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[Lord Shonus]

Now that most of the bugs are apparently squashed, he has time to work on the delayed features.

[EuchreJack]

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Mods are great.

Not gonna lie, that is beautiful.  It's not like I ever made bug reports anyways.

[Blue_Dwarf]

Yeah, the vanilla color scheme is hideous.

[da_nang]

So I decided to scrap the jump cruiser idea on the basis of cost. I do not feel my current mineral economy can support a single vessel costing 34k tons of minerals.

Instead I'm going with the good ol' military fleet with commercial tender fleet. Also reduced the max operational range to 120 bkm (or 60 bkm excluding return).

But I wanted to use more than just tankers. Future proofing, I suppose. So I got myself a recreational ship for future plans.

Spoiler: Recreational ship (click to show/hide)

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Love Boat class Recreational Ship (P)      150,000 tons       1,446 Crew       5,758.3 BP       TCS 3,000    TH 3,000    EM 0
2000 km/s      Armour 3-251       Shields 0-0       HTK 193      Sensors 11/0/0/0      DCR 11      PPV 0
MSP 4,023    Max Repair 2000 MSP
Lieutenant Commander    Control Rating 1   BRG   
Intended Deployment Time: 3 months   
Recreational Facilities

C-MPD 400x0.5/0.5 S2.5k/C40m/F15.81/TH50 (15)    Power 6000    Fuel Use 3.95%    Signature 200.0    Explosion 5%
Fuel Capacity 4,286,000 Litres    Range 130.1 billion km (752 days at full power)

CIWS-20k S407/ROF6 (5x6)    Range 1000 km     TS: 20,000 km/s     ROF 5       
TS50-11 EH50 (1)     Sensitivity 11     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  26.2m km

This design is classed as a Commercial Vessel for maintenance purposes

Debating on whether to scrap a few CIWS in exchange for some more armor. CIWS will age faster than armor will, after all. Then again, can always do some refitting. Right now, the design will probably sit on the drawing board until I need more operational range.

I also wanted to try a maintenance vessel. However, with an expected fleet tonnage capacity of more than 120k, that's going to be at least 480k tons of maintenance modules (19k tons of minerals). I would almost certainly have to split them up into smaller ships to avoid a massive jump drive. Which means more jump ships, and more minerals. Not sure if it's worth it at this stage. Will probably stick to supply ships instead.

Moving on, the tender fleet will need a jump ship. The design I came up with also makes the ship act as a backup sensor ship and hospital ship.

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Charon class Jump Ship (P)      40,000 tons       286 Crew       1,770.4 BP       TCS 800    TH 800    EM 0
2000 km/s    JR 5-25(C)      Armour 3-104       Shields 0-0       HTK 77      Sensors 11/0/0/0      DCR 11      PPV 0
MSP 1,227    Max Repair 223.4 MSP
Cryogenic Berths 8,200   
Commander    Control Rating 1   BRG   
Intended Deployment Time: 3 months   

CJD-151k/12 S21.8k/SQ5/JR25     Max Ship Size 151000 tons    Distance 25k km     Squadron Size 5

C-MPD 400x0.5/0.5 S2.5k/C40m/F15.81/TH50 (4)    Power 1600    Fuel Use 3.95%    Signature 200.0    Explosion 5%
Fuel Capacity 1,290,000 Litres    Range 146.9 billion km (849 days at full power)

CIWS-20k S407/ROF6 (6x6)    Range 1000 km     TS: 20,000 km/s     ROF 5       
C-ASSx21/11 S50/RSS5k/R39m/EH50 (1)     GPS 2100     Range 39.8m km    Resolution 100
C-AMSx21/11 S50/RS933k/EH50 (1)     GPS 21     Range 8.6m km    MCR 933.8k km    Resolution 1
TS50-11 EH50 (1)     Sensitivity 11     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  26.2m km

This design is classed as a Commercial Vessel for maintenance purposes


Again, will probably swap CIWS for some armor.

But then I got to thinking. With missile range reduced and the new sensor models, scouts are more important than ever. So why not go with a jump scout carrier?

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Pareto class Jump Scout Carrier (P)      60,000 tons       428 Crew       3,291 BP       TCS 1,200    TH 1,200    EM 0
2000 km/s    JR 5-25(C)      Armour 8-136       Shields 0-0       HTK 100      Sensors 11/0/0/0      DCR 11      PPV 0
MSP 6,054    Max Repair 223.4 MSP
Hangar Deck Capacity 2,000 tons     Cryogenic Berths 1,000   
Commander    Control Rating 1   BRG   
Intended Deployment Time: 3 months    Flight Crew Berths 40   
Maintenance Modules: 2 module(s) capable of supporting ships of 2,500 tons

CJD-151k/12 S21.8k/SQ5/JR25     Max Ship Size 151000 tons    Distance 25k km     Squadron Size 5

C-MPD 400x0.5/0.5 S2.5k/C40m/F15.81/TH50 (6)    Power 2400    Fuel Use 3.95%    Signature 200.0    Explosion 5%
Fuel Capacity 2,000,000 Litres    Range 151.8 billion km (878 days at full power)

