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[FritzPL]

I assume that jumpgates can be simply found generated, since there isn't really a possibility that there's an empire two jumps away from Sol that hasn't totally destroyed me yet.

What's up with Particle Beams? Are they really plasma torpedo-related tech as someone told me a long time ago, or are they just a wierd wierd beam weapon?

[Metalax]

Yes, each jumppoint has a small chance that an ancient jumpgate has been constructed on it when the system is initially generated. Note that as the check occurs when each system is generated it is fairly rare to find one with a jumpgate already built on both sides.

Particle Beams used to be named Plasma Torpedoes. The name was changed when Steve introduced the Invaders and wanted to give them unique Torpedo weapons that functioned differently. Confusion arose because Steve originally missed changing the name in several places, although I believe they are now all fixed.

[Sean Mirrsen]

Is this game still unplayable for any laptop under 17''?

[FritzPL]

Flying Dice's sig has got a program called ResizeEnable. It's a small little thing, allowing you to change sizes of windows that are normally unchangeable - like in Aurora. Resizing needs some time to get used to, and the game is far from comfortable, but it's playable if you use that.

... this applies to my laptop with max resolution of 1366x768. Anything higher is pretty much normal, 1920x1080 being the optimal afaik. Anything lower - don't even bother downloading the game.

[Sean Mirrsen]

Eh, it's a spreadsheet simulator as-is. Having to resize windows in order to get at the required data is a bit too far over the usability threshold.

I guess that's what you get when you rely on Windows Forms for UI.

[Tres_Huevos]

I play on a 1280x800 resolution with just the "Reduced Height Windows" option, and have almost no problems. Nothing that hasn't been fixable by temporarily moving the task bar to the side to occasionally get to a rarely used button.

[deoloth]

You know...

I am not saying for sure shenanigans are going on...

But those 156x 1000 ton ships over Earth, with 11x 30k+ ton ships, plus the additional 122x 1000 ton ships this 'Friendly' NPR has put over Mars is starting to make me a tad worried.

Not sure how quickly i could shoot them down with my fleet and PDCs before they cause massive damage if relations soured.

[Flying Dice]

Yeah, I only needed ResizeEnable because I used to have a laptop with a 1024x768 screen. On another note, I think that the event message for discovering advanced particle beam tech in ruins still talks about plasma torpedoes.

As for that fleet, as long as they're in your territory relations /shouldn't/ degrade. Besides, just because there are nearly 300 of those FACs doesn't mean that they're combat-effective.

[Karlito]

Yeah, NPRs aren't smart enough to pretend to be friendly and backstab you, or anything like that, but they can be super annoying because they don't respect boundaries and will go around colonizing planets you're in the middle of terraforming and the like.

Really you'd have been better off enslaving them the moment you saw them.

[Flying Dice]

It's sort of sad, but that really is the only way to deal with NPRs. Just bomb them into submission and oppress oppress oppress until they've completely integrated into your social order.

[deoloth]

It is 25 years into my game. I have maybe 150 combat ships (Not including fighters).

Ignoring the nearly 300 they put into SOL, which i am sure i could tear into pieces, i am aware of at least 93x of the 32.5k ton ships. 117x 19.9k sized ships,  526x of the 1000 size ships that have passed through my deep space trackers. (I built some upon a roid within what i believe is their core system).

Though they have been fighting either another NPR, Swarm, or other, because i did find a few wrecks off so i have a good idea of their tech levels and at least my armor and engine techs are far superior as far as i know.

Considering the crippling uridium shortage Ive been fighting for most of my game, i don't think i have the ammo.

I really have not had much luck finding any good supplies of it, or at least any that was accessible, nor have my geologist teams been very successful.

[FritzPL]

Maybe buy supplies from civilian colonies or the NPR themselves? Maybe those 32.5kt ships are commercial freighters? Maybe you can bomb them into order with mass drivers?
I'm really curious what could the parameters of those ships be, as well as yours. Why don't you post what you have and try to get the rest?

[ndkid]

I play on a 1280x800 resolution with just the "Reduced Height Windows" option, and have almost no problems. Nothing that hasn't been fixable by temporarily moving the task bar to the side to occasionally get to a rarely used button.

