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[EagleV]

Yeah, I really like this game.
I look forward to it.

Would it be okay if I post a rivaling strategy game on here?
Because I had an idea for a game about 2 to 3 years ago.
It might need some testing on here, before I learn to program and actually make it.

Thanks
And as long as you do it in another topic, post as many rival games as you want. It's not like I could stop you, even if I would want to .

[EagleV]

Spoiler: inteuniso (click to show/hide)

Survivors of Mossena Arcade

This time, the riflemakers test each component beforehand, and once they get the hang of it, it goes fast. They build 3 more coil rifles, and only need 12 pieces of scrap. (1d100 = 87 + 10)The ammo doesn't go as well. They manage to craft some, but it's crude and ineffective, and they need to discard quite a few bad magazines. (1d100 = 13+10)

The kitchen doesn't go as planned - for some reason, everything goes wrong. The ceiling plates come loose again, the fire doesn't start, and they can't find anything useful in the scrap. After a day of hard work, they haven't really done anything yet. (1d100 = 9)

As you dig out the room, you notice that the ruby you found was the biggest of a few - you get 3 smaller ones, although the big one is still bigger than the three others together... (4d100 = 97,42,32,67)

The corridor is dug out further, and one of the miners produces a spark when he hits something - carefully removing the rock around it, he uncovers a deposit of flint stones! And the stroke of luck hasn't stopped yet, as only a few meters further, a meteorite was buried in the ground! (2d100 = 88,100!)

The jetpack is an old model, and should still be usefull if a few components are replaced, though it needs fuel. If the scientists want to make an electric one, they'll have to start from scratch - though they now have an idea of how it should be made. (2d100 = 69,73)

The reflective cells are not willing to give up their secrets - the one thing the scientists can make up, is that they have a high concentration of minerals. (1d100 = 43)

The scientists have trouble mounting the coilguns on a turret. A metal turret would get electrified or overheated by the strong magnetic fields, while wooden or plastic turrets won't be able to handle the recoil. They'll need some polymeric stuff or other non-conductive hard stuff. (1d100 = 34)

The crew that went to the farm is attacked by a group of raiders! Although they manage to hold them off and retreat, they suffer heavy losses - 1 miner and 4 traders have fallen, and a pistol has been lost. (4d100 = 1,6,59,18)

Status:
2570 water
2712 food
36 scrap

Available troops:
54 miners + 1 Heavily Wounded + 1 lightly wounded (4 †)
20 scientists
15 crafters
14 traders + 1 HW

Items:
4 Coil Hunting Rifles
5 Coil Shells
4 Semi-auto 'Mossena' pistols
7 Mossena Cartridges, 8 shots each
1 Wolf corpse, cut open
10 space suits
Coil Rifle Blueprints (crafting +10%)
2-seater Trike
1 Fist-sized Ruby. What in Hell.
3 small rubies.
1 Old, Rusty Jetpack. What in Hell².
1 Meteorite. What in Hell (tm)

Outside Buildings:
Trade Depot, space for vehicle, pulley system.
3 x 3 plot

Spoiler: x2yzh9 (click to show/hide)

Populus of Palus

15 scientists depart early today to search the area for plant seeds.They find a wild strawberry bush, and although there is no fruit, they take with them several stems to clone the plants. They also bring several handfuls of hazelnuts - no more than a snack, though planting them will net a lot. They think you will be able to plant at least 5 strawberry plots and 10 hazel plots. (3d100 = 40,79,86) You can furrow and plant the plots in the same turn.The strawberries can also be planted inside, though that will cost some water each turn.

The miners continue digging for ore. A great succes, not only can they present to you a grand total of 13 pieces of Iron Ore and 8 of Tin, they also stumble upon a small patch of pure platinum! (11d100 = 47,84,100,11,13,82,87,57,41,65,32)

The crafters build a furnace, and although they screw up the first pieces of copper, the rest is made into some nice bars - untill, at one of the last bars, the resistor that jumpstarted the fire overheats and blows up! Luckily, the crafter had safety goggles - else he'd never see again. He has some burns in his face, though nothing that prevents him from working. (3d100 = 11,93,2)You also notice that iron has a higher yield than copper or tin in terms of scrap.

You traders are as diplomatic as diplomatic traders can be. They also bring a few barrels of water, although a pipe might be usefull if you want to transport more.