CIWS-20k S407/ROF6 (3x6)    Range 1000 km     TS: 20,000 km/s     ROF 5       
C-ASSx21/11 S50/RSS5k/R39m/EH50 (1)     GPS 2100     Range 39.8m km    Resolution 100
C-AMSx21/11 S50/RS933k/EH50 (1)     GPS 21     Range 8.6m km    MCR 933.8k km    Resolution 1
TS50-11 EH50 (1)     Sensitivity 11     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  26.2m km

Strike Group
1x Seraph Fast Sc[spoiler]out Craft   Speed: 15108 km/s    Size: 19.99
1x Valkyrie Fast Scout Craft   Speed: 15108 km/s    Size: 19.99

This design is classed as a Commercial Vessel for maintenance purposes


I'm not sure how the maintenance will work here. According to the C# changelog, hangars don't offer maintenance (commercial ones at least). So will I need those maintenance modules to maintain the parasites? My main concern is stopping the maintenance clock from going up while the parasite is onboard. MSPs I can already handle easily.

As for the parasites themselves, I have a few variants. Obviously missiles are out due to commercial hangars not offering reloading. But I didn't want to leave them defenseless, either. So they will primarily scout for big ships and defend against fighters.

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Seraph class Fast Scout Craft (P)      1,000 tons       44 Crew       401.1 BP       TCS 20    TH 151    EM 0
15108 km/s      Armour 2-8       Shields 0-0       HTK 10      Sensors 11/0/0/0      DCR 0      PPV 4
Maint Life 3.03 Years     MSP 75    AFR 27%    IFR 0.4%    1YR 12    5YR 184    Max Repair 113.28 MSP
Lieutenant Commander    Control Rating 1   
Intended Deployment Time: 2.7 days    Morale Check Required   

FM-MPD 151.04x2.95/0.4 S160/C10.569/F1596.36/TH50 (2)    Power 302.1    Fuel Use 1056.91%    Signature 75.520    Explosion 29%
Fuel Capacity 179,000 Litres    Range 3 billion km (56 hours at full power)

UVL-4/12 S200/ROF5/P4/R160k (1)    Range 64,000km     TS: 15,108 km/s     Power 4-4     RM 40,000 km    ROF 5       
BFCx1/3 S75/R64k/TS15k/EH50 (1)     Max Range: 64,000 km   TS: 15,000 km/s     84 69 53 38 22 6 0 0 0 0
P4 Stellarator S33/PB20 (1)     Total Power Output 4    Exp 10%

C-ASSx21/11 S50/RSS5k/R39m/EH50 (1)     GPS 2100     Range 39.8m km    Resolution 100
TS50-11 EH50 (1)     Sensitivity 11     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  26.2m km

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes


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Valkyrie class Fast Scout Craft (P)      1,000 tons       40 Crew       373.4 BP       TCS 20    TH 151    EM 0
15108 km/s      Armour 2-8       Shields 0-0       HTK 10      Sensors 11/0/0/0      DCR 0      PPV 4
Maint Life 3.01 Years     MSP 70    AFR 27%    IFR 0.4%    1YR 12    5YR 174    Max Repair 113.28 MSP
Lieutenant Commander    Control Rating 1   
Intended Deployment Time: 2.7 days    Morale Check Required   

FM-MPD 151.04x2.95/0.4 S160/C10.569/F1596.36/TH50 (2)    Power 302.1    Fuel Use 1056.91%    Signature 75.520    Explosion 29%
Fuel Capacity 185,000 Litres    Range 3.2 billion km (57 hours at full power)

PC-6/15 S200/ROF10/P3/R60k (1)    Range 60,000km     TS: 15,108 km/s     Power 6-3     RM 10,000 km    ROF 10       
BFCx1/3 S75/R64k/TS15k/EH50 (1)     Max Range: 64,000 km   TS: 15,000 km/s     84 69 53 38 22 6 0 0 0 0
P3 Stellarator S27/PB20 (1)     Total Power Output 3    Exp 10%

C-ASSx21/11 S50/RSS5k/R39m/EH50 (1)     GPS 2100     Range 39.8m km    Resolution 100
TS50-11 EH50 (1)     Sensitivity 11     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  26.2m km

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes


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Wasp class Scout Fighter (P)      500 tons       27 Crew       235.5 BP       TCS 10    TH 76    EM 0
15107 km/s      Armour 1-5       Shields 0-0       HTK 4      Sensors 0/0/0/0      DCR 0      PPV 3
Maint Life 2.07 Years     MSP 29    AFR 20%    IFR 0.3%    1YR 9    5YR 135    Max Repair 113.28 MSP
Lieutenant Commander    Control Rating 1   
Intended Deployment Time: 3 days    Morale Check Required   

FM-MPD 151.04x2.95/0.4 S160/C10.569/F1596.36/TH50 (1)    Power 151.0    Fuel Use 1056.91%    Signature 75.520    Explosion 29%
Fuel Capacity 22,000 Litres    Range 0.7 billion km (13 hours at full power)

