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shadowform

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Lutefisk!
« on: December 25, 2009, 05:41:18 pm »

We have lye, we have  fish...  why can't dwarves make Lutefisk?  It's preparation process consists of taking perfectly edible fish, making it inedible, and then trying to make it edible again.  Dwarven engineering applied to food!
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Re: Lutefisk!
« Reply #1 on: December 25, 2009, 05:44:12 pm »

Sounds good to me because of how ridiculous it is xD

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Re: Lutefisk!
« Reply #2 on: December 25, 2009, 07:55:47 pm »

Dwarven Lutefisk will of course somehow require magma to make.
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Re: Lutefisk!
« Reply #3 on: December 25, 2009, 09:57:17 pm »

but WHY would you want to make it inedible then edible again?
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Re: Lutefisk!
« Reply #4 on: December 25, 2009, 10:03:10 pm »

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It's preparation process consists of taking perfectly edible fish, making it inedible, and then trying to make it edible again.
:D :D :D

So... is Toady a Norseman... er... Norsetoad? I didn't know.

EDIT: Oh, right, gotta actually contribute to the thread  :P ::) . In my eyes it'd depend on the purpose of doing this (I forget why lutefisk was invented in the first place), and then consider whether it's a culturally suitable dish for the dwarves.
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Re: Lutefisk!
« Reply #5 on: December 25, 2009, 10:22:26 pm »

I think it enhances the taste or something.  Or else something else positive?  Maybe have it give a happy thought?
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Re: Lutefisk!
« Reply #6 on: December 25, 2009, 10:27:29 pm »

IIRC it may have first been done as a method of preservation-- the lye repels animals, etc. Nobody really knows why it was invented, though.
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« Reply #7 on: December 25, 2009, 10:33:32 pm »

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Lutefisk is a traditional dish of the Nordic countries made from stockfish (air-dried whitefish) or dried/salted whitefish (klippfisk) and soda lye (lut). Its name literally means "lye fish", because it is made using caustic lye soda derived from potash minerals.

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The origins of lutefisk a matter of debate. Popular and fanciful accounts mention a fish accidentally dropped in a bucket containing lye, and due to poverty, the fish still had to be eaten. Other stories discuss fires of various kinds, because ashes of wood combined with water will create lye such as the drying racks for stockfish caught fire, followed by days of rain, and then the fish, being too valuable to throw away even in this condition, was picked from the ashes, cleaned, prepared, and eaten. Yet further accounts claim that the practice originated as a way of storing and preserving fish meat outdoors, taking advantage of the natural cold, with the lye dissuading wild animals from eating the meat; boiling would be employed to reduce the lye concentration for human consumption

And apparently lutefish can taste crap or good.
prehaps have something in the dwarfs personality (prehaps not shown) that makes it think that it taste freaking wonderfull or crap as hell.

Basically taking a gamble if your dwarfs like it or not.
If they do like it it could give them a massive happiness boost.
if they hate it it could give them quite a big neggative boost. (THE FOOD THAT CAUSES TANTRUM SPIRALS!)
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Re: Lutefisk!
« Reply #8 on: December 25, 2009, 10:50:58 pm »

if they hate it it could give them quite a big neggative boost. (THE FOOD THAT CAUSES TANTRUM SPIRALS!)
Only if it's the only option.  Dwarves already choose what they prefer.
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Re: Lutefisk!
« Reply #9 on: December 25, 2009, 11:35:23 pm »

if they hate it it could give them quite a big neggative boost. (THE FOOD THAT CAUSES TANTRUM SPIRALS!)
Only if it's the only option.  Dwarves already choose what they prefer.

Lutefisk for everyone then!

Also, make sure your meeting zone is right next to your armory, and have it filled with masterwork adamantine axes.

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Re: Lutefisk!
« Reply #10 on: December 26, 2009, 12:42:16 am »

You know, I was sitting here utterly mystified, wondering how anyone could come up with something as strange and unreal as lye fish...

then I remembered that the Icelanders eat rotten shark.
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Re: Lutefisk!
« Reply #11 on: December 26, 2009, 12:52:50 am »

To be somewhat serious, once the cooking system gets overhauled you should probably be able to add the ability to use lye as a cooking ingredient.

Perhaps there should be some way to say "this can be used in food preparation, but its value as an ingredient is much lower than its value for its normally-intended purpose" though. Otherwise you might end up with kings who insist on eating nothing but candied soap.
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Re: Lutefisk!
« Reply #12 on: December 26, 2009, 01:02:37 am »

Since lutefisk can't by any stretch of the imagination be construed as an (safely) edible substance, it sghould be made in the craftdwarf's workshop, or alchemist's lab. If not you end up with the -lye roast-, because nothing says good eating like ingesting fish fermented covered in heavily processed corrosive plant matter.
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« Reply #13 on: December 26, 2009, 01:03:30 am »

alchemists lab.
The lab needs more uses.
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« Reply #14 on: December 26, 2009, 01:38:25 am »

An idea for a dwarvish spin on the lutefisk concept -- just dump the lye wholesale in streams and harvest the dead carp.

The Canadian National railway has, in real life, demonstrated the viability of this concept applied to a broad spectrum of aquatic life:

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2007/08/03/bc-cnrail.html

Of course, to pull it off in game, solubility of objects in water, and "mine carts" would be needed....

As a bonus, think of how angry it will make the elves.  They don't even like it when you make potash, let alone use it like that.
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