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[MarcAFK]

You're ready for the swarm once you have beam ships that are faster, and longer ranged.  Good luck micro managing the battle. I always prefer to use missiles just to avoid the hassle of retargeting my beam fire controls. :p

[Rinnix]

So, having some shoddy luck figuring out how naval combat operates in this game.

1. Do you have to assign fire controls to every individual ship in a fleet? I would've figured it would make a lot more sense to be able to give mass orders, in case I wanted to, you know, set up identical point defense for each one.

2. Is there something to point defense systems I'm missing? I've tried to use the Combat Overview screen to set my ...

god damnit I just realized you have to set weapons to the fire controls for the fire controls to do anything with them
and oh, there's copy assigned orders and copy targets

thanks for your help guys



Pictured above: my arse getting kicked in as I attempt to flee the system. I discovered a decently sized fleet not too far into the alpha centauri system, however, with my dumb beam ships only topping out at 2000 km/s I ditched the efforts in attacking the 6000 km/s ships

Even with (I think) appropriately assigning the fire controls my ships didn't seem to put up much of a fight at all against the incoming missiles. I did only have Twin 12cm C4 Near Ultraviolet Laser Turrets for point defense, so would I be correct in assuming that the poor defense was due to their tracking speed only going up to 10,000 km/s, while their missiles were traveling at 30,000 km/s? In the attempts one of the poor ships made it did say it had a 33% chance of hitting, so that seems about right. I really want to show these dudes what's what.

[Flying Dice]

1. In the Battle Control Window (F8), look on the right side. The three buttons under the 'Copy Assign' heading (TG, System, and Race) will copy all your fire control, weapon, point defense, missile load, ECCM, &c. assignments to every ship of that class in the group of whichever button you select (aka, TG copies the assignments to all ships of that class in the TG of the one you selected, so on and so forth for the others).

The two buttons under the 'Copy Target' heading (TG and System) do the same as above, except for targeting orders. So if Aegis 003 is targeting Precursor 075 with its heavy laser fire control and Precursor 084 with its missile fire control, clicking TG would copy those targeting assignments to every other Aegis-class ship in the task group, and so on for any possible combination.

If you want to set up the same PD orders for every ship of a given class, select one ship of that class. Assign the PD weapons to the PD fire controls you plan on using, set each fire control into the PD mode you're going to use for it, and then hit the Copy Race button.

2. You're doing better than most people on their first time with it. 

But yes, with PD (and drive) tech of that level, you're not going to have a snowball's chance in hell of stopping two-digit volleys of missiles going at speeds like that.

[Rinnix]

1. In the Battle Control Window (F8), look on the right side. The three buttons under the 'Copy Assign' heading (TG, System, and Race) will copy all your fire control, weapon, point defense, missile load, ECCM, &c. assignments to every ship of that class in the group of whichever button you select (aka, TG copies the assignments to all ships of that class in the TG of the one you selected, so on and so forth for the others).

The two buttons under the 'Copy Target' heading (TG and System) do the same as above, except for targeting orders. So if Aegis 003 is targeting Precursor 075 with its heavy laser fire control and Precursor 084 with its missile fire control, clicking TG would copy those targeting assignments to every other Aegis-class ship in the task group, and so on for any possible combination.

If you want to set up the same PD orders for every ship of a given class, select one ship of that class. Assign the PD weapons to the PD fire controls you plan on using, set each fire control into the PD mode you're going to use for it, and then hit the Copy Race button.

2. You're doing better than most people on their first time with it. 

But yes, with PD (and drive) tech of that level, you're not going to have a snowball's chance in hell of stopping two-digit volleys of missiles going at speeds like that.

I see. Glad I got all of that figured out for the future. And I'm especially glad I now know I had hardly a chance in that situation. Now I won't be spending the next couple of hours trying to combat an undefeatable menace with starting tech, haha. Thank you very much, you saved me from a decent amount of future incompetence.

[Flying Dice]

No worries, something like 75% of learning Aurora is minimizing the micromanagement haha.

[Edern76]

Hello.
I may be a complete idiot, but when I try to install the missing .dll file required for system view by using the command regsvr32, I got an error message telling me that it can't found the file (I put the .dll in my sysWOW64 folder and ran cmd as admin).
Any help ?