UVL-4/12x0.75 S150/ROF20/P1/R160k (1)    Range 64,000km     TS: 15,107 km/s     Power 4-1     RM 40,000 km    ROF 20       
BFCx1/3 S75/R64k/TS15k/EH50 (1)     Max Range: 64,000 km   TS: 15,000 km/s     84 69 53 38 22 6 0 0 0 0
P1 Stellarator S13/PB20 (1)     Total Power Output 1    Exp 10%

C-ASSx21/11 S50/RSS5k/R39m/EH50 (1)     GPS 2100     Range 39.8m km    Resolution 100

This design is classed as a Fighter for production, combat and planetary interaction


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Hornet class Scout Fighter (P)      500 tons       24 Crew       199.1 BP       TCS 10    TH 58    EM 0
11522 km/s      Armour 1-5       Shields 0-0       HTK 5      Sensors 0/0/0/0      DCR 0      PPV 3
Maint Life 2.39 Years     MSP 24    AFR 20%    IFR 0.3%    1YR 6    5YR 86    Max Repair 86.4 MSP
Lieutenant Commander    Control Rating 1   
Intended Deployment Time: 3 days    Morale Check Required   

FM-MPD 115.20x3/0.5 S120/C15.910/F1832.82/TH50 (1)    Power 115.2    Fuel Use 1590.99%    Signature 57.60    Explosion 30%
Fuel Capacity 77,000 Litres    Range 1.7 billion km (42 hours at full power)

UVL-4/12x0.75 S150/ROF20/P1/R160k (1)    Range 64,000km     TS: 11,522 km/s     Power 4-1     RM 40,000 km    ROF 20       
BFC1/2.4 S60/R64k/TS12k/EH50 (1)     Max Range: 64,000 km   TS: 12,000 km/s     84 69 53 38 22 6 0 0 0 0
P1 Stellarator S13/PB20 (1)     Total Power Output 1    Exp 10%

C-ASSx21/11 S50/RSS5k/R39m/EH50 (1)     GPS 2100     Range 39.8m km    Resolution 100

This design is classed as a Fighter for production, combat and planetary interaction


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Jacket class Scout Fighter (P)      500 tons       20 Crew       152.5 BP       TCS 10    TH 38    EM 0
7561 km/s      Armour 1-5       Shields 0-0       HTK 5      Sensors 0/0/0/0      DCR 0      PPV 3
Maint Life 2.91 Years     MSP 19    AFR 20%    IFR 0.3%    1YR 3    5YR 50    Max Repair 56.64 MSP
Lieutenant Commander    Control Rating 1   
Intended Deployment Time: 6.3 days    Morale Check Required   

FM-MPD 75.52x2.95/0.5 S80/C18.684/F1411.0 (1)    Power 75.5    Fuel Use 1868.38%    Signature 37.760    Explosion 29%
Fuel Capacity 136,000 Litres    Range 2.6 billion km (4 days at full power)

UVL-4/12x0.75 S150/ROF20/P1/R160k (1)    Range 64,000km     TS: 7,561 km/s     Power 4-1     RM 40,000 km    ROF 20       
BFC1/1.5 S38/R64k/TS7.5k/EH50 (1)     Max Range: 64,000 km   TS: 7,500 km/s     84 69 53 38 22 6 0 0 0 0
P1 Stellarator S13/PB20 (1)     Total Power Output 1    Exp 10%

C-ASSx21/11 S50/RSS5k/R39m/EH50 (1)     GPS 2100     Range 39.8m km    Resolution 100

This design is classed as a Fighter for production, combat and planetary interaction

Out of all these, I like the scout FACs and the Hornet. The Wasp lacks range and the Jacket is too slow. The only thing irking me is the lack of a thermal sensor on the Hornet, which is a shame since I'd be able to cover more ground with four Hornets compared to two scout FACs. The alternative is to use a smaller thermal sensor but I'm then concerned about sensor range.

Also wondering which one will get detected first, the Hornet or the target. My current "best" sensors indicate the Hornet would be detected at 3 mkm on search sensor, and 9 mkm on thermal sensor. The TS50-11 will detect a thermal signal of strength 118 at 9 mkm. That's about a 1.5k ton vessel traveling at 7500 km/s (my military fleet combat speed) with 50% thermal reduction. The search sensor would detect equivalent vessel at ~3.8 mkm. Of course the GPS will probably give the game away, but at least I get early warning if the ships are moving.

[Paul]

After watching the hilarity of the Bannerlord steam forums after the recent update, I can respect Steve's decision to not want mods in his game.

There are hundreds of posts and bug reports caused by outdated mods causing crashes on launch. And do people say "My game is crashing so I should turn off my mods and see which one is crashing it."? Nope! They just go to the forum and say "THE GAME IS BROKEN THIS PATCH SUCKS!" or "All my skills jumped to 1023!" or "My game crashes on launch! New patch should be rolled back!"

[Eschar]

Can the Bannerlord players not take the care we take with DF to mention whether we have any mods active? Is that too much for them?

[da_nang]

Scratch the jump scout carrier. Commercial hangars are bugged in 1.6.3. You can't select a mothership with commercial hangars to land on. 

Is it worth making the patch jump on a 50-years-in save?