(I take it you trade the water for the rifle blueprints? )

Status:
2580 water
2500 food
57 scrap

Available troops:
54 miners + 1 Heavily wounded
19 scientists + 1 HW
15 crafters
10 traders

Items:
10 space suits
1 Message-sending radar
1 Rail Turret, uses PoPDarts
100 PoPDarts
13 Pieces of Iron
8 Pieces of Tin
3 Pieces of Platinum
Strawberry stems, 5 plots
Hazelnuts, for 10 plots
Coil Rifle Blueprints

Outside Buildings:
Rail Turret Emplacement, needs 1 crew on the spot to operate.

Spoiler: Nirur Torir (click to show/hide)

Torir Hegemony

The miners advance only slowly, yet they clear the rubble and dig for more iron. The iron vein is exhausted, and an accident is barely avoided when the craftsmen support the cracking ceiling. The miners show you 5 iron nuggets, 2 of which still had the magnetic component. (4d100 = 81,66,20,11) (1d100 = 53)

The man on the drilling machine puts on his helmet and protective clothing. 'Here she goes!' When he pulls the cord, the machine starts vibrating under his feet. He cautiously brings it to the far wall of the mine, and the drill goes into the stone like a knife in butter. After some drilling, 5 pieces of the metal come loose - your scientists identify it as aluminium! (1d100 = 74)

Some of the miners furrow more of the ground around the bunker, though the work is hard and they still feel soar from yesterday, so only a 3 x 1 area gets done. (4d100 = 32,49,15,54)

The scientists continue to examine the gun, though its design is unlike anything they know, and they are ashamed to tell you they opened it and can't get it back together. (2d100 = 3,13)

The craftsmen get a lot of wood, and in  a days time they manage to make 10 crossbows, including lots of long wooden stakes as ammo. (1d100 = 57)

Although the work seems useless at first, as some components just won't fit the new design, a crafter finds two telescopic tubes among the scrap - just what they needed. They add three more seats to the design and add some light armor plates, though the buggy won't be able to handle much more weight. (3d100 = 32,29,87) They use 18 scrap.

The salvage crew encounters nothing on the way to the car, and after some examination, they discover that the car still rolls! At nightfall, the car finally is pushed in sight of the bunker and rolled to the scrap pile. (2d100 = 39,78)

Status:
2507 water
2307 food
30 scrap

Available troops:
45 miners (5 †)
20 scientists
20 crafters
8 traders (2 †)

Items:
9 space suits
2 9mm handguns
42 9mm cartridges, 12 ammo each
50 empty AA batteries
10 bows
22 arrows
1 electric buggy, 4 seats, light armor
11 pieces of iron
3 pieces of magnetic iron
1 old sixbarrel, open.
10 crossbows
100 wooden stakes
1 carwreck

Outside Buildings:
3 x 5 plot

Spoiler: Current map (click to show/hide)

[Rooster]

You might want to balance a little.
At the beginning everything needed so much scrap, and now they can produce rifles from 4 scrap?
Seems that scrap is pretty much everything other than food and water?
Expect praise, for such an idea. I love it because it reminds me of alphaman.

[EagleV]

You might want to balance a little.
At the beginning everything needed so much scrap, and now they can produce rifles from 4 scrap?
Seems that scrap is pretty much everything other than food and water?

You're right, the rifles should cost a little more. I'll fix it.
And scrap is, well, everything that isn't worth describing and can be used to craft stuff. Mostly metal components. I'm not going to add more resources, it's a lot of work to keep track of everything as it is already.

[x2yzh9]

Populus of Palus

Have All scientists plant all the seeds
refine all ore using 5 craftsman
build a pipeline to the SMA base with 10 craftsmen
have 54 miners dig out spAce for a laboratory east of the hydroponics Area.

[inteuniso]

Survivors of Mossena Arcade

"Redshirt 1, why!" Inteuniso cried as he smashed his hands on his small, plastic command table. After the loss of 5 people, he was starting to lose the confidence of his bunker. Worse yet, he was losing valuable manpower that could be used to find other survivors besides these... raiders. He would need a lab for the scientists, and more weapons to combat raiders, giant wolves, and whatever else was out there waiting for them. His southern expedition plan was forming up nicely. He already had support from the other two bunkers, and he himself had supplies and weaponry for the chosen he was sending. It would not be a big expedition, but it would be an extremely well-equipped one. Also, He had heard reports of refining mined ore, something he had not considered and really should have. It would be helpful for any turrets he wished to build, and any other fantastic contraptions he thought of.

Have 5 of my crafters build the laboratory. Make sure not to damage any of the precious lab equipment!

Have 6 crafters make Mossena ammo, and Mossena rifles, that use the same clips and ammo that the pistols use.

Have 4 crafters make just coil rifle ammo.