And I never had any problem just using the windows feature on laptops that lets you have a resolution larger than the display area that then scrolls the window when you hit an edge.

[deoloth]

Well, time for my designs to be judged i suppose.

My Crossbow class Corvette. 67 in active service, currently the oldest military vessel in service without a retrofit. Is used grouped with other craft for quick hits, relies on other ships for PD.

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Crossbow class Corvette    9,000 tons     223 Crew     3354.3 BP      TCS 180  TH 450  EM 0
10416 km/s     Armour 4-38     Shields 0-0     Sensors 120/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 8     PPV 18
Maint Life 3.28 Years     MSP 1864    AFR 81%    IFR 1.1%    1YR 262    5YR 3927    Max Repair 625 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 6 months    Spare Berths 2   
Magazine 534   

625 EP Magnetic Fusion Drive (3)    Power 625    Fuel Use 15%    Signature 150    Exp 10%
Fuel Capacity 750,000 Litres    Range 100.0 billion km   (111 days at full power)

Size 3 Missile Launcher ROF-15 (6)    Missile Size 3    Rate of Fire 15
Missile Fire Control FC317-R110 (30%) (1)     Range 317.1m km    Resolution 110
Size 3 Anti-ship Missile Wisp (178)  Speed: 33,300 km/s   End: 156.1m    Range: 312m km   WH: 9    Size: 3    TH: 155/93/46

Active Search Sensor MR322-R120 (30%) (1)     GPS 25200     Range 322.1m km    Resolution 120
Thermal Sensor TH5-120 (1)     Sensitivity 120     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  120m km

ECCM-3 (1)         ECM 30

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

Scimitar Light Cruiser, 21 in service, holds stronger missiles. Relies on other ships for PD.

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Scimitar class Light Cruiser    18,750 tons     484 Crew     6293.5 BP      TCS 375  TH 900  EM 0
10000 km/s     Armour 7-62     Shields 0-0     Sensors 120/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 23     PPV 48
Maint Life 3.24 Years     MSP 4825    AFR 122%    IFR 1.7%    1YR 695    5YR 10426    Max Repair 1250 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 6 months    Spare Berths 0   
Magazine 1338   

1250 EP Magnetic Fusion Drive (3)    Power 1250    Fuel Use 10%    Signature 300    Exp 10%
Fuel Capacity 1,000,000 Litres    Range 96.0 billion km   (111 days at full power)

Size 3 Missile Launcher ROF-15 (    Missile Size 3    Rate of Fire 15
Size 6 Missile Launcher - RoF 30 (4)    Missile Size 6    Rate of Fire 30
Missile Fire Control FC317-R110 (30%) (1)     Range 317.1m km    Resolution 110
Size 3 Anti-ship Missile Wisp (224)  Speed: 33,300 km/s   End: 156.1m    Range: 312m km   WH: 9    Size: 3    TH: 155/93/46
Size 6 Anti-ship Missile Locket (111)  Speed: 52,100 km/s   End: 80.2m    Range: 250.8m km   WH: 21    Size: 6    TH: 173/104/52

Active Search Sensor MR322-R120 (30%) (1)     GPS 25200     Range 322.1m km    Resolution 120
Thermal Sensor TH5-120 (1)     Sensitivity 120     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  120m km

ECCM-3 (1)         ECM 30

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

Clairvaux class Scout Cruiser, 13 in active service. Wide area detection, and PD, ship. 

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Clairvaux class Scout Cruiser    23,950 tons     573 Crew     12794 BP      TCS 479  TH 1200  EM 0
10438 km/s     Armour 10-74     Shields 0-0     Sensors 120/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 46     PPV 6
Maint Life 4.68 Years     MSP 15359    AFR 99%    IFR 1.4%    1YR 1145    5YR 17172    Max Repair 2400 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 48 months    Spare Berths 0   
Magazine 372   

1250 EP Magnetic Fusion Drive (4)    Power 1250    Fuel Use 10%    Signature 300    Exp 10%
Fuel Capacity 3,000,000 Litres    Range 225.5 billion km   (250 days at full power)

