armour 0    Exp 175%
Fuel Capacity 10,000 Litres    Range 11.6 billion km   (11 hours at full power)

Size 1 Box Launcher (1)    Missile Size 1    Hangar Reload 7.5 minutes    MF Reload 1.2 hours
Missile Fire Control FC4-R1 (1)     Range 4.1m km    Resolution 1

This design is classed as a military vessel for maintenance purposes
This design is classed as a fighter for production and combat purposes
Which is still just under c.

Trying a pure scout variant with a 1/10 size sensor gives

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Agincourt class Fighter    70 tons     7 Crew     98.5 BP      TCS 1.4  TH 450  EM 0
321428 km/s     Armour 1-1     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 0     PPV 0
Annual Failure Rate: 14%    IFR: 0.2%    Maint Capacity 0 MSP    Max Repair 75 MSP    Est Time: 0 Years

FTR Photonic Drive E200 (1)    Power 450    Fuel Use 2000%    Signature 450    Armour 0    Exp 175%
Fuel Capacity 10,000 Litres    Range 12.9 billion km   (11 hours at full power)

Active Search Sensor MR1-R1 (1)     GPS 18     Range 1.4m km    Resolution 1

This design is classed as a military vessel for maintenance purposes
This design is classed as a fighter for production and combat purposesSuccess!

So the only actual fighter design that has a use that is faster than c is a pure scout with a tiny sensor.

[Tarran]

Whats your favorite colony everybody?

(mine was posted back here.)

mine is 'Eden' [yes I'm that uncreative in names], in the 'Athens' system [told you], it sits above a ruined city, so its already got some industry, and I'm thinking of shipping more. its gravity is earthlike. its diameter is very earthlike (12400). its filled 44% with water. its year is the same as its day, 37 days. its axial tilt is 86 degrees. it has no plate tectonics. it has no magnetic field. and has 198mil(251mil now, as-of this post about this quote) colonists.

and how far away from earth? mine is 3 jumps, and each gate is very close.

[Eduren]

I'm still starting out.

So Mars.

But I do have another in an adjacent system that I named Taco (I'm using the Spanish Race theme, thought it was fitting). For a while I had trouble getting infrastructure there so my massive civilian sector was shipping people over there faster than I could support them.

I love this game.

[Tarran]

Mars and Taco(es), this can only end badly.

[Eduren]

While I have your attention, I have a question. How long does it usually take to meet an NPC?

This is how much I've explored, but have only met Precursors(They start as Hostile, right?) in Kruger60 and Wolf358.

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If your curious, Taco is in FL Virginis.