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[Micro102]

I plan on just leaving systems alone when i am done with them, then move on to the next system using the others through research and stuff. The only problem is the fuel production....is it possible to stop that for a certain colony? or do i have to get rid of the fuel processing plants? (can i destroy those plants or do i have to move them?)

[forsaken1111]

I plan on just leaving systems alone when i am done with them, then move on to the next system using the others through research and stuff. The only problem is the fuel production....is it possible to stop that for a certain colony? or do i have to get rid of the fuel processing plants? (can i destroy those plants or do i have to move them?)

On the civilian sector tab you can shut down fuel refineries and a bunch of other things. They take like 180 days to reactivate once shut down tho.

[ThtblovesDF]

In the Task group window... how can I move a ship (say from TG Shipyard) to a other task group? All I manage to do is detach it and have a single new group, which is getting spammy at this point.

TL:DR How to add ship to existing task group?

NVM FIGURED IT OUT RIGHT AFTER I POSTED THIS.

MAGIC

[Greiger]

The new system to speed up npr fights seems a bit screwy.  I had 1 day long intervals for some time now (better than 5 seconds heh) but out of dumb luck one of my chocobo (Fast lightly armed sensor ship not as stealthy as a Stirge) class scouts encountered the fight.

The odd thing was though that they didn't start fighting til I showed up.  Both are full fledged NPRs, one of which is the Tarka NPR I made a few pages ago that I made friendly to me.  Once my ship entered the system practically on top of the fight they started fleeing from eachother at top speed while firing missiles.  With no indication that they were doing so before I arrived.  I decide to help out my fellow reptilian friends, and my chocobo starts firing it's one 15cm laser at the enemy ships.  They are still fleeing as fast as they can, but their slow 850km/s missile boats don't have a prayer of outrunning my 6000km/s armed scout, and for some reason also don't have a prayer of hurting it.  They fired salvos (only 3 missiles at a time) of missiles that simply got annihilated by the scout's 2 CIWS systems.  While my Bird slowly pecked them to death.

I thought randomly generated NPRs are supposed to have comparable tech to you.  Either I somehow encountered the other starting NPR early, or they just start with random tech, because I seem to have these guys pretty severely outtecched.  I just have the same tech from my last game.

[muwahahaha]

Perhaps they were low-tech, outdated, small scouts? My initial scout ships consist of little more than a jump drive, a laser and some sensors.

[ThtblovesDF]

I can't figure out how to class a ship fighter...

I can build em under 500 tons (and yes, I changed it so it shows size in tons) and have all the small, tiny, fighter tech... but it just doesn't... "get it"

So where do I click after I design'd my fighter? Its in the same ship design area like everything else, right?

[Greiger]

Make sure your fighter doesn't have a bridge.  Also make sure it uses a fighter engine.

[Micro102]

I can't figure out how to class a ship fighter...

I can build em under 500 tons (and yes, I changed it so it shows size in tons) and have all the small, tiny, fighter tech... but it just doesn't... "get it"

So where do I click after I design'd my fighter? Its in the same ship design area like everything else, right?

Fighters are built in the fighter factories, check under the industry tab on the scroll down - fighters.

You need a single fight engine to make a fighter.

[forsaken1111]

Hell I don't even have 'scout' ships. I have jump cruisers with shit tons of fuel and engineering space and maint storage which totes along unarmed survey vessels and two fast attack ships. The FAC are armed but the jump cruiser just has some PD systems.

[Greiger]

Scouts are easy to make, and I find it better to use them then to sand in a few survey ships only to watch them get roasted by a precursor or something.  My scouts jump in, fly by all the system bodies in the system then leave.  Once they do that, I'm reasonably certain there's nothing out to get me. 

Spoiler: Here's my scout ships. (click to show/hide)

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Stirge class Scout    2000 tons     180 Crew     352.4 BP      TCS 40  TH 41.65  EM 0
2975 km/s    JR 3-50     Armour 1-14     Shields 0-0     Sensors 14/14/0/0     Damage Control Rating 2     PPV 0
Annual Failure Rate: 16%    IFR: 0.2%    Maint Capacity 1220 MSP    Max Repair 104 MSP    Est Time: 11.61 Years

J4000(3-50) Military Jump Drive     Max Ship Size 4000 tons    Distance 50k km     Squadron Size 3
MCF Drive Unarmored Stealth Long Range (1)    Power 118.75    Fuel Use 54%    Signature 41.5625    Armour 0    Exp 4%
Fuel Capacity 100,000 Litres    Range 166.7 billion km   (648 days at full power)