Have 10 scientists begin to figure out how to synthetically generate materials using a handy-dandy T1 rip-off.

Have 5 scientists research. They have their lab, use it.

Have the last 5 scientists search for water. Aquifers, rivers, anything. Take a 2 man miner escort with them, both of them carrying coil rifles.

Have the 50 miners carve out a 3-tile hallway to the south of storage, and then begin digging a 4x3 room.

Have 3 miners and 14 traders start gathering berries and other plant-able objects. Once finished, plant any of them in the farm plot. Have the 3 miners and 1 trader carry the pistols, one clip each.

[Nirur Torir]

Torir Hegemony

1 miner will man the drill and continue mining aluminum.

20 scientists and 5 craftsmen will continue working with the gun. I want the same knowledge from last turn, and I want it working.

15 craftsmen will fix the wrecked car up with an electric motor. Hopefully there will be time to armor it and give it a mount for a weapon.

4 miners will stand guard with the best weapons available.

40 miners will look for metal veins nearby, outside the bunker.

[EagleV]

Spoiler: inteuniso (click to show/hide)

Survivors of Mossena Arcade

The laboratory is designed well, and the crafters have an easy time fitting everything together. Your scientists will be glad that they have some equipment now. (1d100 = 67)

The crafters now get the trick of quickly crafting mossena ammo, and having some experience with the ammmo, one of them manages to come up with a suitable rifle design. The rifles use standard Mossena ammo, and are slower but more accurate than the pistols. (2d100 = 63,72) They use 17 scrap.

The coil rifle ammo goes a lot better than last time, and lots of shells are added to the locker that you keep weapons in. (1d100 = 62) 13 scrap is formed into shells.

The T1 generator doesn't really generate air - it changes unusable air in usable air. Working on that principle, your scientists have a design that can form cellulose-based plastics from wood, and resources it gathers from the air. However, it can be used only outside, unless you want your people to suffocate in a thick, chemical vapor. (2d100 = 89,60)

It's difficult for the scientists and the craftsmen still building the lab to work together, and after a few clumsy hours the leading crafter boots the scientists out of the lab. "Come back when it's finished!" (1d100 = 21)

Some scientists go exploring for a source of water, taking the miners with them. It doesn't take long before they encounter a pattern in the plants that's typical for underground water, and indeed, some digging reveals an underground stream, providing more than enough water for your bunker. (1d100 = 98)

Although the work goes slowly in the start, your miners gradually get warmed up for yet another working day, and they dig the hallway and a bit of the room. (5d100 = 32,14,90,61,54)

A bit to the south, the explorers find a field of what was once corn. They bring a whole bunch of seeds that survived, and are on the way back when one of them stumbles and slams his nose into a loose rock. He gets to the bunker, but his nose is broken and will require some time to heal again. The corn is planted, and all 9 plots are used, with enoug corns for some more planting.

Random event: one of the miners, seeing the rifles, is reminded of his time as an instructor in the Earthern army. He tells you that for the good of the people, he is willing to teach the men how to shoot, if you provide some targets and time.

Status:
2470 water
2612 food
18 scrap

Available troops:
55 miners + 1 HW (4 †)
20 scientists
15 crafters
14 traders + 1 HW + 1 MW

Items:
4 Coil Hunting Rifles
34 Coil Shells
4 Semi-auto 'Mossena' pistols
2 Manual 'Mossena' rifles
25 Mossena Cartridges, 8 shots each
1 Wolf corpse, cut open
10 space suits
Coil Rifle Blueprints (crafting +10%)
2-seater Trike
1 Fist-sized Ruby. What in Hell.
3 small rubies.
1 Old, Rusty Jetpack. What in Hell˛.
1 Meteorite. What in Hell (tm)
1 Plastics Fabricator

Outside Buildings:
Trade Depot, space for vehicle, pulley system.
3 x 3 plot
Underground river

Farming:
9 corn plots (1) (o)

Spoiler: x2yzh9 (click to show/hide)

Populus of Palus

The strawberry stems are all planted in the hydrophonics farm in a matter of minutes, and some scientists stay there to take further care of them - after all, none of them has much planting experience. The others start working outside. They hope to furrow at least a 3 by one area, though the work is hard and they're not used to it - only 2 plots get done, and they get to sleep, exhausted and soar from the labour. (3d100 = 28,10,48)

It seems so easy in the movies. Fire goes on, ore goes in, iron comes out. Not really realistic it seems, as your crafters still struggle to get a new smelter up and running. The ore doesn't even come near a fire this day, as constant tweaking of the oven takes a whole day - and a patch of skin from one of the unlucky crafters, as he accidentaly grabs a hote plate without gloves. (1d100 = 4)

