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[Tilla]

Rodney class Planetary Defence Centre    39150 tons     837 Crew     2301 BP      TCS 783  TH 0  EM 0
Armour 10-102     Sensors 1/400     Damage Control Rating 0     PPV 40
Troop Capacity: 10 Battalions    Magazine 940   

PDC Size 1 Missile Launcher (40)    Missile Size 1    Rate of Fire 5
Missile Fire Control FC0-R1 (10)     Range 720k km    Resolution 1
Size 1 Anti-missile Missile (950)  Speed: 18,000 km/s   End: 0.7m    Range: 0.8m km   WH: 1    Size: 1    TH: 204 / 122 / 61

PDC Active Sensor-1 (1)     GPS 400     Range 2.0m km    Resolution 1

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s


This design is classed as a Planetary Defence Centre and can be pre-fabricated in 16 sections

 This should be better :3

[lolwut99]

Perhaps instead of a conventional succession game there might be more interest in a "Play by committee" game.
(space empires IV has had one running for a LOOOOONG time... http://www.spaceempires.net/forum-c13.html&sid=9e58839ed80c269ce6c2bccf3115507d ) With individual people running various parts of the same empire, that way learning the game would be easier since everyone would be focusing on one part at a time instead of trying to learn everything at once.

IE. One player playing as a fleet commander, while another plays a general, governor etc.

[Metalax]

Rodney class Planetary Defence Centre    39150 tons     837 Crew     2301 BP      TCS 783  TH 0  EM 0
Armour 10-102     Sensors 1/400     Damage Control Rating 0     PPV 40
Troop Capacity: 10 Battalions    Magazine 940   

PDC Size 1 Missile Launcher (40)    Missile Size 1    Rate of Fire 5
Missile Fire Control FC0-R1 (10)     Range 720k km    Resolution 1
Size 1 Anti-missile Missile (950)  Speed: 18,000 km/s   End: 0.7m    Range: 0.8m km   WH: 1    Size: 1    TH: 204 / 122 / 61

PDC Active Sensor-1 (1)     GPS 400     Range 2.0m km    Resolution 1

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a Planetary Defence Centre and can be pre-fabricated in 16 sections

 This should be better :3

If your going to have space for 10 battalions you might as well go the whole way and up it to 21, space for a full division, or indeed what I normally do for PDC's on populated worlds and make it 25 to allow for a few replacement battalions as well.

Paul did an open office/excel spread sheet that will automatically calculate the best values to use in missile design for given tech here.

Anti-missiles will generally want to be size 1 strength 1 warheads. For anti ship roles make warheads square values, ie 4, 9, 16, 25, etc. This is because the damage template of missiles will penetrate a number of armour layers equal to the square root of their strength. Generally I keep anti-ship missiles in the size 4-8 range. Larger missiles can be effective, but I generally find the slow reload along with much more space required per launcher to outweigh any benefits most of the time.

[umiman]

There's a very good benefit to having a huge missile.

If your opponent has created an exceptionally good missile defense system, the best way to defeat it would be to swarm it with missiles. Since missile launchers cannot be optimized for missiles with fraction sizes (size 0.3722 missile) whereas a multistage missile can, you can actually create a missile which seperates into a bloody huge number of micro missiles smaller than even your anti-missile missiles.

Unless that got fixed or something, then bugger that.

[Tilla]

There's a very good benefit to having a huge missile.

If your opponent has created an exceptionally good missile defense system, the best way to defeat it would be to swarm it with missiles. Since missile launchers cannot be optimized for missiles with fraction sizes (size 0.3722 missile) whereas a multistage missile can, you can actually create a missile which seperates into a bloody huge number of micro missiles smaller than even your anti-missile missiles.

Unless that got fixed or something, then bugger that.

I don't think it would get fixed, MIRVs should be intentional features - they exist in the real world, after all.

[umiman]

Awesome.

It's also fun to see your multistage missiles split up. Can you imagine the face of your opponent when first he sees one big missile fly at him, then he targets it and fires his anti-missile. Just as the missile hits and there's a huge explosion while he cackles at his victory, 50 other missiles fly out of the smoke. Panicking, the opponent readies all guns and fires blindly but unfortunately, each missile merely breaks up into 20 more missiles each which then break out into 20 missiles each. As the swarm of 20,000 missiles are about to impact, they split into 20 more missiles each and destroy his ship not through explosive force, but kinetic impact of 400,000 mini missiles.

