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Hugo_The_Dwarf

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Re: Inject Extract and Suck Blood
« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2010, 12:14:56 am »
Humans and elves not to mention orks but then again orks are crazy bastards, thanks so the max set for 1..6 like their basic 3..12 works? and more damblock make less damage, things are starting to make sense now
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Re: Inject Extract and Suck Blood
« Reply #16 on: January 05, 2010, 02:00:42 am »
More damblock doesn't reduce the damage dealt by the attacker - that wouldn't make any sense whatsoever. What it does do is reduce the damage taken by the defender.

Any values between 0 and the integer max (65535? I can't remember what damage uses, but it's stupidly high for this purpose) is a valid value. Nothing to do with multiples of three or any such. Or at least, it shouldn't have anything to do with them.
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Re: Inject Extract and Suck Blood
« Reply #17 on: January 05, 2010, 02:41:41 am »
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More damblock doesn't reduce the damage dealt by the attacker - that wouldn't make any sense whatsoever. What it does do is reduce the damage taken by the defender.
Actually it does, because the attack value is calculated on-the-fly using both the attacker's strengh, skill and other values and defender's damblock, size and other values, so it's a single formula and DAMBLOCK reduces the value of its result by the exact amount.
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Re: Inject Extract and Suck Blood
« Reply #18 on: January 05, 2010, 08:00:56 am »
What he means is that if you are attacking and you have high damblock, your damblock doesn't reduce the damage you do.
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Re: Inject Extract and Suck Blood
« Reply #19 on: January 05, 2010, 08:40:29 am »
Thanks for the major clarify, you guys are life savers. Now I know how those work, just trying to make my previous creature the screamer to show up more often so I can see if its more savage
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Re: Inject Extract and Suck Blood
« Reply #20 on: January 05, 2010, 09:08:37 am »
Quote from: wagawaga on January 05, 2010, 08:00:56 am
What he means is that if you are attacking and you have high damblock, your damblock doesn't reduce the damage you do.
Who would even think about it THIS way ::).
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Re: Inject Extract and Suck Blood
« Reply #21 on: January 05, 2010, 09:06:01 pm »
now to get back to the topic of origin (still havent found the Screamers I know they are out there somewhere) Suck_Blood just bleeds the target but has anyone fully tested my poison potentcy theory? I believe it is that unless [EXTRACT_PERMENT] makes it fast acting poison all the time. I havent had too much time to play test, thanks to homework and normal work
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Re: Inject Extract and Suck Blood
« Reply #22 on: January 05, 2010, 10:17:07 pm »
In the current version, poisons as far as I've experimented with them can only do random stuns/paralyzes, thereby making the victim lose a turn.  I think higher potency may mean an increased chance to inject the extract, since the length of the effect is determined by the other tags.

Next version, though, poisons will be much more interesting...
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Re: Inject Extract and Suck Blood
« Reply #23 on: January 05, 2010, 10:23:47 pm »
my one creature its INJECT_EXTRACT is 100:100 for its one attack (works like you said) but its other attacks have INJECT_EXTRACT 10:50 and the victum get poisoned just as fast, and the extract is injected first hit. im still thinking [EXTRACT_PERMENT] has a bigger hand in this then I tought
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Re: Inject Extract and Suck Blood
« Reply #24 on: January 06, 2010, 03:55:18 am »
EXTRACT_PERMANENT (not perment) means that it won't go away, that's all.  I think that the duration is hardcoded and may be based on toughness of the victim. I don't know what are the 50:100 numbers...
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Re: Inject Extract and Suck Blood
« Reply #25 on: January 06, 2010, 07:40:13 am »
Quote from: Deon on January 05, 2010, 09:08:37 am
Who would even think about it THIS way ::).

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(damage)+/-(size difference)-(damblock)

Quote from: Hugo_The_Dwarf on January 05, 2010, 12:14:56 am
and more damblock make less damage, things are starting to make sense now

I thought I had confused him.

The numbers in the SPECIALATTACK are thought to be chance of the extract being injected.
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Re: Inject Extract and Suck Blood
« Reply #26 on: January 06, 2010, 08:08:17 am »
I think that it is too, but I am not sure :).
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Re: Inject Extract and Suck Blood
« Reply #27 on: January 14, 2010, 12:16:38 am »
I've been having somw problems with another creature (still don't know what happened to the Screamers but they are out there) this creature is a larger version of the vermin Roach (i changed it) trying to get a larger vermin, but now whenever I see one it is instantly prone what have I done wrong?

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Re: Inject Extract and Suck Blood
« Reply #28 on: January 14, 2010, 07:27:45 am »
Your body is messed up.

There're 3 tips here:
1) Don't try to fit everything in one body, it's harder too see your faults this way or tweak it (especially if you want similar critters).
2) There should be an order of connection of bodyparts: ex. 1<-2<-3 where 2 connects to 1, 3 connects to 2 or 1 etc. You can't connect anything to something which was not called already (i.e. you try to connect antennae to a head which was not listed yet etc.).
3) use [ code ] to post your code, because forum makes [ LEFT ] into the funny thing you have.
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Re: Inject Extract and Suck Blood
« Reply #29 on: January 14, 2010, 09:26:33 pm »
Alright here is the reposted and organized body
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should this work? and how many nervous parts do I need? im hoping just to have the attena as the only required nervous part

P.S. I got your hint of "What the ****! this code is so messy I couldnt find a gaint in the middle of a large group of dwarves"
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