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[Tarran]

I don't follow either. I think the ship design is a strong point in the game.

It is. It just has a lot of useless noise that really don't help.

Like what, exactly? EVERYTHING on that window helps at one time or another.

Ship type selection

Could be done much better with a lot less... bunching.

I don't follow. I find nothing wrong with the current way it works.

[Neonivek]

I'll take a screen shot next time I am there so you know what I mean.

I am not on the right computer for that though.

[forsaken1111]

I don't follow either. I think the ship design is a strong point in the game.

It is. It just has a lot of useless noise that really don't help.

Like what, exactly? EVERYTHING on that window helps at one time or another.

Ship type selection

Could be done much better with a lot less... bunching.

Also I looked for a World ship and I didn't find one -_-

Ship type is just there for you to categorize your ships, it has no rules effect. You can enter new ship types by clicking the "New Hull" button and typing in a type and designation. I do this to keep my military ships easily recognizable, rather than just doing 'cruiser' I do 'Beam Cruiser' BCC and 'Fast Attack Cruiser' FAC. Its just there for your organizational purposes.

[Osmosis Jones]

Doesn't it also let the civvies know that, for example, this is a cargo ship, and can be used for shipping?

[Greenbane]

No. They identify the ship type through its components. Class names are purely cosmetic.

[forsaken1111]

No. They identify the ship type through its components. Class names are purely cosmetic.

Much to my annoyance when they selected and built the little roleplay frigate I created simply to ferry my teams around. It has 1 luxury passenger accommodation and some fuel efficient engines. I'd much rather they use the 100k colonist capacity behemoth I use for establishing new colonies, they have the funds available.

I guess they just enjoy the luxuries and long journey.

[Greenbane]

Oh, they like building luxury liners every now and then. They provide as much profit as a colony ship of a comparable tonnage. I don't know the exact ratio, however.

[Micro102]

What is the point of having commercial things like ships and mining stations?

I have a civilian built mining complex with 4 mining sites yet it doesn't provide me with anything.

[forsaken1111]

What is the point of having commercial things like ships and mining stations?

I have a civilian built mining complex with 4 mining sites yet it doesn't provide me with anything.

Commercial ships make money for their company when they deliver things for you or deliver colonists to destinations, and you gain income from that via taxes.

For civilian mining complexes you can choose to purchase the output of the mines. If you don't (and you don't by default) you make income via tax as the minerals are sold to the civilian market.

[Tarran]

I have a civilian built mining complex with 4 mining sites yet it doesn't provide me with anything.

That's because you aren't buying the minerals.

Economics/Population and Production window>Select the colony>Civilians/Ind status>Bottom left, Civilian Mining Complexes Status.

Also, they have Mass Drivers too. Remember that.

[Neonivek]

How does civilian objects even work?

I thought you had to set them up for them and give them their own factories so they would build. They do it ALL on their own?

[forsaken1111]

How does civilian objects even work?

I thought you had to set them up for them and give them their own factories so they would build. They do it ALL on their own?

On the civilian tab in the economy window you can set supply/demand contracts for the civvies to drag stuff around. You don't need to give them factories or anything. I usually use the civilian sector for most of my shipping needs. Like I'll build 10k infrastructure in the beginning and use supply/demand contracts to set it all for distribution to the planets I plan to colonize and they get it done over time and make me money in taxes.

[Greenbane]

How does civilian objects even work?

I thought you had to set them up for them and give them their own factories so they would build. They do it ALL on their own?

You only have to design freighters and colony ships (optionally luxury liners as well) for them (and you) to use. Then they'll use their own wealth to buy the vessels out of thin air. They'll soon become self-sustaining, but you might want to subsidize them some in the beginning.

[Neonivek]

Can they mine your own planets dry?

[forsaken1111]

Can they mine your own planets dry?

The civilian mining colonies will eventually mine the planet/asteroid they're on out of all minerals yes. I don't know if they go away at that point or what.