[Mini]

There's probably going to be another patch within the next few days, if Steve's progress finishing off features is any indication. Personally, I'm waiting for that (and the inevitable bugfix patches that quickly follow it) before I start another game (in my current one I have explored ~40 systems without even finding any precursors, and I want to try a different industrial doctrine).

[Ametsala]

1.9 should come out "during the weekend". It'll probably come out tomorrow evening, so I won't have time to play until next weekend

[LoSboccacc]

Scratch the jump scout carrier. Commercial hangars are bugged in 1.6.3. You can't select a mothership with commercial hangars to land on. 

Is it worth making the patch jump on a 50-years-in save?

there's still an ungodly amount of fixes coming in, and with fixes new bugs. noone can't predict how long is gonna be unstable with save breaking bugs of course, but watching the bug thread is a good indicator.

[Salmeuk]

Can the Bannerlord players not take the care we take with DF to mention whether we have any mods active? Is that too much for them?

I mean, both DF and Aurora have one thing going for them, they are obscure. DF is well known these days, but I bet the playerbase has remained fairly small due to the learning curve.

Bannerlord is meme-tier popularity, and the gameplay lends itself to streamers and gameplay clips. So I'm hardly surprised that the kind of Bannerlord player who would hee and haw about bugs on the steam forums (the youtube comment section of the gaming world) would also fail to make the logical jump to 'mods might cause issues with the game.'

I think Steve is worried that kind of thing might happen, which it certainly won't since Aurora is niche as hell.

Also, I take back my earlier words, it seems Steve most recently added single-window instances to the base game:

Multiple Window Option

Currently, a new window will open every time you click the appropriate button.

For v1.9, clicking the button will only open a window if none exist. Otherwise, it will bring the current window to the front.

If you shift-click the button, it will open a new window regardless of how many are currently open.

The following windows may only have ever have one instance open:
Create Project
Missile Design
Turret Design

The Medals Window is a dialog window so retains focus while it is open.

[da_nang]

I think I've finalized on a magneto-plasma era fleet design, 56 years in.

Spoiler: Battleships (click to show/hide)

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Overlord class Jump Battleship (P)      30,000 tons       941 Crew       6,790.2 BP       TCS 600    TH 2,320    EM 0
7733 km/s    JR 6-50      Armour 6-86       Shields 0-0       HTK 213      Sensors 22/0/0/0      DCR 40      PPV 72
Maint Life 2.71 Years     MSP 8,463    AFR 240%    IFR 3.3%    1YR 1,648    5YR 24,719    Max Repair 1740 MSP
Magazine 1,272   
Captain    Control Rating 5   BRG   AUX   ENG   CIC   FLG   
Intended Deployment Time: 24 months    Morale Check Required   

MJD-30k/12 S3.25k/SQ6/JR50     Max Ship Size 30000 tons    Distance 50k km     Squadron Size 6

M-MPD 2320x1.45/0.4 S5k/C320m/F742.96/TH50 (2)    Power 4640    Fuel Use 32.02%    Signature 1160.0    Explosion 14%
Fuel Capacity 1,252,000 Litres    Range 23.5 billion km (35 days at full power)

S6x5/1 Launcher S300/ROF15 (12)     Missile Size: 6    Rate of Fire 15
ASM MFCx21/11 S15/RS2k/R32m/EH50 (2)     Range 32.1m km    Resolution 40
ASM-6/1 W16/S20k/R17m/H26@10k (212)    Speed: 20,000 km/s    End: 14.4m     Range: 17.3m km    WH: 16    Size: 6    TH: 86/52/26

ASSx21/11 S125/RS2k/R46m/EH50 (1)     GPS 2100     Range 46.4m km    Resolution 40
TS100-22 EH50 (1)     Sensitivity 22     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  37.1m km

ECCM-1 (2)         ECM 10

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes


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Exterminatus class Battleship (P)      30,000 tons       876 Crew       6,616.3 BP       TCS 600    TH 2,320    EM 0
7733 km/s      Armour 5-86       Shields 0-0       HTK 242      Sensors 22/0/0/0      DCR 45      PPV 76
Maint Life 3.30 Years     MSP 9,140    AFR 202%    IFR 2.8%    1YR 1,269    5YR 19,029    Max Repair 1740 MSP
Magazine 2,472   
Captain    Control Rating 4   BRG   AUX   ENG   CIC   
Intended Deployment Time: 24 months    Morale Check Required   

M-MPD 2320x1.45/0.4 S5k/C320m/F742.96/TH50 (2)    Power 4640    Fuel Use 32.02%    Signature 1160.0    Explosion 14%
Fuel Capacity 1,253,000 Litres    Range 23.5 billion km (35 days at full power)

UVL-4/12 S200/ROF5/P4/R160k (1)    Range 160,000km     TS: 7,733 km/s     Power 4-4     RM 40,000 km    ROF 5        4 4 4 4 3 2 2 2 1 1
BFCx4/1.5 S150/R256k/TS7.5k/EH50 (1)     Max Range: 256,000 km   TS: 7,500 km/s     96 92 88 84 80 77 73 69 65 61
P4 Stellarator S33/PB20 (1)     Total Power Output 4    Exp 10%

