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[Pandarsenic]

For scum at night, if the scum has a partner, I let prodding be an internal matter. If it's solo scum I prod.

[Org]

Then why did you say you prodded me twice?

[Pandarsenic]

I said you were prodded twice. Teammate prods count.

[Org]

Not right now.

And it would be three, but Cobalt's should not count.

[Org]

Cobalt Kobold sent the team prod thing.

I sent one, as well.  I think I might have even sent two, or at least I did a hell of a lot of raging in the scumchat.

However, I still want him to have a vanilla C.  If we change the policy to include teammate prods, it's unfair to change it before people have a chance to get wind of it and adjust their behaviors accordingly.

One

And sorry about that. I do check it.

[dakarian]

1 few notes:

1. The votes are in.  Org officially gets a C rank after uPick mafia. 

2. Vote mafia is now in.

3. I'm STILL waiting on the results for Vector/Neruz Bastard and One Lynch Mafia.


4. I need an idea on what the official word is for Prods..  What constitutes a prod... when SHOULD a prod be sent.. when is it a prod and when is it NOT a prod.. ext.

[ToonyMan]

If they don't post in 24 hours when they have posted in other threads.

Oh wait, that's lurking.

[Org]

Yeah, unless they say before hand they wont be there, a day of no posting should equal prod.

or 1+1/2 day

[Zai]

3. I'm STILL waiting on the results for One Lynch Mafia.

Pretty much everybody stopped caring about/bothering with that (days without posting from anyone, including host).

[Vector]

I have absolutely no data on Vector/Neruz.  As far as I know, no prods were sent, but you'll have to get verification from Neruz (additionally, ExKirby's "replacement" doesn't count).

As far as prods go, that's a good question.  I still remember Laetificus' super-lurk from BMIV, where it was clear that he was posting only when his name came up as a strategy.  As a doctor, it was reasonable.

The question is this, really: how do we determine between the lurking "strategy" and the lurking trait?  I figure we should have prods for those who disappear for >24 hours with no warning, with the theory that those who are lurking as a strategy--either as town or scum--will PM in every 24 hours, and that those who just lurk and don't care won't bother to do that (and can thus be caught relatively easily).

[dakarian]

Well, I knwo what I do for scum: let them lurk.  If they are active during the night phase and chatting in quickchat, I'll never prod them.  If the town asks for a prod, I'll send a 'prod' but it won't be counted against them.  During the day, the only reason scum would need to talk at all is to avoid detection: if the town lets them stay silent all game then that's the town's fault.

If they don't chat in scumchat either, I'll fuss at them, but normally don't prod either.

On the other hand, if they delay the night I WILL prod them, and faster than typical town power roles. So you can say that I expect activity for the town in day and activity for the scum at night.

As for townies wishing to lurk... I used to allow PMing, but I found that you just end up with people PMing you and no one chatting.  Players that are willfully lurking (posting everywhere but in the game purposely) and those that are just not showing up end up causing the game to slow just as badly.  It gets worse when it's near lylo and someone decides to do that, since no one will be able to get anything out of them and, thus, the game grinds to a halt.


I guess there can be times when certain townies will want to lurk.. but I'm not sure how to let them only so long as the game doesn't drag.

[Leafsnail]

Lynch All Lurkers Mafia was an enjoyable read.  Can't find the link since mafiascum isn't letting me search, but I seem to remember the basic mechanic was that if a mafia member managed to successfully lurk for a predefined length of time they would get an extra nightkill.

[dakarian]

wow...

I'll remember that type of role

[Leafsnail]

It was interesting - the mechanic seemed horrifically anti-town (mafia could get lots of extra kills in the event of activity death) but the fact that everyone was forced to post regularly or get lynched really helped the town.  It also meant the mod didn't need to prod anyone.

Actually, dakarian, consider testing a system where the mafia is rewarded for lurking in future.

[Org]

Dak, I am sending Redwarrior a prod. I am sending it to you for confirmation.

I think thats what other people should do, so that we can confirm it as an actual Prod.