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Re: Aurora - The Dwarf Fortress of 4X Games
« Reply #975 on: January 29, 2010, 11:25:58 pm »

A nomad empire could actually kinda work in this game.

Just give yourself some big commercial ships with lots of cargo space and engines, a tractor beam, and cryo things for your people. Tow your shipyards from world to world with these ships, holding the minerals you have stored up as well as the installations in your cargo bays. You could have mining and maintenance modules on ships too.

Then you could just travel from world to world, stripping them of resources and building up your fleet. You'd have to stop off every so often to gather more maintenance supplies and fix your ships, and any research done would have to be done while you were on a planet - but otherwise you could probably do OK. You would just have to guard your big ships carefully, since losing them would be a big setback unless you were towing around a monster shipyard with which to rebuild them. Getting good officers and enough crew for your ships might also be problematic, since you would have to stop and build training centers and wait for recruits. You could go with conscripts for the ships, but not having any good officers would kinda suck.

Oh, and Greiger - if you don't feel like messing much with missiles, you could always try out the spreadsheet I made back on page 64 of this thread. It pretty much does all the optimization for you, you just input your current technology and the stats you want on the missile and then pick the speed and accuracy rating you want - after that you just have to copy 4 values over real quick and it's done. I made it mostly for my own convenience, since I'm constantly designing missiles every time my tech increases. Way easier than sitting there adding and subtracting .001 at a time until your missile is "just right", haha.
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Re: Aurora - The Dwarf Fortress of 4X Games
« Reply #976 on: January 29, 2010, 11:41:41 pm »

Is there anything I can do with ships I won't need for years but don't want cluttering up system map space?

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« Reply #977 on: January 30, 2010, 12:05:22 am »

Is there anything I can do with ships I won't need for years but don't want cluttering up system map space?

Pluto, send them to hang around there.  Usually I'm zoomed in enough to rarely ever see Pluto...

Guess you also need to set-up maintenance ships if you send military ships and have overhaul on...
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Re: Aurora - The Dwarf Fortress of 4X Games
« Reply #978 on: January 30, 2010, 12:31:59 am »

How exactly do fuel harvesters work? I have 3 ships with fuel storage and sorium harvesters designated as tankers orbiting saturn, but there is no fuel added to them, even after I have waited a while.
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Re: Aurora - The Dwarf Fortress of 4X Games
« Reply #979 on: January 30, 2010, 12:37:03 am »

Have you surveyed the gas giant to make sure it contains sorium? Not all gas giant can be harvested, only those with sorium, ideally at 0.8 or higher availability.
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Re: Aurora - The Dwarf Fortress of 4X Games
« Reply #980 on: January 30, 2010, 12:43:54 am »

Did you designated it as a colony possibly?

Are the fuel tanks for the FH mostly empty?
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Re: Aurora - The Dwarf Fortress of 4X Games
« Reply #981 on: January 30, 2010, 12:44:47 am »

As an aside: dang this game is fun.

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Re: Aurora - The Dwarf Fortress of 4X Games
« Reply #982 on: January 30, 2010, 12:59:16 am »

It took me a long time to figure out how sorium harvesters work.  You just stick them in orbit around a gas giant with sorium and they will replenish their supply.

The problem comes up when the only sorium giants available have low availability. Then you can have them there for months and have no obvious increase. The harvesters are effected by mining availability just like everything else, and remember that per annum = per year so sorium harvesting is a slow process.  Especially if yer like me and your harvesters are also tankers and have massive fuel storage.  My tankers have a storage of 1 million liters.  With 2 harvesters each, orbiting a .1 availability jovian.  It took more than a year for them to gain 1%
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Re: Aurora - The Dwarf Fortress of 4X Games
« Reply #983 on: January 30, 2010, 01:02:21 am »

My fuel tanks at the moment are mostly full, but were near empty before and did not fill. I surveyed both Jupiter and Saturn and they don't contain Sorium. Thanks for the advice.
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Re: Aurora - The Dwarf Fortress of 4X Games
« Reply #984 on: January 30, 2010, 02:25:15 am »

Any chance of a mac port?
Sadly, no.

It would make things easier for me as well, but the resolution screw-up needs to be fixed first anyhow.

Steve lives in London, apparently, although he seems lacking in common sense for an Englishman.
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Re: Aurora - The Dwarf Fortress of 4X Games
« Reply #985 on: January 30, 2010, 02:33:18 am »

Any chance of a mac port?
Sadly, no.

It would make things easier for me as well, but the resolution screw-up needs to be fixed first anyhow.

Steve lives in London, apparently, although he seems lacking in common sense for an Englishman.
Has anything changed on this?
No.

After a few hours of down loading, and installation, I got virtual machine with xp working, and its playable.
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Re: Aurora - The Dwarf Fortress of 4X Games
« Reply #986 on: January 30, 2010, 06:25:18 am »

I'm having trouble getting infrastructure on a planet, as there seems to be no option for a freighter to load infrastructure.
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Re: Aurora - The Dwarf Fortress of 4X Games
« Reply #987 on: January 30, 2010, 06:33:42 am »

I'm having trouble getting infrastructure on a planet, as there seems to be no option for a freighter to load infrastructure.

Do you have the infrastructure built?

If yes, then in the order tab of the TG menu, you highlight the planet they were built, and scan the list of various good. Its generally next to installations. Then make sure you select an amount to carry, that does not exceed the cargo capability of the cargo TG.

Each 5k cargo hold can hold 2 infrastructure.

I've notice instatillations no matter the planet cost don't really have a sizable population limit until they are in the triple digits. Generally I try to get six thousand built and shipped to a planet to hold a pretty okay population.

Currently, I have a TG of ten 25k cargo ships transporting infrastructure to Titan. Its taking for fucking ever. Almost two years of constant trips they are almost done transporting the six thousand worth of infrastructure.

You can also have the infrastructure built then set up supply and demand order for the civvies to /eventually/ do it. The civvies will also eventually ship in more infrastructure as a trade good that will be added to the planets infrastructure.


I thought about leaving enough infrastructure on my home planet to act as  a global bomb shelter.

Then I'm looking at my overally large pop of 5 billion, and realize that I would probably need several million infrastructure to do so, if it got really bad, with the nuclear winter and some of it being destroyed in the bombardment.
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Re: Aurora - The Dwarf Fortress of 4X Games
« Reply #988 on: January 30, 2010, 06:57:12 am »

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Re: Aurora - The Dwarf Fortress of 4X Games
« Reply #989 on: January 30, 2010, 07:01:49 am »

Can someone help me figure out why my freighter refuses to move?

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Seychelles class Freighter    33400 tons     218 Crew     435 BP      TCS 668  TH 900  EM 0
1347 km/s     Armour 1-92     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 1     PPV 0
Maint Capacity 8 MSP    Max Repair 38 MSP
Cargo 25000    Cargo Handling Multiplier 10   

Ion Engine E0.8 (6)    Power 150    Fuel Use 8%    Signature 150    Armour 0    Exp 1%
Fuel Capacity 50,000 Litres    Range 33.7 billion km   (289 days at full power)

This design is classed as a commercial vessel for maintenance purposes

I can order it to move to someplace and it will have all the move coordinates and ETAs and everything but will not actually go anywhere nor will the ETAs change.

edit: It won't do anything, won't load automated mines, minerals, whatever. Fuel is full too.
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