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[Alexhans]

lol...  New McDonalds ad in bombay!

Come eat in McDonalds...

Our Godly Hamburgers!

[dakarian]

This won't stop being updated.

[webadict]

BYOR2 is finally over. Archangel gets a big ol' F.

Everyone else did fine, except for ExKirby, who is being dealt with.

[dakarian]

Arch needs two games at issue to be marked an F.

Now if he broke a rule, that's something that can be handled for now. 

The bleeding-heart in me, though, makes me think that the talk last season should be enough to keep this from happening again.

And if not, well, THEN there will be 2 games to provide an F rank.

Your call though since you're the host.  a Warning, a minor, or a critical rule break for those two?

[Pandarsenic]

Archangel, just for reference, claimed cult leader and kinda fucked the mafia over by talking about his inability to recruit me, right?

[dakarian]

yup..  big question: could it be seen as a "BIG SLIP" or a "Oh #%R)$#( it I'm scum.. I don't care"?

If the former.. we don't punish bad/foolish play .

[Pandarsenic]

I'll let the them address that.

[webadict]

Archangel, just for reference, claimed cult leader and kinda fucked the mafia over by talking about his inability to recruit me, right?

Almost. He screwed over his team, which included dakarian. He never played to win. Now, if he were about to be lynched, I'm all for that. But he wasn't. He just claimed he was Cult Leader and got himself lynched.

[dakarian]

the question: Do you believe he'll do it again considering the fuss we've made?

Note that if he does, BYOR2 and the next game he does it in will be enough to warrant a Rank F request.  As such, will an actual act on top of the threat be needed at the moment?

one reason why I speak like this: we never really did discuss the matter of Play To Win until recently, and not everyone has had the concept drilled into them from MafiaScum (I know I'm trying to remember to write the rule into future games)

[webadict]

the question: Do you believe he'll do it again considering the fuss we've made?

Note that if he does, BYOR2 and the next game he does it in will be enough to warrant a Rank F request.  As such, will an actual act on top of the threat be needed at the moment?

one reason why I speak like this: we never really did discuss the matter of Play To Win until recently, and not everyone has had the concept drilled into them from MafiaScum (I know I'm trying to remember to write the rule into future games)

Okay, dakarian. Here's the deal: Archangel doesn't learn. He joins games, knowing outright that he will lurk for a HUGE MAJORITY OF THE GAME. He'll post like 4 times in a game that lasts a month. He might not break this rule, but he doesn't post. And it is one of the single most annoying things ever. I honestly want to stab him in the throat. But, all that would do is make him lurk more.

So, he needs to learn this. He can't do whatever he wants. Whether or not he gets an F, very few people will let him into games. If he becomes able to post once a Day, then by all means he can play. But, he doesn't and probably won't.

We actually ended a game a long time ago with 10 players and 1 scum because Archangel never posted (And he was the last scum.) It's a joke.

[dakarian]

That's what the system is meant to catch actually.  The SECOND I spot someone who goes more than 24 hours, I plop a prod on them.  If they do it again the same game, They drop to a B Rank.  A third in the same game is all it takes to knock them to D Rank.  Even if the game ends before 2 prods show up at the same time, 3 prods is enough to mark a C rank. 

Real example: RedWarrior disappeared for a day in Christmas Mafia so I prod him.  He didn't reply to me or post for one more day and JUST that is enough for a forced replace.  When Christmas Mafia ends, he'll be at E Rank until March.  Even after March, technically his rank will reset but the old rank will show up for another 3 months, and there's nothing that says that a host can't keep out someone for last quarter's rank.  (suddenly pondering if 3 months is too short given that games tend to last about 1 month.. not hard to just turn this into a semester..we'll see)


As it stands, the only people I allow to lurk are mafia: everyone else gets pushed.  As such, if I'm hosting and you notice someone 'never posting' but not getting replaced then it's a fair bet that you can lynch them as scum (in fact, I've already seen it happen).  Yes, I don't advertise the prods all that often but still, if someone is lurking THAT badly, and they are still around, they aren't town. 


Short of it is: The days of seeing stupid stuff like that are DONE.  Between this system and hosts pushing hard on the prods (minirant: hosts here don't prod NEARLY as much as I would like them to) you won't see games going dead anymore unless the game was bad enough to cause everyone to just drop it.

[CobaltKobold]

one reason why I speak like this: we never really did discuss the matter of Play To Win until recently, and not everyone has had the concept drilled into them from MafiaScum (I know I'm trying to remember to write the rule into future games)

Objection.

[dakarian]

YOU SAW NOTHING!!!!!!!!






Wait.. what's the objection about?

[ToonyMan]

There should be a rule against Doctors being lynched Day 1.

[dakarian]

*Glances at the fix that had to be done in Bellsounder*

The rule is: If you are a Doctor, you die day 1.


Sidenote: Perhaps this revives the old statement: If he looks like scum, he's probably the doctor.