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[squeak]

hi! i've tried to start a goblin fort as i've heard of before on these forums, but i have encountered a problem, i moved the civ_controllable tag as described, do i need to do anything else to make them usable?
i embarked once and whatever i did they wouldn't cut down trees :S
going to try again though....

ps. not sure if this is the right place to post this, feel free to point out if i have made a mistake!

[Ravenplucker]

I think there is already a goblin fortress mod out there. seek it out, it looks pretty good.

[squeak]

apparently i took the wrong axes... i got it to work ok, and my home goblin civ did come and trade with me, surviving without farming is hard though, even in the very safe area i embark in anyone set to hunt (i have crossbows and bolts) dies a horrible death

[squeak]

also i have tried looking on the forums and on the wiki for such a mod, i cannot find much on them

[Murphy]

Why mods? Isn't just moving the [civ_controllable] tag enough?

[assimilateur]

Why mods? Isn't just moving the [civ_controllable] tag enough?

Technically, yes. But for all I know, vanilla goblins might be unplayable (not literally, but I hope you know what I mean). The fact that the OP mentioned allegedly taking the wrong* axes seems to hint at gobs needing some streamlining before being comfortably playable.

* There should be no wrong axes for chopping wood. Even a halberd or great axe (I've tested the former, and thus surmise that the latter will be the same) is useful for woodcutting as long as you switch your woodcutter to two-handed weapon usage. If that won't cut it, then you're going to have to decrease the size requirements for those weapons. While this might be a hassle, it can be preferable reembarking or having to wait for traders to bring battle axes.

[Murphy]

Ah, so they would be playable, with some quirks, but nothing truly bad. I didn't play much with goblins, and was just thinking I might have overlooked something critical for later gameplay.

[darkflagrance]

In theory, one could use this mod:

http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=47561.0

[squeak]

i did eventually get it to work ok, its quite strange to see goblins running around instead of dorfs. one strange thing is goblin caravans from my home civ appear to arrive every season. this will be interesting to explore...
thanks very much for the link to the mod!

[assimilateur]

with some quirks, but nothing truly bad

Technically, I can't be sure about the second part. One won't know that until one looks at (and understands) the raws, or better yet, tests playable goblins properly. I have done neither.

one strange thing is goblin caravans from my home civ appear to arrive every season.

Look at your raws and check during which seasons your goblins are active. Dwarves are only active during autumn, which is when they send caravans. Default goblins are active all year, so if the mod hasn't changed this, I'm not at all surprised about you getting caravans four times a year.

[darkflagrance]

It's partly to balance the fact that the other civs in the game are at war with you. Thus, it is a feature, not a bug 

[assimilateur]

Ha, I wouldn't have called that a bug either. I was just explaining why this (most likely) worked as it did in case Squeak wanted to change it.