A pipeline over a distance of a days travel. It seems a bit megalomanic to the crafters, yet they go to work, and while they dig a trench for it to fit in, they encounter an old water pipe! Of course, your people are not the first that would want to transport water to these areas. The pipe runs in the right direction as far as they can see, and they manage to hook it up to your water supply, using 16 scrap pipes. Now only to do the same at the bunker of the SMA. (1d100 = 85)

The miners dig out a nice room east of the hydrophonics, when suddenly a pickaxe glances of off the rock and the pommel hits the unlucky miner right in the nuts! When the evening falls, the swelling has lessened a lot, and the wound is not much more than a funny anecdote that the other miners share with everyone that wants to hear it. Still, it is questionable if the man will ever have children. (5d100 = 50,51,43,2,37)

Random Event: the 2 wounded miners watch the scientists doing their job, and are intrigued by the several chemical substances that can let plants grow - as well as the knowledge of the scientists themselves. At night, 5 of the miners have long discussions with a scientist they befriended, and that scientist proposes to teach them the basics of geology. (You can give 5 scientists and 5 miners one day, in order to train the latter to geologists. Geologists act as both scientists and miners.)


Status:
2580 water
2400 food
41 scrap

Available troops:
54 miners + 1 HW
19 scientists + 1 HW
14 crafters + 1 LW
10 traders

Items:
10 space suits
1 Message-sending radar
1 Rail Turret, uses PoPDarts
100 PoPDarts
13 Pieces of Iron
8 Pieces of Tin
3 Pieces of Platinum
Hazelnuts, for 8 plots
Coil Rifle Blueprints

Outside Buildings:
Rail Turret Emplacement, needs 1 crew on the spot to operate.
2 x 1 farm plot
Pipe to near SMA bunker, hooked up to water supply.

Farming:
5 strawberry plots (1) (i)
2 hazelnut plots (1) (o)

Spoiler: Nirur Torir (click to show/hide)

Torir Hegemony

The mounted drill continues to work wonderfully well, and the miner manning it can't stop talking about the speed at which the thing digs. The aluminium vein continues deeper into the ground. (1d100 = 89)

It is hard to get the amount of tiny bits together in one piece again. It is very hard, and several attempts turn out wrong. But in the late afternoon, they finally get the thing to work. It has no ammo left, though they now know how to make ammo belts. Mounting it on the buggy seems to work, though they won't be able it to finish it for today. Making more is possible, though it's not a simple gun and will require lots of time. (5d100 = 11,38,12,60,84) They needed a little scrap to replace some defective parts.

The craftsmen rebuld the electromotor they used before, and fit it into the car. It drives, after some tweaking and testing, and it drives well, but armor and weapons will have to wait. (3d100 = 19,91,34)

The guards see nothing out of the usual when they patrol around the bunker.

Three groups of miner return with copper, one with iron. One, however, doesn't return at all... (8d100 = 32,86,47,58,52,26,1,53)

Random event: at night, 5 figures hurry towards your camp. As your guards hold their guns and crossbows aimed at them, they raise their hands, and explain: they're farmers, hidden in their house when the raiders came. They fled, and in search for somewhere to hide came here. (Farmers will have a bonus to food output if you let them plant stuff. They're also good at heavy work, being almost as strong as most miners.)

Status:
2507 water
2307 food
18 scrap

Available troops:
45 miners (5 †)
20 scientists
20 crafters
8 traders (2 †)
5 farmers

Items:
9 space suits
2 9mm handguns
42 9mm cartridges, 12 ammo each
50 empty AA batteries
10 bows
22 arrows
1 electric buggy
11 pieces of iron
3 pieces of magnetic iron
1 working sixbarrel, no ammo
10 crossbows
100 wooden stakes
1 carwreck
8 pieces of aluminium

Outside Buildings:
3 x 4 plot

Spoiler: Current map (click to show/hide)

I added random events this turn. I won't do that every turn, only when I feel like it. You all got positive rolls on your random events this time, some more than others, but they can be everything. It might make the game less fair if someone has a screwed-up random event roll, though it certainly makes it more interesting.