That's... probably not possible in the game.

[head]

I wouldn't put my name down just yet because I'm still working out a few of the kinks but depending on how I go later on I might sign myself up. I'm interested to see how different people's strategies will be integrated into others. Just out of curiosity, what sort of house rules are there (e.g no SM mode, research directions)?

No SM mode, unless some horrible errors start occurring that requires it (happened in current Succession i have running once already)

I mean its Succession everyones gonna play their own way. Be the crazy dictator and build a giant expensive warfleet  that sucks all the money out or whatever, it adds to the fun

I hope we do a conventional start

and il join for shits and lulz

[Earthquake Damage]

Hey, guys!  I've been working on the wiki.

You are awesome and your work is very much appreciated.

Also, random tidbit that should probably go in the wiki:  Apparently any sensor larger than 1 HS is military-only.  I read that in the forum, not the wiki.  Might be useful to put it there, too.

[Another]

Hey, guys!  I've been working on the wiki.

You are awesome and your work is very much appreciated.

Also, random tidbit that should probably go in the wiki:  Apparently any sensor larger than 1 HS is military-only.  I read that in the forum, not the wiki.  Might be useful to put it there, too.

Just checked this in-game. It is true for both passive and active sensors. I had an erroneous impression before your post that thermal are civilian and EM are military as it turned out only because I had never bothered to create a small EM sensor.

[Akhier the Dragon hearted]

This is an Amazing thread! I have just read it in about 3 days and used it to learn the game. Would like to help with the wiki so I thought what could I provide and all I know is how I made the windows work on my vista laptop. I used the SDesk and ResizeEnable programs. By themselves they do not work but if you use the SDesk to view the window that has the buttons cut off and a good bit of space at the bottom you can then resize it with ResizeEnable by first dragging it up a little then pulling down to the bottom of the screen. It will then have the missing buttons though its hit and miss whether you can understand the scrounched words because sometimes it adds extra space. Will provide screenshots maybe.

Oh and also

Curse you 3rd dimension! You have foiled me again!

Sigged!

[Micro102]

Yes second stage swarm missiles have been deemed by Steve to be overpowered. He will removed them if he hasn't already.

[Akhier the Dragon hearted]

Ah no million stage rockets anymore? honestly with the really high missile tech you could fit way to many missiles in a size 1 missile. also here's some screen shots in a spoiler with the how to.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

To make the window show all of the buttons in a lower resolution screen I have found the combined use of SDesk and ResizeEnable to work. First have both of the programs open and using SDesk go to the bottom of the area by pressing Shift + ctrl + alt + the numpads 2, now open Aurora like you normally would and when you get to a window with cut off buttons such as shown in this picture where the bottom row of buttons in the Class Design window are cut:


Now press Shift + ctrl + alt + up arrow key to gradually move up in the SDesk's bigger area, depending some of the screens in the background may or may not follow this but as along as the screen with the cut off buttons is not maximized then it should stay still as shown Here:


Next just move the screen so that it is higher on the screen then before by just about how much it is show in this picture give or take some:


Now press Shift + ctrl + alt + numpad's 2 and the screen should look like this about:


The next step is to grab the bottom of the window and drag it up a fraction so that the window changes just a little but don't let go:


Now you can drag it down to about the bottom of the screen and let go. The window will resize itself some and appear like in this image with the missing buttons visible:


As a note this may re-size it weird and can be hit or miss so if it does not quite look right(the above is the average) close the window and open it again and retry. You only have one try at the resizing unless you do close it and any resizing after the first will only change the proportions not where stuff is if you don't

[Journier]

Ah no million stage rockets anymore? honestly with the really high missile tech you could fit way to many missiles in a size 1 missile. also here's some screen shots in a spoiler with the how to.

Niiiiceeee.

I updated the Aurora wiki, Roughed in all of the Player Designed Systems areas.

[Micro102]

 

I don't get it 

[Akhier the Dragon hearted]

If your talking about my thing I found it on the aurora forum some where, basicly it uses SDesk's fake bigger resolution to allow you to use resizeenable to properly resize the window. normaly you would not be able to pull the window down far enough to allow the autoresize with buttons but the SDesk provides a larger window like the xp option only instead of autoscrolling when the mouse is at the edge you need to hold shift, control, and alt keys at the same time and press either the direction keys or the numpad keys 4, 8, 6, and 2 to scroll around.