Size 1 Missile Launcher - RoF 5 (6)    Missile Size 1    Rate of Fire 5
Missile Fire Control FC50-R1 (30%) (1)     Range 50.4m km    Resolution 1
Size 1 Anti-missile Zip (372)  Speed: 50,000 km/s   End: 31.1m    Range: 93.3m km   WH: 2    Size: 1    TH: 166/100/50

Active Search Sensor MR1502-R80 (30%) WA (2)     GPS 96000     Range 1,502.6m km    Resolution 80
Active Search Sensor MR42-R1 (30%) Point (1)     GPS 300     Range 42.0m km    Resolution 1
Thermal Sensor TH5-120 (1)     Sensitivity 120     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  120m km

ECM 30

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

Celtic Rain Battlecruiser. 4 in Service. Spearhead command ship for operation. Extra backup systems in case of system failures.

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Celtic Rain class Battlecruiser    69,900 tons     1719 Crew     25955.4 BP      TCS 1398  TH 3000  EM 7500
8941 km/s     Armour 8-151     Shields 250-300     Sensors 240/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 192     PPV 128
Maint Life 3.9 Years     MSP 23673    AFR 383%    IFR 5.3%    1YR 2461    5YR 36918    Max Repair 2400 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 48 months    Spare Berths 0   
Flag Bridge    Magazine 3224   

1250 EP Magnetic Fusion Drive (10)    Power 1250    Fuel Use 10%    Signature 300    Exp 10%
Fuel Capacity 9,000,000 Litres    Range 231.8 billion km   (300 days at full power)
Xi R300/240 Shields (50)   Total Fuel Cost  500 Litres per hour  (12,000 per day)

Size 1 Missile Launcher - RoF 5 (20)    Missile Size 1    Rate of Fire 5
Size 3 Missile Launcher ROF-15 (20)    Missile Size 3    Rate of Fire 15
Size 12 Missile Launcher RoF - 55 (4)    Missile Size 12    Rate of Fire 55
Missile Fire Control FC50-R1 (30%) (2)     Range 50.4m km    Resolution 1
Missile Fire Control FC522-R85 (30%) (2)     Range 522.7m km    Resolution 85
Size 3 Anti-ship Missile Wisp (700)  Speed: 33,300 km/s   End: 156.1m    Range: 312m km   WH: 9    Size: 3    TH: 155/93/46
Size 12 Anti-ship Missile Biter (52)  Speed: 62,500 km/s   End: 136.1m    Range: 510.3m km   WH: 36    Size: 12    TH: 208/125/62
Size 1 Anti-missile Zip (500)  Speed: 50,000 km/s   End: 31.1m    Range: 93.3m km   WH: 2    Size: 1    TH: 166/100/50

Active Search Sensor MR322-R120 (30%) (2)     GPS 25200     Range 322.1m km    Resolution 120
Active Search Sensor MR1502-R80 (30%) WA (1)     GPS 96000     Range 1,502.6m km    Resolution 80
Active Search Sensor MR42-R1 (30%) Point (2)     GPS 300     Range 42.0m km    Resolution 1
Thermal Sensor TH10-240 (40%) (1)     Sensitivity 240     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  240m km

ECCM-3 (1)         ECM 40

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

Kora fast attack craft. 14 in service. Newly developed and designed for quick response and interception from support fleet.

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Kora class Fast Attack Craft    9,500 tons     276 Crew     3866.1 BP      TCS 190  TH 3500  EM 0
18421 km/s     Armour 3-39     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 5     PPV 18
Maint Life 1.48 Years     MSP 1399    AFR 131%    IFR 1.8%    1YR 713    5YR 10689    Max Repair 875 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 6 months    Spare Berths 1   
Magazine 384   

1750 EP Magnetic Fusion Drive Speed (2)    Power 1750    Fuel Use 23.19%    Signature 1750    Exp 14%
Fuel Capacity 550,000 Litres    Range 44.9 billion km   (28 days at full power)