S6x5/1 Launcher S300/ROF15 (12)     Missile Size: 6    Rate of Fire 15
ASM MFCx21/11 S15/RS2k/R32m/EH50 (2)     Range 32.1m km    Resolution 40
ASM-6/1 W16/S20k/R17m/H26@10k (412)    Speed: 20,000 km/s    End: 14.4m     Range: 17.3m km    WH: 16    Size: 6    TH: 86/52/26

TS100-22 EH50 (1)     Sensitivity 22     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  37.1m km

ECCM-1 (2)         ECM 10

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes


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Cerberus class Jump Lead Destroyer (P)      20,000 tons       645 Crew       4,813 BP       TCS 400    TH 1,520    EM 0
7600 km/s    JR 6-50      Armour 4-65       Shields 0-0       HTK 154      Sensors 22/0/0/0      DCR 35      PPV 45.30
Maint Life 3.68 Years     MSP 3,850    AFR 125%    IFR 1.7%    1YR 442    5YR 6,635    Max Repair 1140.000 MSP
Magazine 488   
Captain    Control Rating 4   BRG   AUX   ENG   CIC   
Intended Deployment Time: 24 months    Morale Check Required   

MJD-20k/12 S2180/SQ6/JR50     Max Ship Size 20100 tons    Distance 50k km     Squadron Size 6

M-MPD 1520x1.9/0.4 S2.5k/C890m/F1353.01/TH50 (2)    Power 3040.0    Fuel Use 89.01%    Signature 760.000    Explosion 19%
Fuel Capacity 2,501,000 Litres    Range 25.3 billion km (38 days at full power)

GC3/6/10k X2/S933/TS20k/A3 (2x6)    Range 10,000km     TS: 20000 km/s     Power 0-0     RM 10,000 km    ROF 5       
BFCx2/4 S200/R128k/TS20k/EH50 (2)     Max Range: 128,000 km   TS: 20,000 km/s     92 84 77 69 61 53 45 38 30 22

S1x3/1 Launcher S50/ROF10 (8)     Missile Size: 1    Rate of Fire 10
AMM MFCx21/11 S35/R1.5m/EH50 (2)     Range 14.3m km    Resolution 1
AMM-1/1 S40k/R1.1m/H100@10k (488)    Speed: 40,200 km/s    End: 0.5m     Range: 1.1m km    WH: 1    Size: 1    TH: 335/201/100

AMSx21/11 S550/R3m/EH50 (1)     GPS 231     Range 28.4m km    MCR 3.1m km    Resolution 1
TS100-22 EH50 (1)     Sensitivity 22     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  37.1m km

ECCM-1 (4)         ECM 10

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes


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Styx class Destroyer (P)      20,000 tons       575 Crew       4,540.5 BP       TCS 400    TH 1,520    EM 0
7600 km/s      Armour 4-65       Shields 0-0       HTK 176      Sensors 22/0/0/0      DCR 36      PPV 78.62
Maint Life 3.76 Years     MSP 3,795    AFR 120%    IFR 1.7%    1YR 420    5YR 6,297    Max Repair 1140.000 MSP
Magazine 968   
Captain    Control Rating 2   BRG   CIC   
Intended Deployment Time: 24 months    Morale Check Required   

M-MPD 1520x1.9/0.4 S2.5k/C890m/F1353.01/TH50 (2)    Power 3040.0    Fuel Use 89.01%    Signature 760.000    Explosion 19%
Fuel Capacity 2,507,000 Litres    Range 25.3 billion km (38 days at full power)

GC3/6/10k X4/S1766/TS20k/A3 (2x12)    Range 10,000km     TS: 20000 km/s     Power 0-0     RM 10,000 km    ROF 5       
BFCx2/4 S200/R128k/TS20k/EH50 (2)     Max Range: 128,000 km   TS: 20,000 km/s     92 84 77 69 61 53 45 38 30 22

S1x3/1 Launcher S50/ROF10 (8)     Missile Size: 1    Rate of Fire 10
AMM MFCx21/11 S35/R1.5m/EH50 (2)     Range 14.3m km    Resolution 1

TS100-22 EH50 (1)     Sensitivity 22     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  37.1m km

ECCM-1 (4)         ECM 10

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes


Spoiler: Frigates (click to show/hide)

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Auriel class Jump Lead Frigate (P)      20,000 tons       673 Crew       4,943.2 BP       TCS 400    TH 1,520    EM 0
7600 km/s    JR 6-50      Armour 4-65       Shields 0-0       HTK 163      Sensors 22/0/0/0      DCR 33      PPV 49.80
Maint Life 3.35 Years     MSP 3,591    AFR 138%    IFR 1.9%    1YR 485    5YR 7,269    Max Repair 1140.000 MSP
Magazine 496   
Captain    Control Rating 4   BRG   AUX   ENG   CIC   
Intended Deployment Time: 24 months    Morale Check Required   

MJD-20k/12 S2180/SQ6/JR50     Max Ship Size 20100 tons    Distance 50k km     Squadron Size 6

M-MPD 1520x1.9/0.4 S2.5k/C890m/F1353.01/TH50 (2)    Power 3040.0    Fuel Use 89.01%    Signature 760.000    Explosion 19%
Fuel Capacity 2,501,000 Litres    Range 25.3 billion km (38 days at full power)