[inteuniso]

Sweet! Composite materials are mine!
...And now for some RP

MILITARY ROSTER:
Sgt. Julian "Hard-Ass (Obviously not to his face)" Fitzgerald, Former Military Instructor of the 128th Mechanized Infantry Battalion, Miner
Pvt. Jun-Sing "JS" Rockwell, Former Martian Diplomat, Trader
Pvt. Kole "Train" Mannit, Former Bartender, Former High-school Football Player, Trader
Pvt. Salima "Sal" Christensen, Former HR Representative for Marksman Industries, Trader
Pvt. Jonathon "Jake" Johnson, Former Used Car Salesman, Trader (Broken Nose)
Pvt. Matthew "Doc" McGinnis, Former Nurse, Trader, Squad Medic
Pvt. Elizabeth "Liz" Matherson, Former Foundry-worker, Miner


Have the Former Military Instructor run 5 traders and a miner through basic calisthenics, weapon safety, and basic weapon firing courses. When targets are finished, begin instruction of firing at targets. Use the 2 Bolt-Action (which is what the manuals are, right?) Rifles and 2 pistols, and have them train on both weapons. This will take multiple turns.

Have 1 trader who is designated as squad medic run through basic anatomy and first aid courses with 3 scientists. This will also take multiple turns.

Have 50 miners dig out a 4x3 room at the end of the hallway. I would like it to be 3 columns and 4 rows.

Have 10 scientists begin to research in the lab.

Have 7 scientists run 5 craftsmen through a basic tutorial with the plastics fabricator. Have 10 traders gather wood to be used in it.

Have 5 crafters cook the giant wolf corpse in the kitchen. Use gloves.

Have the final 5 craftsmen build a basic pumping system from the underground stream.

Have 3 miners head south a bit and collect scrap. Go equipped with coil rifles and 2 pistols.

I'm pretty sure I used all my people. It was a pretty long-winded turn.

[Nirur Torir]

Eagle, why do you keep implying that we're going to have to kill each other at some point? It makes me nervous.

Torir Hegemony

5 farmers will plow more fields.

5 crafters will mount the machine gun on the buggy.

15 crafters will make machine gun ammo out of iron ore.

10 scientists will try to design an improved small electric motor.

10 scientists will research a way to build sensors on the bunker. I'd like to be able to detect raiders early enough for everybody to grab a gun.

6 miners will stand guard over the bunker, with one gun and five crossbows.

6 miners will search for the missing miner with one gun and five crossbows.

All remaining miners will dig outside for more ore. They'll take the normal bows with them. They will remain in groups, with at least two bows per group.

My diplomats will search for seeds. I'd like the kind that take a week to grow, but give more food overall.

[EagleV]

Eagle, why do you keep implying that we're going to have to kill each other at some point? It makes me nervous.

Do I? How so?

[Nirur Torir]

You keep mentioning that randomness might be ruining the balance. If we're working together for a common goal, a beneficial thing for one player is good for us all.

[EagleV]

You're right, I should stop repeating myself, but I just mean that, even if you work together, a player with less luck and resources might somehow feel useless. I'm certainly not trying to imply that you will have to face each other one day.

[inteuniso]

20 scientists will try to re-create a computer, with a fairly easy to use OS.

So... you want to make a computer... out of scrap metal... without any silicon at all, nor vacuum tubes, nor semiconductors, as well as an OS? I admit, this game has been unbalanced, but seriously dude, that sounds fucking impossible with the resources we have right now. I admit, some things that have happened have been a bit... unbelievable (Making another coil rifle out of scrap, Designing and building a trike with photovoltaic cells, etc.) but that can be fixed. We need a new rule.

For every complex piece of machinery/weaponry/building that isn't studied beforehand and is used/built, there should be a severe penalty to die-roll and severe consequences no matter what. Any new designs will need a blueprint, refined materials, and whatever else they would need.

Example: I have my crafters build a helicopter with a dual-rotor design.

Now not only should this fail pretty much automatically due to my crafters lack of knowledge about making a dual-rotor Helicopter, the fact is that it couldn't be made just out of scrap. I would have to design a motor that is light enough or powerful enough, use lightweight composite materials instead of scrap, and if I even built the thing, it would be crashed almost immediately due to my lack of electronics software or having a pilot.

I won't mind getting nerfed if it means that we can't build futuristic machines out of nothing. I was planning on building a Mechanical exoskeleton, but I would need access to a computer, a computer programmer, the ability to build hydraulics, use plastics and aluminum, and have a test pilot crazy enough to get into the death tra- invention.

This is just my idea. But I would prefer it we can't build lasers and atomic bombs out of old siding and pipes.

[x2yzh9]

Populus of Palus

Train 5 miners to be geologists by using 5 scientists.
Have 54 miners go out and scout the surrounding area, with pipes and 2 by 4s, etc. Even if it costs me some scrap to arm them.
Have 14 scientists plant all available seeds if there are any left
Have 14 crafters refine all available ore.