Size 1 Missile Launcher - RoF 5 (6)    Missile Size 1    Rate of Fire 5
Size 6 Missile Launcher - RoF 30 (2)    Missile Size 6    Rate of Fire 30
Missile Fire Control FC317-R110 (30%) (1)     Range 317.1m km    Resolution 110
Missile Fire Control FC50-R1 (30%) (1)     Range 50.4m km    Resolution 1
Size 6 Anti-ship Missile Locket (45)  Speed: 52,100 km/s   End: 80.2m    Range: 250.8m km   WH: 21    Size: 6    TH: 173/104/52
Size 1 Anti-missile Zip (114)  Speed: 50,000 km/s   End: 31.1m    Range: 93.3m km   WH: 2    Size: 1    TH: 166/100/50

Active Search Sensor MR322-R120 (30%) (1)     GPS 25200     Range 322.1m km    Resolution 120
Active Search Sensor MR42-R1 (30%) Point (1)     GPS 300     Range 42.0m km    Resolution 1

ECCM-3 (1)         ECM 40

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

Temple Planetary Defense Center. 3 Located on Earth.

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Temple class Planetary Defence Centre    59,050 tons     1063 Crew     10094.25 BP      TCS 1181  TH 0  EM 0
Armour 26-135     Sensors 120/0     Damage Control Rating 120     PPV 250
Intended Deployment Time: 48 months    Spare Berths 0   
Troop Capacity: 5 Battalions    Magazine 5035   

Fuel Capacity 50,000 Litres    Range N/A
Size 1 Missile Launcher - RoF 5 (10)    Missile Size 1    Rate of Fire 5
Size 3 Missile Launcher ROF-15 (20)    Missile Size 3    Rate of Fire 15
PDC Size 12 Missile Launcher - Rof 30 (10)    Missile Size 12    Rate of Fire 30
Size 6 Missile Launcher - RoF 30 (10)    Missile Size 6    Rate of Fire 30
Missile Fire Control FC522-R85 (30%) (2)     Range 522.7m km    Resolution 85
Missile Fire Control FC50-R1 (30%) (5)     Range 50.4m km    Resolution 1
Size 3 Anti-ship Missile Wisp (300)  Speed: 33,300 km/s   End: 156.1m    Range: 312m km   WH: 9    Size: 3    TH: 155/93/46
Size 6 Anti-ship Missile Locket (222)  Speed: 52,100 km/s   End: 80.2m    Range: 250.8m km   WH: 21    Size: 6    TH: 173/104/52
Size 12 Anti-ship Missile Biter (200)  Speed: 62,500 km/s   End: 136.1m    Range: 510.3m km   WH: 36    Size: 12    TH: 208/125/62
Size 1 Anti-missile Zip (400)  Speed: 50,000 km/s   End: 31.1m    Range: 93.3m km   WH: 2    Size: 1    TH: 166/100/50

Thermal Sensor TH5-120 (1)     Sensitivity 120     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  120m km

ECCM-3 (2)         Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s


This design is classed as a Planetary Defence Centre and can be pre-fabricated in 24 sections

So my count is 119 combat ships ships (excluding survey ships, tankers, etc) so oops on my early estimate. I know PD is light on my main ships, otherwise i think they are decent. I do have Gauss tech up, just never got around redesigning the crossbow and scimitar with a CIWS as most of my fights have gone well with PD support from the Clairvaux or Celtic Rain ships.

I know that those 1000 size ships have 4x Size 4 Launchers (25% reduction) as i have salvage that many from a single one before. I know next to nothing about the 32.5k ships, though they keep moving in and out of my sensor range which does make me suspect that they could be freighters.  Never salvaged either the 32.5k or the 19.9k ton ships.

Did two 5 day bursts and the 1000 ton ships that were on earth moved away. Not sure where they all went, total count of them in active sensors is now 179 on Mars.

[Scoops Novel]

It's sort of sad, but that really is the only way to deal with NPRs. Just bomb them into submission and oppress oppress oppress until they've completely integrated into your social order.

Could you elaborate? I'm building a mental feature list and i was unaware of this.

Earlier in the thread someone mentioned newbs crowdsourcing designs to learn the ropes. I'd like to take you up on that.