UVL-4/12 X3/S845/ROF5/P12/R160k/TS15k/A3 (2x3)    Range 160,000km     TS: 15000 km/s     Power 12-12     RM 40,000 km    ROF 5       
BFCx4/3 S300/R256k/TS15k/EH50 (2)     Max Range: 256,000 km   TS: 15,000 km/s     96 92 88 84 80 77 73 69 65 61
P12 Stellarator S68/PB20 (2)     Total Power Output 24    Exp 10%

S2x5/1 Launcher S100/ROF10 (8)     Missile Size: 2    Rate of Fire 10
AFM MFCx21/11 S15/RS250/R16m/EH50 (2)     Range 16.1m km    Resolution 5
AFM-2/1 W4/S35k/R1.2m/H59@10k (248)    Speed: 35,200 km/s    End: 0.6m     Range: 1.3m km    WH: 4    Size: 2    TH: 199/119/59

AFSx21/11 S213/RS250/R30m/EH50 (1)     GPS 447     Range 30.2m km    Resolution 5
TS100-22 EH50 (1)     Sensitivity 22     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  37.1m km

ECCM-1 (3)         ECM 10

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

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Akatosh class Frigate (P)      20,000 tons       650 Crew       4,861 BP       TCS 400    TH 1,520    EM 0
7600 km/s      Armour 4-65       Shields 0-0       HTK 187      Sensors 22/0/0/0      DCR 39      PPV 64.12
Maint Life 4.49 Years     MSP 4,511    AFR 108%    IFR 1.5%    1YR 362    5YR 5,436    Max Repair 1140.000 MSP
Magazine 980   
Captain    Control Rating 2   BRG   CIC   
Intended Deployment Time: 24 months    Morale Check Required   

M-MPD 1520x1.9/0.4 S2.5k/C890m/F1353.01/TH50 (2)    Power 3040.0    Fuel Use 89.01%    Signature 760.000    Explosion 19%
Fuel Capacity 2,500,000 Litres    Range 25.3 billion km (38 days at full power)

UVL-4/12 X4/S1103/ROF5/P16/R160k/TS15k/A3 (2x4)    Range 160,000km     TS: 15000 km/s     Power 16-16     RM 40,000 km    ROF 5       
BFCx4/3 S300/R256k/TS15k/EH50 (2)     Max Range: 256,000 km   TS: 15,000 km/s     96 92 88 84 80 77 73 69 65 61
P8 Stellarator S53/PB20 (4)     Total Power Output 33.2    Exp 10%

S3x4/1 Launcher S150/ROF15 (4)     Missile Size: 3    Rate of Fire 15
S2x5/1 Launcher S100/ROF10 (4)     Missile Size: 2    Rate of Fire 10
AFM MFCx21/11 S15/RS250/R16m/EH50 (2)     Range 16.1m km    Resolution 5
AFM-3/1 W9/S22.5k/R1.3m/H33@10k (164)    Speed: 22,533 km/s    End: 1m     Range: 1.4m km    WH: 9    Size: 3    TH: 112/67/33
AFM-2/1 W4/S35k/R1.2m/H59@10k (244)    Speed: 35,200 km/s    End: 0.6m     Range: 1.3m km    WH: 4    Size: 2    TH: 199/119/59

TS100-22 EH50 (1)     Sensitivity 22     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  37.1m km

ECCM-1 (4)         ECM 10

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes


Spoiler: Carrier (click to show/hide)

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Pareto class Jump Scout Carrier (P)      60,000 tons       1,737 Crew       13,463.7 BP       TCS 1,200    TH 4,560    EM 0
7600 km/s    JR 6-50      Armour 5-136       Shields 0-0       HTK 354      Sensors 22/0/0/0      DCR 134      PPV 35.31
Maint Life 4.27 Years     MSP 21,390    AFR 232%    IFR 3.2%    1YR 1,882    5YR 28,230    Max Repair 3420.000 MSP
Hangar Deck Capacity 6,000 tons     Magazine 240    Cryogenic Berths 200   
Captain    Control Rating 6   BRG   AUX   ENG   CIC   FLG   PFC   
Intended Deployment Time: 24 months    Flight Crew Berths 120    Morale Check Required   

MJD-60k/12 S6.5k/SQ6/JR50     Max Ship Size 60000 tons    Distance 50k km     Squadron Size 6

M-MPD 4560x2.85/0.4 S5k/C1.735/F7909.28/TH50 (2)    Power 9120.0    Fuel Use 173.45%    Signature 2280.000    Explosion 28%
Fuel Capacity 17,505,000 Litres    Range 30.3 billion km (46 days at full power)

GC3/6/10k X4/S1766/TS20k/A3 (1x12)    Range 10,000km     TS: 20000 km/s     Power 0-0     RM 10,000 km    ROF 5       
BFCx2/4 S200/R128k/TS20k/EH50 (1)     Max Range: 128,000 km   TS: 20,000 km/s     92 84 77 69 61 53 45 38 30 22

ASM-6/1 W16/S20k/R17m/H26@10k (40)    Speed: 20,000 km/s    End: 14.4m     Range: 17.3m km    WH: 16    Size: 6    TH: 86/52/26