Size 1 Active Search Sensor R-8.8m X 1500 (1)     GPS 630     Range 8.8m km    Resolution 30
Thermal Sensor S-1 P-14 (1)     Sensitivity 14     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  14m km
EM Detection Sensor S-1 P-14 (1)     Sensitivity 14     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  14m km

This design is classed as a military vessel for maintenance purposes
This is my only ship class in  the fleet designated conscript only.  I made these things to be expendable while still performing their function.  I gave them stealth engines once I found out NPRs don't like seeing you in their populated systems.

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Chocobo class Scout    4700 tons     409 Crew     1187.9 BP      TCS 94  TH 166.25  EM 0
5053 km/s    JR 3-50     Armour 3-24     Shields 0-0     Sensors 56/56/0/0     Damage Control Rating 2     PPV 4
Annual Failure Rate: 88%    IFR: 1.2%    Maint Capacity 1316 MSP    Max Repair 168 MSP    Est Time: 3.72 Years

J5000(3-50) Military Jump Drive     Max Ship Size 5000 tons    Distance 50k km     Squadron Size 3
MCF Drive Unarmored Stealth Long Range (4)    Power 118.75    Fuel Use 54%    Signature 41.5625    Armour 0    Exp 4%
Fuel Capacity 200,000 Litres    Range 141.8 billion km   (324 days at full power)

15cm C6 F-Uv Laser (1)    Range 40,000km     TS: 5053 km/s     Power 6-6     RM 5    ROF 5        6 6 6 6 0 0 0 0 0 0
CIWS-200 (1x6)    Range 1000 km     TS: 20000 km/s     ROF 5       Base 50% To Hit
Small Fire Control R-20k S-10k (1)    Max Range: 40,000 km   TS: 10000 km/s     75 50 25 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Magnetic Confinement Fusion Reactor P2 (3)     Total Power Output 6    Armour 0    Exp 5%

Size 8 Active Search Sensor R-23m X 500 (1)     GPS 1680     Range 23.5m km    Resolution 10
Thermal Sensor S-4 P-56 (1)     Sensitivity 56     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  56m km
EM Detection Sensor S-4 P-56 (1)     Sensitivity 56     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  56m km

This design is classed as a military vessel for maintenance purposes
I thought this class didn't use stealth engines, looks like I was wrong.  Oh well.  This class I made after I had more experience with actual NPRs.  It has pretty much the same purpose as the Stirge, just if it found a hostile NPR survey ship it could paste it, and it is much more durable than the Stirge in case of dangerous hostiles since it isn't expendable anymore.  I originally intended for it to also be fast enough to outrun precursors, but after it's first encounter with them it turned out to still be 800km/s too slow.

[Areyar]

make sure the shipdesign overview states it is classeda fighter for maintenance.

I had a problem with hypercapable fighter engines actually being not allowed for fighters.

[Micro102]

What is everyone's thoughts on thermal reduction for engines? Is it worth the minerals to put on all your engines?

[forsaken1111]

What is everyone's thoughts on thermal reduction for engines? Is it worth the minerals to put on all your engines?

On EVERY vessel? I don't think it is.

It makes your ships much harder to spot when you're not using active sensors, but some ships and fleets you won't care if they're spotted either because they're never near a warzone or because they're a main battle fleet, not a stealthy taskforce. Putting camo paint on a rhino doesn't hide the rhino.

[Micro102]

But putting camo paint on the rhino puts him that much closer to him impaling you with his horn. 

[Greiger]

On my main fleets I use a little thermal reduction, but not alot.  I think my general military engine is 90% normal thermal.  Enough to have a slight benefit, but not use a whole lot of resources.

All my stealth engines use the best I got though, which is I believe is about 1/3rd normal emissions.  Really goes a long way towards making sure you spot them before they spot you.  It takes a really strong thermal sensor to see my scouts before they see you.  But they do use more resources, so I don't put them on every ship I can.  ...Besides, it's funny looking at another race's sensor data on one of your ships and seeing "Estimated speed: 1200km/s Observed speed: 5500km/s"

To continue with the analogies, putting camo on a herd of elephants is probably a waste of time, put it on a pride of lions and you might get somewhere, but put camo on a lone viper and you might do some damage before anybody knows what's happening.