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[Osmosis Jones]

Ahhhh, I stand corrected. EM sensors do help, but they are not necessary.

EM Sensors
Passive sensors that detect EM signatures. These can be used to detect ship shields, Active Sensors and the presence of colonies on a planet

[Micro102]

http://aurora.pentarch.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=2211&p=21125&hilit=EM+detect+active+sensors#p21125

He seems to be a long time player of aurora....I don't see how you can just see active sensors with other active sensors. Maybe it had to do with NPR's not realizing you were there, then keeping the transponders of their civs on (if NPR's even HAVE civs).

Ninja'ed .....i always wanted to say that :ninja: fail

[forsaken1111]

You need an EM sensor to detect active sensors.

No, you don't. I never use EM sensors, only thermal and active, and I have always been able to detect active sensor blips. EM is for detecting the shields of ships; e.g. it's only really useful for spotting military ships that are already gearing up for a fight. There are better things to waste your research points on IMO.

Yeah, every ship has a very very weak passive EM sensor regardless, but they don't have great range. Still they can pick up strong sources at a good distance.

[Sir Pseudonymous]

I recall reading someplace that Actives are detected by EMs. And my own experience backs it up.  But for the life of me I can't find a quote.

It's in one of the ship building tutorials, along with the relevant equation. Probably mentioned here, too. Can't remember precisely which one though.

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[Osmosis Jones]

Heh, I'm just happy I finally got to ninja someone. It's strangely satisfying.

[Greiger]

I think actives can detect other actives just by the way they apperantly work.  They send out some kind of gravity pulse to detect gravity wells.  I imagine an active sensor would be able to pick up on the pulse of another active sensor.

Besides Steve seems to go with a variation on what actually happens in real life from what I see.  I'm pretty sure active sonar can pick up other sonar pings, and radar can pick up other radar signals.  (no I'm not a U.S. Navy engineer or anything so I don't really know for sure.)

[Vanigo]

You need an EM sensor to detect active sensors.

No, you don't. I never use EM sensors, only thermal and active, and I have always been able to detect active sensor blips. EM is for detecting the shields of ships; e.g. it's only really useful for spotting military ships that are already gearing up for a fight. There are better things to waste your research points on IMO.

Yeah, every ship has a very very weak passive EM sensor regardless, but they don't have great range. Still they can pick up strong sources at a good distance.

Right. Every ship gets a strength 1 thermal and EM sensor if they don't have anything better.
The other thing EM sensors are good for is detecting alien populations. From what I've seen, they typically have an EM signature around 5 times stronger than their thermal signature, so an EM sensor will pick them up much sooner. That and figuring out which enemy ship has the sensors and needs to be blown up first.

Oh, and no, active sensors can't pick up active sensors. Maybe they should be able to, but they can't.

[Journier]

Oh, and no, active sensors can't pick up active sensors. Maybe they should be able to, but they can't.

ARGHHHHH, Stop blowing my mind with these new idea's!

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This whole time i thought actives picked up other actives.... damn

[AussieGuy]

Just wondering but  does anyone know when 5.0 is coming out?

[Journier]

Just wondering but  does anyone know when 5.0 is coming out?

steve just posted today in Mechanics forum saying he was gonna cut some features on the task group modifications he was doing and work on putting them in for the 5.1+ release.

I assume he is doing that since hes been saying 5.0 is coming out for nearly 2 weeks now. So maybe early next week?? or sunday??? he said on the 7th of february that week, and then he said in a couple days like on the 16th... so

http://aurora.pentarch.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2250&start=15#p21757

[Sir Pseudonymous]

The other thing EM sensors are good for is detecting alien populations. From what I've seen, they typically have an EM signature around 5 times stronger than their thermal signature, so an EM sensor will pick them up much sooner.

They pick up industry, from what I remember reading. Populations produce heavy thermal signatures and light EM signatures, and industry produces heavy EM and light thermal. For some reason. You'd think a large amount of heavy equipment/power generation/smelters/whatever would produce a hell of a lot more heat than populations, though perhaps it's thinking along the lines of hives/dense cities forming detectable blobs of heat (still wouldn't think that would be detectable out of orbit...).

[forsaken1111]

I think you have it backwards. Populations produce a lot of EM, industry a lot of thermal.

[Journier]

The other thing EM sensors are good for is detecting alien populations. From what I've seen, they typically have an EM signature around 5 times stronger than their thermal signature, so an EM sensor will pick them up much sooner.

They pick up industry, from what I remember reading. Populations produce heavy thermal signatures and light EM signatures, and industry produces heavy EM and light thermal. For some reason. You'd think a large amount of heavy equipment/power generation/smelters/whatever would produce a hell of a lot more heat than populations, though perhaps it's thinking along the lines of hives/dense cities forming detectable blobs of heat (still wouldn't think that would be detectable out of orbit...).

Yea im sorta right there with you man.

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except yea populations produce lots of EM and industry produces lots of heat.

[Micro102]

Anyone want to be my guinea pig for a bit of a RPing scenario?

Try to create a bunch of allied NPRs (preferably with different tolerances, so they can cover a wider amount of planets that the others can't) and ally them with each other, then let them grow extremely powerful in tech and branch out into other systems, then spawn your own civilization right in the middle of them and make them all hate you.

From there you have to attempt to escape the 3 of them, preferably by building a jump ship carrying the bare necessities for a colony, and build an empire far away, then come back and fight them.

Any suggestions or tweaks to make this more fun?

[Journier]

Anyone want to be my guinea pig for a bit of a RPing scenario?

Try to create a bunch of allied NPRs (preferably with different tolerances, so they can cover a wider amount of planets that the others can't) and ally them with each other, then let them grow extremely powerful in tech and branch out into other systems, then spawn your own civilization right in the middle of them and make them all hate you.

From there you have to attempt to escape the 3 of them, preferably by building a jump ship carrying the bare necessities for a colony, and build an empire far away, then come back and fight them.

Any suggestions or tweaks to make this more fun?

sounds pretty fun as is ^_^