AMSx21/11 S550/R3m/EH50 (1)     GPS 231     Range 28.4m km    MCR 3.1m km    Resolution 1
ASSx21/11 S125/RS2k/R46m/EH50 (1)     GPS 2100     Range 46.4m km    Resolution 40
TS100-22 EH50 (1)     Sensitivity 22     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  37.1m km

ECCM-1 (1)         ECM 10

Strike Group
4x Wasp Bomber   Speed: 15123 km/s    Size: 9.99
4x Hornet Scout Fighter   Speed: 11522 km/s    Size: 10
2x Seraph Fast Scout Craft   Speed: 15108 km/s    Size: 19.99

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

Spoiler: Parasites (click to show/hide)

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Wasp class Bomber (P)      500 tons       11 Crew       152.2 BP       TCS 10    TH 76    EM 0
15123 km/s      Armour 1-5       Shields 0-0       HTK 1      Sensors 0/0/0/0      DCR 0      PPV 36
Maint Life 1.97 Years     MSP 19    AFR 20%    IFR 0.3%    1YR 6    5YR 97    Max Repair 113.28 MSP
Magazine 36   
Lieutenant Commander    Control Rating 1   
Intended Deployment Time: 3 days    Morale Check Required   

FM-MPD 151.04x2.95/0.4 S160/C10.569/F1596.36/TH50 (1)    Power 151.0    Fuel Use 1056.91%    Signature 75.520    Explosion 29%
Fuel Capacity 24,000 Litres    Range 0.8 billion km (15 hours at full power)

S6x1/0.15 Box Launcher S45/HR122.5m/MF20.4h (6)     Missile Size: 6    Hangar Reload 122 minutes    MF Reload 20 hours
ASM MFCx21/11 S15/RS2k/R32m/EH50 (1)     Range 32.1m km    Resolution 40
ASM-6/1 W16/S20k/R17m/H26@10k (6)    Speed: 20,000 km/s    End: 14.4m     Range: 17.3m km    WH: 16    Size: 6    TH: 86/52/26

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a Fighter for production, combat and planetary interaction


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Hornet class Scout Fighter (P)      500 tons       24 Crew       199.1 BP       TCS 10    TH 58    EM 0
11522 km/s      Armour 1-5       Shields 0-0       HTK 5      Sensors 0/0/0/0      DCR 0      PPV 3
Maint Life 2.39 Years     MSP 24    AFR 20%    IFR 0.3%    1YR 6    5YR 86    Max Repair 86.4 MSP
Lieutenant Commander    Control Rating 1   
Intended Deployment Time: 3 days    Morale Check Required   

FM-MPD 115.20x3/0.5 S120/C15.910/F1832.82/TH50 (1)    Power 115.2    Fuel Use 1590.99%    Signature 57.60    Explosion 30%
Fuel Capacity 77,000 Litres    Range 1.7 billion km (42 hours at full power)

UVL-4/12x0.75 S150/ROF20/P1/R160k (1)    Range 64,000km     TS: 11,522 km/s     Power 4-1     RM 40,000 km    ROF 20       
BFC1/2.4 S60/R64k/TS12k/EH50 (1)     Max Range: 64,000 km   TS: 12,000 km/s     84 69 53 38 22 6 0 0 0 0
P1 Stellarator S13/PB20 (1)     Total Power Output 1    Exp 10%

C-ASSx21/11 S50/RS5k/R39m/EH50 (1)     GPS 2100     Range 39.8m km    Resolution 100

This design is classed as a Fighter for production, combat and planetary interaction


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Seraph class Fast Scout Craft (P)      1,000 tons       44 Crew       401.1 BP       TCS 20    TH 151    EM 0
15108 km/s      Armour 2-8       Shields 0-0       HTK 10      Sensors 11/0/0/0      DCR 0      PPV 4
Maint Life 3.03 Years     MSP 75    AFR 27%    IFR 0.4%    1YR 12    5YR 184    Max Repair 113.28 MSP
Lieutenant Commander    Control Rating 1   
Intended Deployment Time: 2.7 days    Morale Check Required   

FM-MPD 151.04x2.95/0.4 S160/C10.569/F1596.36/TH50 (2)    Power 302.1    Fuel Use 1056.91%    Signature 75.520    Explosion 29%
Fuel Capacity 179,000 Litres    Range 3 billion km (56 hours at full power)

UVL-4/12 S200/ROF5/P4/R160k (1)    Range 64,000km     TS: 15,108 km/s     Power 4-4     RM 40,000 km    ROF 5        4 4 4 4 3 2 0 0 0 0
BFCx1/3 S75/R64k/TS15k/EH50 (1)     Max Range: 64,000 km   TS: 15,000 km/s     84 69 53 38 22 6 0 0 0 0
P4 Stellarator S33/PB20 (1)     Total Power Output 4    Exp 10%

C-ASSx21/11 S50/RS5k/R39m/EH50 (1)     GPS 2100     Range 39.8m km    Resolution 100
TS50-11 EH50 (1)     Sensitivity 11     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  26.2m km

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes


Spoiler: Tankers (click to show/hide)