EDIT : Ok, I'm indeed a total idiot. My cmd was looking for the file in the system32 folder. If you have the same problem, just type "cd.." then "cd sysWOW64" (both without quotes) before entering regsvr32 msstdfmt.dll.

[Rinnix]

Well it's happening again

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

I'd approximate the number of alien ships to be close to an ass-load. 80 to be more exact, each armed with a meson cannon, RoF 1. And that Martadinata has 29 itself.. So basically my geosurvey fleet got instantly vaporized. Aliens are really starting to hurt my feelings. I have to wonder, what are the sorts of minimum requirements for fighting off such forces?

[Dorfs R Fun]

See the last 2 posts on the previous page.

[SkyMarshal]

Someone needs to perform !!SCIENCE!! On the lowest missile yield required to kill the little bastards.  I had some success with anti-ship missiles with built in active sensors.  After the target was killed, the remaining missiles acquired new targets automatically.  No idea how well that'd work in practice.

[Shooer]

My last game with warhead 9 missiles and a 65% chance to hit it took an average of 10 to kill/cripple.  5 Missiles per target gave a 20% kill cripple on the first hit and kill rate rose to a 90% on the following 5 missiles.  10 missiles in a single salvo was a 90%.

Those buggers actually do have armor layers.  What they don't have is the ability to quickly repair damaged engines.  Aim to cripple them at range with missiles and mop up with 100k+ range energy weapons.

[SkyMarshal]

I'd guess, then, that they have 2/3 armour layers if a size 9 warhead didn't reliably cripple?

[Shooer]

They didn't leak on the first hit, they had at 3 layers.  Kind of remembering when I used wh 16 missiles along time ago they crippled in 3-5 hits.  Then again those missiles had 100% chance to hit.  I'm wondering if the swarm uses the exact same ships in each game or if they are designed per game.

Trying to remember the time I had a running engagement with 80 some swarmers and had to rely on my AMMs to stop them.  Was just able to stop them then

[Bremen]

Spoilers for the SS under the block

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Soldier class Star Swarm    800 tons     7 Crew     245 BP      TCS 16  TH 160  EM 0
10000 km/s     Armour 3-7     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 0     PPV 4
Maint Life 0 Years     MSP 0    AFR 160%    IFR 2.2%    1YR 81    5YR 1208    Max Repair 90 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 0 months    Spare Berths -7   

160 EP Magneto-plasma Drive (1)    Power 160    Fuel Use 376.18%    Signature 160    Exp 20%
Fuel Capacity 10,000 Litres    Range 0.6 billion km   (16 hours at full power)

R12/C3 Meson Cannon (1)    Range 120,000km     TS: 10000 km/s     Power 6-3     RM 12    ROF 10        1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
Fire Control S03 60-10000 (1)    Max Range: 120,000 km   TS: 10000 km/s     92 83 75 67 58 50 42 33 25 17
Stellarator Fusion Reactor Technology PB-1 (1)     Total Power Output 3    Armour 0    Exp 5%

Active Search Sensor MR11-R1 (1)     GPS 28     Range 11.2m km    MCR 1.2m km    Resolution 1

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

[SkyMarshal]

So, three layers?  Hmmmm.

[Dorfs R Fun]

Spoilers for the SS under the block

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Soldier class Star Swarm    800 tons     7 Crew     245 BP      TCS 16  TH 160  EM 0
10000 km/s     Armour 3-7     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 0     PPV 4
Maint Life 0 Years     MSP 0    AFR 160%    IFR 2.2%    1YR 81    5YR 1208    Max Repair 90 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 0 months    Spare Berths -7   

160 EP Magneto-plasma Drive (1)    Power 160    Fuel Use 376.18%    Signature 160    Exp 20%
Fuel Capacity 10,000 Litres    Range 0.6 billion km   (16 hours at full power)

R12/C3 Meson Cannon (1)    Range 120,000km     TS: 10000 km/s     Power 6-3     RM 12    ROF 10        1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
Fire Control S03 60-10000 (1)    Max Range: 120,000 km   TS: 10000 km/s     92 83 75 67 58 50 42 33 25 17
Stellarator Fusion Reactor Technology PB-1 (1)     Total Power Output 3    Armour 0    Exp 5%

Active Search Sensor MR11-R1 (1)     GPS 28     Range 11.2m km    MCR 1.2m km    Resolution 1

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

The SS in one of my current games is 750 ton and can go slightly faster