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Servitor class Jump Military Tanker (P)      40,000 tons       223 Crew       1,871.3 BP       TCS 800    TH 800    EM 0
2000 km/s    JR 5-25(C)      Armour 6-104       Shields 0-0       HTK 79      Sensors 11/0/0/0      DCR 11      PPV 0
MSP 229    Max Repair 150 MSP
Commander    Control Rating 1   BRG   
Intended Deployment Time: 3 months   

CJD-40k/12 S5850/SQ5/JR25     Max Ship Size 40500 tons    Distance 25k km     Squadron Size 5

C-MPD 400x0.5/0.5 S2.5k/C40m/F15.81/TH50 (4)    Power 1600    Fuel Use 3.95%    Signature 200.0    Explosion 5%
Fuel Capacity 17,703,000 Litres    Range 2,015.3 billion km (11662 days at full power)
Refuelling Capability: 100,000 litres per hour     Complete Refuel 177 hours

CIWS-20k S407/ROF6 (6x6)    Range 1000 km     TS: 20,000 km/s     ROF 5       
C-ASSx21/11 S50/RS5k/R39m/EH50 (1)     GPS 2100     Range 39.8m km    Resolution 100
C-AMSx21/11 S50/RS933k/EH50 (1)     GPS 21     Range 8.6m km    MCR 933.8k km    Resolution 1
TS50-11 EH50 (1)     Sensitivity 11     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  26.2m km

This design is classed as a Commercial Vessel for maintenance purposes


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Ancilla class Military Tanker (P)      20,000 tons       101 Crew       791.6 BP       TCS 400    TH 400    EM 0
2000 km/s      Armour 3-65       Shields 0-0       HTK 41      Sensors 11/0/0/0      DCR 11      PPV 0
MSP 224    Max Repair 150 MSP
Lieutenant Commander    Control Rating 1   BRG   
Intended Deployment Time: 3 months   

C-MPD 400x0.5/0.5 S2.5k/C40m/F15.81/TH50 (2)    Power 800    Fuel Use 3.95%    Signature 200.0    Explosion 5%
Fuel Capacity 12,652,000 Litres    Range 2,880.7 billion km (16670 days at full power)
Refuelling Capability: 100,000 litres per hour     Complete Refuel 126 hours

CIWS-20k S407/ROF6 (1x6)    Range 1000 km     TS: 20,000 km/s     ROF 5       
TS50-11 EH50 (1)     Sensitivity 11     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  26.2m km

This design is classed as a Commercial Vessel for maintenance purposes


I've got better missiles in the pipeline.

Playing around I get a few possible fleet compositions. Ranges include return trip (except for strike range).

Spoiler: Minimum viable fleet (100k ton minerals) (click to show/hide)

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Deployment Time: 24 months
Operational range: 60 bkm
Combat range: 12 bkm
Strike range: 17 mkm

Combat Fleet
    1x Overlord
    1x Exterminatus
    2x Styx
    2x Akatosh

Tender Fleet
    1x Servitor
    4x Ancilla

Total Fuel Requirements: 80,830,000 L


Spoiler: Carrier fleet (263k ton minerals) (click to show/hide)

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Deployment Time: 24 months
Operational range: 60 bkm
Combat range: 12 bkm
Fighter Range: 1.5 bkm
Strike range: 17 mkm

Combat Fleet
    1x Overlord
    4x Exterminatus
    4x Styx
    2x Akatosh
    1x Pareto

Tender Fleet
    3x Servitor
    11x Ancilla

Total Fuel Requirements: 228,073,000 L


Spoiler: Total war fleet (457k ton minerals) (click to show/hide)

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Deployment Time: 24 months
Operational range: 60 bkm
Combat range: 12 bkm
Fighter Range: 1.5 bkm
Strike range: 17 mkm

Combat Fleet
    1x Overlord
    6x Exterminatus
    1x Cerberus
    8x Styx
    1x Auriel
    6x Akatosh
    1x Pareto

Tender Fleet
    5x Servitor
    19x Ancilla

Total Fuel Requirements: 392,231,000 L


The ships are big. They chug oceans of fuel. They're hewn straight out of entire moons. But most importantly, they're armed and dangerous.

I hope to god I won't need more than 3-4 naval shipyard complexes.

Thoughts?

[Paul]

Actually, your ships aren't that big. Modern naval super carriers are bigger than your carrier, and before they were retired many battleships were bigger than those battleships.

That's one thing I like about Aurora. Ship designs actually don't get ridiculously big like in some other scifi where things are just ridiculous in size.

[da_nang]

Actually, your ships aren't that big. Modern naval super carriers are bigger than your carrier, and before they were retired many battleships were bigger than those battleships.

That's one thing I like about Aurora. Ship designs actually don't get ridiculously big like in some other scifi where things are just ridiculous in size.

Huh. I guess my standards are set rather low. 

Dat mineral cost and fuel consumption, though.

[Lord Shonus]

To illustrate the comparison, the last of the superdreadnoughts were HMS Vanguard and the (designed but never built) Montana-class. Vanguard clocked in at 45,000 tons, and Montana would have topped the scales at 63,000. Your 30 kiloton ships are positively svelte in comparison.